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Week 6 - Any Dream Will Do: Least Favourite Joseph
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Katie841
14-05-2007
Originally Posted by Jocko Homo:
“I personally never really liked Connie Fisher, but recognised she was very capable for the part, I guess thats one of the problems about casting the show on reality TV though.

Also the reason why i said the thing about attacking, is that I know that there are a lot of Lee fans here, and it might feel to non-Lee fans they are being pushed out. Call me an ole softy but everyone should be able to give their opinions... no matter how wrong they are ”

Exactly. Don't get me wrong, I can see that Lee would be good for the part (I honestly think it will be him and Daniel in the final anyway), and I can see he is confident and professional and more than capable for the role (again, despite what some others may think), however I just can't warm to the guy and I have found him arrogant right from the beginning.

It's fair enough. I totally understand why Lee's fans are wanting to stick up for him and get their opinions across too, that's what these forums are made for after all. LOL, whatever you say...
Tanith Panic
14-05-2007
I was quite relieved when Lee mentioned that he'd cried after the show the previous week - I'd not seen many signs of his having feelings before then. A lot of posters on the "Dress Circle" board know him and say he is a nice guy. Who knows? I'd love him to win....


As for my least favourite, that has to be Keith. To me he's so bland you could spread him on bread. And he holds no attraction for me whatsoever.
jcello
14-05-2007
Originally Posted by Katie841:
“LOL, whatever you say... ”

Quite right - everyone is entitled to my own opinion.
Gutted Girl
14-05-2007
Lewis sorry he blew the lyrics in two songs last week, just not good enough.
Stunty
14-05-2007
Lewis
Italiangirl
14-05-2007
Originally Posted by jcello:
“Thinking about leaving and threatening to leave are two entirely different matters. I'd be shocked if Daniel doesn't feel the same way after the entirely unfair comments he got from Zoe himself.”

As far as we know, there have been no crying
scenes and thoughts of leaving from Daniel!

I was surprised at Lee because I would have thought, with his experience, he would have been able to deal with citicism better than that. (And he will have to deal with it better if he becomes Joseph).

I repeat again that I thought the cricism was unfair. This is not a bash Lee post, but surely we are allowed to say what we think about him!
Snippy
14-05-2007
Originally Posted by Italiangirl:
“As far as we know, there have been no crying
scenes and thoughts of leaving from Daniel!

I was surprised at Lee because I would have thought, with his experience, he would have been able to deal with citicism better than that. (And he will have to deal with it better if he becomes Joseph).

I repeat again that I thought the cricism was unfair. This is not a bash Lee post, but surely we are allowed to say what we think about him!”

Of course you are . I don't know the facts, none of us do. I am quite sure that in his career Lee will have had critism before, part and parcel of the business. I wonder was it more a crisis of confidence and the fact he couldn't rely on his voice made him question his part in the show - not the comments necessarily.
Italiangirl
14-05-2007
Originally Posted by Snippy:
“Of course you are . I don't know the facts, none of us do. I am quite sure that in his career Lee will have had critism before, part and parcel of the business. I wonder was it more a crisis of confidence and the fact he couldn't rely on his voice made him question his part in the show - not the comments necessarily.”


Good point.
Jeanie
14-05-2007
Keith - looks totally wrong - far too weedy and certainly not handsome enough. Why on earth would his brothers envy him? Just cannot see him being a commanding leading man.

Could never play an older man convincingly - even if he does have a side parting.

Would make a great Benjamin though.
nats18
14-05-2007
My least fave is Lewis. All the rest seem to improve as the weeks go on. Lewis seems the exact same as he did in week 1.
choochoo
14-05-2007
I thought Daniel was awful this week
Chilli Dragon
14-05-2007
Ben...just nothing there.
haggy-me
14-05-2007
At the moment, Daniel.

**runs and hides**
NoahsAark
14-05-2007
Originally Posted by haggy-me:
“At the moment, Daniel.

**runs and hides**”

No need to hide - I think your comment just proves that the song choice is so vital in this ... Daniel may have lost some 'floating votes' because others have been given songs that have enabled them to shine.

I still think he's great - I hope that he's given a better song this week and we can get back to the nice smiley Daniel that we all (and I speak for the Dan fans!) know and love
Gellymiss
14-05-2007
Originally Posted by NoahsAark:
“No need to hide - I think your comment just proves that the song choice is so vital in this ... Daniel may have lost some 'floating votes' because others have been given songs that have enabled them to shine.

I still think he's great - I hope that he's given a better song this week and we can get back to the nice smiley Daniel that we all (and I speak for the Dan fans!) know and love ”

He does not need smiley. We've seen that for weeks in a row. What he needs is a sad, slow ballad where he can show some sadness and emotion - or no one will ever be able to believe he can pull off singing Close Every Door which requires that.
Chris612
14-05-2007
Originally Posted by Jocko Homo:
“I guess we will just have to agree to disagree, re Lee. Personally I don't see it at all but there you go. I understand where you are getting at though, I personally never really liked Connie Fisher, but recognised she was very capable for the part, I guess thats one of the problems about casting the show on reality TV though.

Also the reason why i said the thing about attacking, is that I know that there are a lot of Lee fans here, and it might feel to non-Lee fans they are being pushed out. Call me an ole softy but everyone should be able to give their opinions... no matter how wrong they are ”

Totally agree, personally i think Lee is a jerk but the wife likes him. I don't hold that against her, i just hide the phone after voting for Daniel.
NoahsAark
14-05-2007
Originally Posted by Gellymiss:
“He does not need smiley. We've seen that for weeks in a row. What he needs is a sad, slow ballad where he can show some sadness and emotion - or no one will ever be able to believe he can pull off singing Close Every Door which requires that.”

Hands up - my reply sounded like I wanted the smiley Daniel back with a smiley smiley song - I agree an emotional ballad is what is required.

What I did mean is that I don't think Daniel has to prove any more that he can do 'tough, mean and moody' ....

I know what I mean that I'm trying to say - it's just coming out as gibberish
lilhunni_Jo
14-05-2007
Ben. He is getting really arrogant...How funny was ALWs comment though?!
jaybs
14-05-2007
Lee - I just can't warm to the guy! - he has some smug areas of attitude and for someone with his experience throwing away his dummy was totally out of order - still don't like his hair, it looks false! as bad as who was it - Mr Perm footballer Kevin Keegan

Would love to see a final of Daniel and Ben!
JoJo4
14-05-2007
I can't see Lewis or Keith as Joseph on stage - they have no presence or command in the role.

I'm afraid that Daniel on Saturday - when he was supposed to be putting more ooomph into the performance - was awful! I usually love his singing, but I can't see him as Joseph either.

Strangely, for me, Craig has come on in leaps and bounds lately although I wasn't struck at the beginning.

It has to be about far more than just the voice, and for that reason Lewis, Keith and Daniel don't do it for me. I haven't really warmed to Lee as an individual, but he has everything it takes for this particular role.

They're all competent to varying degrees, but they aren't all Joseph
NoahsAark
14-05-2007
Originally Posted by JoJo4:
“I can't see Lewis or Keith as Joseph on stage - they have no presence or command in the role.

I'm afraid that Daniel on Saturday - when he was supposed to be putting more ooomph into the performance - was awful! I usually love his singing, but I can't see him as Joseph either.

Strangely, for me, Craig has come on in leaps and bounds lately although I wasn't struck at the beginning.

It has to be about far more than just the voice, and for that reason Lewis, Keith and Daniel don't do it for me. I haven't really warmed to Lee as an individual, but he has everything it takes for this particular role.

They're all competent to varying degrees, but they aren't all Joseph”

Until they sing the same song, from Joseph, with a bit of the acting thrown in with it, it's very hard to say who fits the Joseph role the best.

I think Lee and Daniel with their previous experience would pull it off easily - I think Craig may be a surprise - but I'm not sure about the others ... Lewis, Keith and Ben seem too wrong for it ... maybe it's their age ... maybe just their stage presence.

And song choice plays such a big part - get a duff song (lets face it a lot aren't liking the mean and moody Daniel) compared to a nice slushy ballad (Keith anyone) and it changes peoples opinions.
Snippy
14-05-2007
Originally Posted by NoahsAark:
“Until they sing the same song, from Joseph, with a bit of the acting thrown in with it, it's very hard to say who fits the Joseph role the best.

I think Lee and Daniel with their previous experience would pull it off easily - I think Craig may be a surprise - but I'm not sure about the others ... Lewis, Keith and Ben seem too wrong for it ... maybe it's their age ... maybe just their stage presence.

And song choice plays such a big part - get a duff song (lets face it a lot aren't liking the mean and moody Daniel) compared to a nice slushy ballad (Keith anyone) and it changes peoples opinions.”

Noah - you are correct song choice is everything.
coda
14-05-2007
I don't like Ben. He's the 'Darius Denesh' of Joseph.

He's too smug (apart from when he's trying to do the whole 'puppy-dog' look when he's being critiqued). And someone needs to tell him that shouting "C'MON!" and punching the air everytime he gets through is very aggressive-looking. This ain't a footie match...
Gillypoots
14-05-2007
Originally Posted by JoJo4:
“I can't see Lewis or Keith as Joseph on stage - they have no presence or command in the role.

I'm afraid that Daniel on Saturday - when he was supposed to be putting more ooomph into the performance - was awful! I usually love his singing, but I can't see him as Joseph either.

Strangely, for me, Craig has come on in leaps and bounds lately although I wasn't struck at the beginning.

It has to be about far more than just the voice, and for that reason Lewis, Keith and Daniel don't do it for me. I haven't really warmed to Lee as an individual, but he has everything it takes for this particular role.

They're all competent to varying degrees, but they aren't all Joseph”

Whilst I see your point with regard to Lewis, I have to say that the opposite is true of Keith for me.

Lewis lacks spontaniety for me. He is does everything almost by numbers. You can almost see his mind ticking over as to what his next move is as he's performing. He's spent so many years at Stage School he's almost institutionalised!

Keith on the other hand is fresh and natural with a stunning voice. I'm not looking for him to be Joseph, but I do hope he reaches the final and gives the eventual winner a run for his money........which I think he will!
jaybs
14-05-2007
Originally Posted by coda:
“I don't like Ben. He's the 'Darius Denesh' of Joseph. This ain't a footie match...”


I never liked Darius, but as I was reminded last week last week by someone within the industry, he is still doing well while others have disappeared!

Ben has lots to offer and is still young, a good manager will turn him around, best John Barrowman was the same at his age.
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