wireless speakers

sam bailie · 17-05-2007, 20:57

Hi
Do sony manufacture a home threater system with wire less speakers (my wife agrees to have surround sound system ...but hates speaker cables everywhere)..if so can you tell me the model number and approx., price please
Regards Sam

Nigel Goodwin · 17-05-2007, 22:28

No idea what the model numbers are, but I've seen some where the rear speakers are wireless, but require a mains connection to them (obviously) and a wire connecting them together. All things considered it's not a great deal easier than normal!.

sam bailie · 18-05-2007, 00:01

thnx..what SONY home threater system is recommended? price band between £200--£400 ?

Nigel Goodwin · 18-05-2007, 09:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by sam bailie

thnx..what SONY home threater system is recommended? price band between £200--£400 ?

Personally I've no interest in them, and find them a pain in the bum!

You best option is to go and have a look in the shops and see which you like, some even come with stands for the speakers!.

sam bailie · 18-05-2007, 15:05

That was not my question...if you were to answer EVERY QUESTION...with a RUDE reply.....such as I,M NOT INTERESTED or even suggest they just run off to the shops...there would very soon be many ANGRY people...THANKS for NOTHING

Nigel Goodwin · 18-05-2007, 15:08

I think the only rude person here is you! - I carried on and gave you my response to your follow up question - I thought it only polite to explain why I couldn't make a suggestion.

Perhaps you ought to attend politeness and anger management courses!.

chrisjr · 18-05-2007, 15:19

I very much doubt you will find any truely wire less speakers. The speakers will require some form of amplification built in to drive them. So that is going to mean mains power or a battery pack - one shudders to think how big that will have to be to give you half decent power and time between battery changes.

If they are mains powered then you are going to have wires running around the place anyway so may as well have conventional speakers powered by the amp.

There is no way at all to drive enirely passive speakeres wirelessly. By passive I mean speakers with no amplification or any other electronics requiring an independent power source.

sam bailie · 18-05-2007, 18:23

Your comments were both very helpful and polite and for that i really thank you......The opposite in fact of that chap GOODWIN who was very very RUDE...regards Sam

campioni06 · 21-05-2007, 16:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by sam bailie

Your comments were both very helpful and polite and for that i really thank you......The opposite in fact of that chap GOODWIN who was very very RUDE...regards Sam

You're way out of line Sam - just have a look at how many posts Nigel has made, and he's never been rude to anyone. Like everyone else on here he just tries to help the lesser tehcnically minded of us and gives his honest opinion.

beachbum · 22-05-2007, 20:49

At the risk of being accused of rudeness, I too would say that surround sound is a p.i.t.a.

If you look at the diagrams that come with them they always show a chair slap bang in the middle of the room, directly in frnt of the TV with four speakers placed symetrically around it. And to achieve surround sound, that is exactly what you need. Who lives like this apart from a few lucky individuals with huge sparsely furnished apartments?

I think surround sound will soon go the same way as "quadraphonic sound"........ a system for filling our rooms with wires which was launched in the seventies as the successor to stereo. It died a death.

broadz · 23-05-2007, 11:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by beachbum

At the risk of being accused of rudeness, I too would say that surround sound is a p.i.t.a.

If you look at the diagrams that come with them they always show a chair slap bang in the middle of the room, directly in frnt of the TV with four speakers placed symetrically around it. And to achieve surround sound, that is exactly what you need. Who lives like this apart from a few lucky individuals with huge sparsely furnished apartments?

I think surround sound will soon go the same way as "quadraphonic sound"........ a system for filling our rooms with wires which was launched in the seventies as the successor to stereo. It died a death.

Oi. I don't live in a huge, sparsely furnished apartment. But, I've achieved a decent surround sound setup in the last four houses I've lived in. TV against the wall (centre of the wall, not tucked in a corner). Front left and right speakers in the two corners of the room facing inwards from the TV wall.
Sub-woofer just to the left or right of the TV cabinet. Centre speaker mounted immediately above, or immediately below, TV. Surround sound speakers wall-mounted in the two opposite corners of the room to the two front speakers. Settee positioned against the back wall, between the two rear speakers, facing the TV. Other living room chairs positioned against the two side walls, diagonally facing the television. All speakers are cabled - it's amazing how you can hide speaker wire underneath carpets and laminated flooring, or you can paint them and pin them to skirting boards, so that they are practically invisible.

I do agree that a decent surround sound set-up is difficult to achieve when people tuck their TV into a corner. I know lots of people who've tried, but you end up with the two front speakers being very close to each other either side of the TV, or massively wide apart but not equidistant from the television, and the two surround speakers not really being behind the seating arrangement. Luckily I've never had to do that. I'd hate having to go back to a stereo only AV setup.

Dan Sette · 23-05-2007, 12:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by beachbum

I think surround sound will soon go the same way as "quadraphonic sound"........ a system for filling our rooms with wires which was launched in the seventies as the successor to stereo. It died a death.

Ok. Again at the risk of rudeness.

You are totally wrong.

Suuround sound has been readily available to everyone since the late 1980's when Yamaha marketed a very succesful souround sound amp. It has gone from strength to strength since then, really taking off with the availability of cheap DVD players.

Nowadays the things sell in millions and there are numerous magazines and websites dedicated to it. People buy into Sky+ and Sky HD to get it, not to mention cable providers.

You don't need a chair in the middle of a room to "get it" although those that spend many thousands of pounds on it will.

Those who only want to spend £200 probably won't, they'll be happy with some sound from the rear speakers. Hardly a format that is "dead"

Quadraphonic didn't take off for more reasons than you espouse.

It was phenomenally expensive, required very speciallist equipment and there were three competing formats.

To the OP. Sony do make one (although I understand Panasonic are about to release a new one that copes with HDMI - so has some future proofing)

As has been mentioned though, there are no "real" wireless speakers as they still require a power supply.

To my knowledge (and I'm willing to stand corrected) I know of no battery operated speakers with the required receiver to do the job.

Possible not what you want to hear, but it may be easier to hide and disguise thin (or flat) speaker cable around carpet edges (or under) than trying to hide a mains cable scooting up the wall.

D

suniil · 25-05-2007, 09:48

forgot the model number, but read in last months what hi-fi that KEF has launched some wireless surrounds.

sherer · 25-05-2007, 10:08

well it's not Sony but Pioneer do what you are after.

have a look here

http://www.pioneer.co.uk/uk/content/press/DCS525.html

http://www.pioneer.co.uk/uk/products...535/index.html

never seen it in action and you still need power going to the rear speakers but if you put them at the back of a room and have a power socket there it will be ok

hope that helps

niall campbell · 25-05-2007, 12:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by sam bailie

Your comments were both very helpful and polite and for that i really thank you......The opposite in fact of that chap GOODWIN who was very very RUDE...regards Sam

well well. who do you think you are sam?

it sounds as if you have wee man syndrome. 5 feet two and have to shout and argue to be heard.

why dont you just go on google and look up sonys website

just because your wife bosses you around and tells you that you cant run a few wires in your living room does not give you the right to vent your anger at others. You horrible little man

17-05-2007, 20:57	#1
sam bailie Forum Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 47	wireless speakers Hi Do sony manufacture a home threater system with wire less speakers (my wife agrees to have surround sound system ...but hates speaker cables everywhere)..if so can you tell me the model number and approx., price please Regards Sam

18-05-2007, 00:01	#3
sam bailie Forum Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 47	surround sound thnx..what SONY home threater system is recommended? price band between £200--£400 ?

18-05-2007, 15:05	#5
sam bailie Forum Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 47	I didnt ask you if you were interested That was not my question...if you were to answer EVERY QUESTION...with a RUDE reply.....such as I,M NOT INTERESTED or even suggest they just run off to the shops...there would very soon be many ANGRY people...THANKS for NOTHING

18-05-2007, 18:23	#8
sam bailie Forum Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 47	thank you CHRISJR Your comments were both very helpful and polite and for that i really thank you......The opposite in fact of that chap GOODWIN who was very very RUDE...regards Sam

17-05-2007, 22:28	#2
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	No idea what the model numbers are, but I've seen some where the rear speakers are wireless, but require a mains connection to them (obviously) and a wire connecting them together. All things considered it's not a great deal easier than normal!.

18-05-2007, 09:59	#4
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by sam bailie thnx..what SONY home threater system is recommended? price band between £200--£400 ? Personally I've no interest in them, and find them a pain in the bum! You best option is to go and have a look in the shops and see which you like, some even come with stands for the speakers!.

18-05-2007, 15:08	#6
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	I think the only rude person here is you! - I carried on and gave you my response to your follow up question - I thought it only polite to explain why I couldn't make a suggestion. Perhaps you ought to attend politeness and anger management courses!.

18-05-2007, 15:19	#7
chrisjr Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Reading Posts: 27,916	I very much doubt you will find any truely wire less speakers. The speakers will require some form of amplification built in to drive them. So that is going to mean mains power or a battery pack - one shudders to think how big that will have to be to give you half decent power and time between battery changes. If they are mains powered then you are going to have wires running around the place anyway so may as well have conventional speakers powered by the amp. There is no way at all to drive enirely passive speakeres wirelessly. By passive I mean speakers with no amplification or any other electronics requiring an independent power source.

21-05-2007, 16:50	#9
campioni06 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 304	Quote: Originally Posted by sam bailie Your comments were both very helpful and polite and for that i really thank you......The opposite in fact of that chap GOODWIN who was very very RUDE...regards Sam You're way out of line Sam - just have a look at how many posts Nigel has made, and he's never been rude to anyone. Like everyone else on here he just tries to help the lesser tehcnically minded of us and gives his honest opinion.

22-05-2007, 20:49	#10
beachbum Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Liverpool Posts: 219	At the risk of being accused of rudeness, I too would say that surround sound is a p.i.t.a. If you look at the diagrams that come with them they always show a chair slap bang in the middle of the room, directly in frnt of the TV with four speakers placed symetrically around it. And to achieve surround sound, that is exactly what you need. Who lives like this apart from a few lucky individuals with huge sparsely furnished apartments? I think surround sound will soon go the same way as "quadraphonic sound"........ a system for filling our rooms with wires which was launched in the seventies as the successor to stereo. It died a death.

23-05-2007, 11:22	#11
broadz Banned User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,313	Quote: Originally Posted by beachbum At the risk of being accused of rudeness, I too would say that surround sound is a p.i.t.a. If you look at the diagrams that come with them they always show a chair slap bang in the middle of the room, directly in frnt of the TV with four speakers placed symetrically around it. And to achieve surround sound, that is exactly what you need. Who lives like this apart from a few lucky individuals with huge sparsely furnished apartments? I think surround sound will soon go the same way as "quadraphonic sound"........ a system for filling our rooms with wires which was launched in the seventies as the successor to stereo. It died a death. Oi. I don't live in a huge, sparsely furnished apartment. But, I've achieved a decent surround sound setup in the last four houses I've lived in. TV against the wall (centre of the wall, not tucked in a corner). Front left and right speakers in the two corners of the room facing inwards from the TV wall. Sub-woofer just to the left or right of the TV cabinet. Centre speaker mounted immediately above, or immediately below, TV. Surround sound speakers wall-mounted in the two opposite corners of the room to the two front speakers. Settee positioned against the back wall, between the two rear speakers, facing the TV. Other living room chairs positioned against the two side walls, diagonally facing the television. All speakers are cabled - it's amazing how you can hide speaker wire underneath carpets and laminated flooring, or you can paint them and pin them to skirting boards, so that they are practically invisible. I do agree that a decent surround sound set-up is difficult to achieve when people tuck their TV into a corner. I know lots of people who've tried, but you end up with the two front speakers being very close to each other either side of the TV, or massively wide apart but not equidistant from the television, and the two surround speakers not really being behind the seating arrangement. Luckily I've never had to do that. I'd hate having to go back to a stereo only AV setup.

23-05-2007, 12:21	#12
Dan Sette Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall (at last!) Posts: 5,641	Quote: Originally Posted by beachbum I think surround sound will soon go the same way as "quadraphonic sound"........ a system for filling our rooms with wires which was launched in the seventies as the successor to stereo. It died a death. Ok. Again at the risk of rudeness. You are totally wrong. Suuround sound has been readily available to everyone since the late 1980's when Yamaha marketed a very succesful souround sound amp. It has gone from strength to strength since then, really taking off with the availability of cheap DVD players. Nowadays the things sell in millions and there are numerous magazines and websites dedicated to it. People buy into Sky+ and Sky HD to get it, not to mention cable providers. You don't need a chair in the middle of a room to "get it" although those that spend many thousands of pounds on it will. Those who only want to spend £200 probably won't, they'll be happy with some sound from the rear speakers. Hardly a format that is "dead" Quadraphonic didn't take off for more reasons than you espouse. It was phenomenally expensive, required very speciallist equipment and there were three competing formats. To the OP. Sony do make one (although I understand Panasonic are about to release a new one that copes with HDMI - so has some future proofing) As has been mentioned though, there are no "real" wireless speakers as they still require a power supply. To my knowledge (and I'm willing to stand corrected) I know of no battery operated speakers with the required receiver to do the job. Possible not what you want to hear, but it may be easier to hide and disguise thin (or flat) speaker cable around carpet edges (or under) than trying to hide a mains cable scooting up the wall. D

25-05-2007, 09:48	#13
suniil Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London Posts: 2,539	forgot the model number, but read in last months what hi-fi that KEF has launched some wireless surrounds.

25-05-2007, 10:08	#14
sherer Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,718	well it's not Sony but Pioneer do what you are after. have a look here http://www.pioneer.co.uk/uk/content/press/DCS525.html http://www.pioneer.co.uk/uk/products...535/index.html never seen it in action and you still need power going to the rear speakers but if you put them at the back of a room and have a power socket there it will be ok hope that helps

25-05-2007, 12:22	#15
niall campbell Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Aberfeldy Posts: 7,035	Quote: Originally Posted by sam bailie Your comments were both very helpful and polite and for that i really thank you......The opposite in fact of that chap GOODWIN who was very very RUDE...regards Sam well well. who do you think you are sam? it sounds as if you have wee man syndrome. 5 feet two and have to shout and argue to be heard. why dont you just go on google and look up sonys website just because your wife bosses you around and tells you that you cant run a few wires in your living room does not give you the right to vent your anger at others. You horrible little man

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