[andycee]

Hi all,

I have a Toshiba DVD player with RCA outs (no SCART), and want to run this through my HUMAX VCR SCART in to allow recording of DVDs on the Hummy.

Tried using the RCA>SCART lead that works fine with my TV, but the HUMAX won't accept the signal - on either S/Video or CVBS settings.

Any clues as to why this won't work ??

cheers guys

[keithatrochdale]

The Hummy will only record from it's own two tuners.

[andycee]

Arr !

So the HUMAX only passes through the signal from the SCART in socket ??

There is still an issue with the configuration I have, since with the DVD player connected to this SCART socket, when I press the Source button to switch to it, the HUMAX box flicks to a blank screen, then returns to the Freeview picture.

[scuffer]

why would you still connect the dvd player to the humax ?

[Max Demian]

Originally Posted by andycee

There is still an issue with the configuration I have, since with the DVD player connected to this SCART socket, when I press the Source button to switch to it, the HUMAX box flicks to a blank screen, then returns to the Freeview picture.

Why don't you switch the Humax to standby when you are watching DVDs?

[andycee]

Originally Posted by scuffer

why would you still connect the dvd player to the humax ?

Well, so I can just switch over to watching a DVD from the HUMAX remote. I don't even use the TV remote anymore as everything is done on the Hummy.

[andycee]

Originally Posted by Max Demian

Why don't you switch the Humax to standby when you are watching DVDs?

I think you're meaning to make the TV switch over to another source ? Turning off the Humax when you're not watching it is not an option. The EPG takes forever to populate !

[andycee]

I'm actually being nosey too - if its not going to record from the SCART in, then I'd like to see it not working with my own eyes rather than relying on someone simply saying "The Hummy will only record from it's own two tuners"

[keithatrochdale]

Originally Posted by andycee

I'm actually being nosey too - if its not going to record from the SCART in, then I'd like to see it not working with my own eyes rather than relying on someone simply saying "The Hummy will only record from it's own two tuners"

Your first post said;

Hi all,

I have a Toshiba DVD player with RCA outs (no SCART), and want to run this through my HUMAX VCR SCART in to allow recording of DVDs on the Hummy.

Tried using the RCA>SCART lead that works fine with my TV, but the HUMAX won't accept the signal - on either S/Video or CVBS settings.

Any clues as to why this won't work ??

cheers guys



Why ask if you are not going to take any notice?

[Catbed]

Originally Posted by andycee

I'm actually being nosey too - if its not going to record from the SCART in, then I'd like to see it not working with my own eyes rather than relying on someone simply saying "The Hummy will only record from it's own two tuners"

But you've already seen it not working.

Anyway, I'm just curious as to why anyone would want to transfer DVDs TO the Humax ...

[andycee]

Originally Posted by keithatrochdale

Why ask if you are not going to take any notice?

Hi Keith,

Thanks for your comment - I do value your advice, but I also don't believe everything I read in forums.

Even I can't record in this way, why won't it accept the signal from the player ???

[andycee]

Originally Posted by Catbed

But you've already seen it not working.

Anyway, I'm just curious as to why anyone would want to transfer DVDs TO the Humax ...

Sigh...The part that I HAVE seen working is the fact that the HUMAX won't accept a signal from my DVD player. The part that I would like to see NOT working (to confirm what Keith has said) is that it won't record from ext. source once I actually have a signal to record in the first place !

I get loaned lots of DVDs that I don't want to watch there and then. It would just be nice to be able to watch them on the Humax at a later date.

[keithatrochdale]

Originally Posted by andycee

Hi Keith,

Thanks for your comment - I do value your advice, but I also don't believe everything I read in forums.

Even I can't record in this way, why won't it accept the signal from the player ???

This exact same question has been asked many, many times, both on here and on http://www.hummy.org.uk/

but if you want to invent the wheel again, go ahead.

[Klopek]

Originally Posted by andycee

I get loaned lots of DVDs that I don't want to watch there and then. It would just be nice to be able to watch them on the Humax at a later date.

Rip them to your PC (DVD Decrypter or DVD-Shrink etc + AnyDVD) and then utilise the TV-out. You really wanted to record each one in real-time onto the Humax?

As for your DVD player - I'm not sure. It could perhaps be something to do with the RCA>Scart block? I know for sure that the 9200T can pass-through a crisp RGB picture from whatever source you may have connected to the VCR scart socket. I have used the box regularly with both a DVD player and a Sky box (sometimes daisy-chained too) - all of these have worked fine and the devices can be cycled using the source button, as you stated.

Perhaps you should try connecting a different piece of equipment to the VCR scart of the Humax, just to check that it is indeed working at all?

Also, although somewhat pointless stating again, the 9200T is incapable of recording from external sources.

[nadiasantos]

Originally Posted by andycee

I'm actually being nosey too - if its not going to record from the SCART in, then I'd like to see it not working with my own eyes rather than relying on someone simply saying "The Hummy will only record from it's own two tuners"

Well here's a second post informing you that the Humax ,like all dedicated PVR's will only record from its inbuilt tuners.

Although it can record JPEG's and MP3 from its USB ports

[nadiasantos]

Originally Posted by andycee

Sigh...The part that I HAVE seen working is the fact that the HUMAX won't accept a signal from my DVD player. The part that I would like to see NOT working (to confirm what Keith has said) is that it won't record from ext. source once I actually have a signal to record in the first place !

I get loaned lots of DVDs that I don't want to watch there and then. It would just be nice to be able to watch them on the Humax at a later date.

Well you should have bought a proper HDD/DVDR in the first place .

They will all accept external inputs from other sources.
Thats assuming you remove the copy protection from any commercial dvd's you want to copy

[andycee]

Cheers guys, sorry Keith (!)

Originally Posted by Klopek

As for your DVD player - I'm not sure. It could perhaps be something to do with the RCA>Scart block? I know for sure that the 9200T can pass-through a crisp RGB picture from whatever source you may have connected to the VCR scart socket.

I just wondered if the lack of an RGB input option in the Prefs. page was my issue. VCR Scart only has options for CVBS or S-Video.

Ahh well anyway, back to the drawing board.

[Klopek]

Originally Posted by andycee

Cheers guys, sorry Keith (!)




I just wondered if the lack of an RGB input option in the Prefs. page was my issue. VCR Scart only has options for CVBS or S-Video.

Ahh well anyway, back to the drawing board.

Remember the CVBS and S-video selection is only for the Humax's VCR scart OUTPUT - as an input the device seems to accept anything.

[keithatrochdale]

Originally Posted by andycee

Cheers guys, sorry Keith (!)

No probs, just trying to help.

[mcin]

Sorry if I'm repeating others but thought I would quickly summarise to stop others getting lost

* The Humax cannot record from external sources, only from its own tuners
* The Humax can receive an input from another source (DVD player, video etc) via the VCR scart and this will display on the TV.
* The Humax and other source can be switched between by using the 'Source' button under the flap
*The source button does not function correctly in software 1.0.08, to resolve this issue either upgrade to .10 software or put the box into standby when wishing to view the external source
*The Humax can accept a RGB signal and will throughput it no bother!

[Martin Liddle]

Originally Posted by andycee

Even I can't record in this way, why won't it accept the signal from the player ???

It records the digital broadcast stream direct to disk without modofication; if it isn't in that format it simply won't work. You could build a device to do it but it would need a lot more hardware and hence would be significantly more expensive.

[gadgetmind]

Originally Posted by andycee

Cheers guys, sorry Keith (!)

I just wondered if the lack of an RGB input option in the Prefs. page was my issue. VCR Scart only has options for CVBS or S-Video.

Ahh well anyway, back to the drawing board.

The Humax will pass composite, s-video or RGB through from its VCR scart to the TV scart. I have used it in all modes and RGB definitely works.

Caveats -
1) The device connected to the VCR scart *must* generate pin-8 switching. The Humax will *not* switch to the VCR scart unless this signal is present.
2) The function of the input button on the Humax remote (I think that's what it's called - I use other remotes!) has changed from firmware version to firmware version.

I actually have a scart auto-switch connected to the Humax VCR scart and all of my sources cause the Humax to switch to the device and route the signal (including RGB) through with no problems.

The Humax will *not* record from a scart input as it has no way to encode the video. All it can record is the MPEG2 compressed DVB-T data stream. While it can then also decode this stream, it cannot encode one.

I hope this is all clear.

Ian