• TV
  • MOVIES
  • MUSIC
  • SHOWBIZ
  • SOAPS
  • GAMING
  • TECH
  • FORUMS
  • Follow
    • Follow
    • facebook
    • twitter
    • google+
    • instagram
    • youtube
Hearst Corporation
  • TV
  • MOVIES
  • MUSIC
  • SHOWBIZ
  • SOAPS
  • GAMING
  • TECH
  • FORUMS
Forums
  • Register
  • Login
  • Forums
  • Gadgets
  • TV and Home Entertainment Technology
NTSC Wii (Component) to RGB Scart?
<<
<
1 of 2
>>
>
the_gaffer
12-05-2007
Hi all,

I'm thinking of buying an NTSC Wii that can output both component and composite.
I have composite on my TV but it's not as good as RGB Scart and I believe that the US equivalent is component.

So basically, I'm wondering if an adaptor exists where I can plug the Wii's component cables into an adaptor, that I could then plug into the RGB scart on my TV.

Also, am I right in believing that when I buy a HDTV, they have component-in directly?

Thanks,

gaffer
Chris Simon
12-05-2007
Originally Posted by the_gaffer:
“So basically, I'm wondering if an adaptor exists where I can plug the Wii's component cables into an adaptor, that I could then plug into the RGB scart on my TV.”

http://www.keene.co.uk/electronics/m...hp?mycode=APT2

It will cope with NTSC but I don't think it converts to PAL so you'd have to make sure your TV can display NTSC. You could email Keene to clarify.
Nigel Goodwin
12-05-2007
Originally Posted by Chris Simon:
“http://www.keene.co.uk/electronics/m...hp?mycode=APT2

It will cope with NTSC but I don't think it converts to PAL so you'd have to make sure your TV can display NTSC. You could email Keene to clarify.”

Expensive though isn't it?, considering Component isn't that far away from RGB, it's only very slightly encoded (and RGB isn't encoded at all).
Chris Simon
13-05-2007
Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin:
“Expensive though isn't it?”

It certainly is, but I don't think there's anything cheaper! No other solution though if you've only got component out and RGB in. Other than composite of course...
the_gaffer
13-05-2007
Wow, that's expensive!

Wouldn't something like this work:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...C=SO&U=strat15

I've also found component (3 plugs) to Scart RGB cables but what I would then need is a component in out adaptor.

Something like this:
http://www.atlona.com/product.php?pr...cat=274&page=1

Can anyone help for the HD question?

gaffer
the_gaffer
13-05-2007
Originally Posted by Chris Simon:
“It certainly is, but I don't think there's anything cheaper! No other solution though if you've only got component out and RGB in. Other than composite of course...”


I've got S-Video too.

gaffer
the_gaffer
13-05-2007
Or even this:?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RGB-COMPONENT-...QQcmdZViewItem


gaffer
niall campbell
13-05-2007
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/High-Quality-C...QQcmdZViewItem

try that
the_gaffer
13-05-2007
But I don't have component...just Scart...

gaffer
GratingCheese
13-05-2007
Originally Posted by the_gaffer:
“But I don't have component...just Scart...

gaffer”

Why not just use a SCART cable?
the_gaffer
13-05-2007
Originally Posted by GratingCheese:
“Why not just use a SCART cable?”

Because, apparently, the NTSC US Wii doesn't work with the PAL Scart cable.

gaffer
GratingCheese
13-05-2007
Originally Posted by the_gaffer:
“Because, apparently, the NTSC US Wii doesn't work with the PAL Scart cable.

gaffer”

I'm surprised at that as SCART can carry NTSC and PAL no problem.
Chris Simon
13-05-2007
Originally Posted by the_gaffer:
“Wow, that's expensive!

Wouldn't something like this work:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...C=SO&U=strat15”

That seems to be converting composite video into component?

Quote:
“I've also found component (3 plugs) to Scart RGB cables but what I would then need is a component in out adaptor.

Something like this:
http://www.atlona.com/product.php?pr...cat=274&page=1”

I think these are adaptors, not converters. They simply allow component cables to be connected via SCART. If your TV doesn't support component video via SCART then it won't work - it needs to be converted into RGB.
Chris Simon
13-05-2007
Originally Posted by GratingCheese:
“I'm surprised at that as SCART can carry NTSC and PAL no problem.”

I suspect it's more like the US Wii can't output RGB, as that's a European standard. Can the UK Wii output RGB? If so, why not just buy a UK one!
the_gaffer
13-05-2007
Originally Posted by Chris Simon:
“I suspect it's more like the US Wii can't output RGB, as that's a European standard. Can the UK Wii output RGB? If so, why not just buy a UK one!”

The US one gets more games, quicker and cheaper.
The virtual console games run quicker too.

gaffer
meltcity
13-05-2007
Originally Posted by the_gaffer:
“I've got S-Video too.

gaffer”

There's your answer: buy a Wii S-VIDEO cable.

It may not be quite as good as RGB, but using an external box to converting component to RGB may degrade the video quality - plus many TVs process RGB by first converting it to S-VIDEO first, in which case there would be no difference at all between the S-VIDEO and RGB output.
GratingCheese
13-05-2007
Originally Posted by meltcity:
“There's your answer: buy a Wii S-VIDEO cable.

It may not be quite as good as RGB, but using an external box to converting component to RGB may degrade the video quality - plus many TVs process RGB by first converting it to S-VIDEO first, in which case there would be no difference at all between the S-VIDEO and RGB output.”

But as S-video would still have some NTSC encoding, the TV would have to be able to decode an NTSC signal using S-video.
the_gaffer
13-05-2007
Originally Posted by GratingCheese:
“But as S-video would still have some NTSC encoding, the TV would have to be able to decode an NTSC signal using S-video.”

I watch R1 DVDs without a problem, so the TV can accept an NTSC source.

gaffer
the_gaffer
13-05-2007
Originally Posted by meltcity:
“There's your answer: buy a Wii S-VIDEO cable.

It may not be quite as good as RGB, but using an external box to converting component to RGB may degrade the video quality - plus many TVs process RGB by first converting it to S-VIDEO first, in which case there would be no difference at all between the S-VIDEO and RGB output.”

So, you are saying that there is no difference between RGB Scart and S-video?

gaffer
GratingCheese
13-05-2007
Originally Posted by the_gaffer:
“I watch R1 DVDs without a problem, so the TV can accept an NTSC source.

gaffer”

Which connection do you watch them with?
the_gaffer
13-05-2007
Originally Posted by GratingCheese:
“Which connection do you watch them with?”

My Panasonic DVD player has RGB Scart out and can play R1 DVDs.

It also has Component OUT, but sadly, not IN...

gaffer
GratingCheese
13-05-2007
Originally Posted by the_gaffer:
“My Panasonic DVD player has RGB Scart out and can play R1 DVDs.

It also has Component OUT, but sadly, not IN...

gaffer”

The reason NTSC works over RGB and component is because all NTSC colour coding is removed.

That's not the case with S-video in which crominance, carried along one wire goes through modulation to calculate the individual colours.
the_gaffer
13-05-2007
Originally Posted by GratingCheese:
“The reason NTSC works over RGB and component is because all NTSC colour coding is removed.

That's not the case with S-video in which crominance, carried along one wire goes through modulation to calculate the individual colours.”

So, what does that mean?

gaffer
GratingCheese
13-05-2007
Originally Posted by the_gaffer:
“So, what does that mean?

gaffer”

It means that in S-video, one wire has two of the three colours "mixed" in together. If the signal is being sent is from an NTSC source, these "mixed" colours are encoded in the NTSC format so the TV must be able to decode NTSC (unlikely with most PAL TVs.)

RGB SCART sends red, green and blue separately so there's no decoding that needs to be performed by the TV, which is why NTSC works over RGB on PAL TVs but not over S-video.
the_gaffer
13-05-2007
Right, but my idea was to connect the Wii to the Panasonic DVD player's S-video in and then through RGB Scart out to the TV.

How inferior would that be to a direct RGB scart or component connection, in terms of PQ?

gaffer
<<
<
1 of 2
>>
>
VIEW DESKTOP SITE TOP

JOIN US HERE

  • Facebook
  • Twitter

Hearst Corporation

Hearst Corporation

DIGITAL SPY, PART OF THE HEARST UK ENTERTAINMENT NETWORK

© 2015 Hearst Magazines UK is the trading name of the National Magazine Company Ltd, 72 Broadwick Street, London, W1F 9EP. Registered in England 112955. All rights reserved.

  • Terms & Conditions
  • Privacy Policy
  • Cookie Policy
  • Complaints
  • Site Map