There's no real time for when new stuff comes out, they tend to be renewed every few months.

You was robbed!

Presumably you paid over the odds because of the name on the front?, that's why they put the name there, to con unsuspecting people into paying much higher sums for a set they could have bought MUCH cheaper with various other names on it.

Personally I consider it VERY poor practice, at least Sony haven't stooped to doing it for TV's yet! - although they have hardly ever made their own VHS VCR's.

Surely thats a trade description abuse??

If you see the name of a big company most people would assume that company made the product.

If its made by someone with completely different standards and they just stick a label on then the public are being conned????

Its not until I started reading these forums that I realised how widespread it is.

Ian

the shops, or retailers,, or anyone, should tell the public, what are genuine, names,and products. in shops.

It's even more widespread on whitegoods.

What makes you think that the retailers actually know?

After all, the contract of manufacture is brought between the brand and the OEM. The retailer simply buys the products from the brand.

It's just a fact of living in a global economy, it's cheaper for firms to buy and rebrand than it is for them to make things.

my so called sharp tv. 32lw92h does not state where it was made, the grundig, 28 w70-20-20 is made in slovenia.
and as stated the beko one, in turkey...

The Sharp is Turkish, Vestel. Beko's rival.

thanks for your input..... a tv used to last several years a decade ago, now, anybodies guess...

A TV also cost a lot more a decade ago.

What Is An “Old” TV ?

This section is dedicated to the lady who phoned us ordering some user instructions for her three year old Grundig widescreen TV. That particular make has been a “badge engineered” product for the last five years or so (Dixons bought up the brand name, they`ve also got the Ferguson trademark) but since we know the cross reference we were able to supply the relevant operator guide.
Apparently Dixons (or Takeaway Currys Digital or whatever they call themselves these days * ) had told her “it`s an old one, we don`t keep the instructions for them anymore”.
Now I accept that I`m one of those people who thinks every car newer than a K plate (and
I mean the old K plate) is new * but anyone who thinks that ladies Grundig TV was “old” does not know what the hell they`re talking about. My own television is over 15 years old, still gives a picture to blow away any flat screen and it`s not bleedin` old, I`m a TV engineer so I know better than any salesman. They can take their built in obsolescence consumerism and shove it where only a colonoscopy is ever going to find it again. If any smarmy wet behind the ears sales assistant at Dixons had tried to tell me that my three year old set was old, I`d have told him to get back to his Playstation or (better still) try and get out a bit more. To me “old” implies that the performance of something has deteriorated or it`s reliability is suspect. The former can be easily checked (see CRT failure) and the latter is not just a function of age, the conditions that a piece of electronics are kept in are
probably more important. There is certainly no particular age at which this accelerates.
If it`s got a good picture and it doesn`t break down then it`s not old.......

Exactly, the retailers aren't told, and the 'manufacturer' won't even normally confirm that they didn't make it themselves.

I've been on service courses for new products, only to find out it's actually made by someone else (because I've seen the original!) - but you ask the guy doing the course about it, and they either deny the fact, or simply refuse to discuss it.

I've never had a manufacturer come out and admit they didn't make a product!.

Funny you mentioned white goods! - try looking at cookers, almost all of them are made by Beko in Turkey - they just change the shape of the knobs!

Indeed, Beko, Electrolux or The Indesit Company!