We aren't all born with the accent ALW requires for this role - they are always commenting on diction which may result in a few words being over-pronounced by our Northern contestants. You can hardly compare Lewis' mouth shapes to the awful red-eyed, grimacing, blubberly mess that was Daniel last night?
Was tonight the best sing-off? (19 May)
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You have to remember that we're seeing close-ups on TV, but they're auditioning to appear on stage - to some extent over-acting is needed so that things have a chance of coming across to those sitting further back. I've only sat near the front a couple of times in the theatre (when there haven't been enough people to fill the balcony!) and the performers really do look as though they're overdoing their actions.
Originally Posted by Jocko Homo:
“Denise said he did the best in the seduction task, which really has very little to do with acting skills.”
“Denise said he did the best in the seduction task, which really has very little to do with acting skills.”
Erm...what?
They had to put on an act! What sort of skills are you imagining that used?
Originally Posted by choochoo:
“I'm afraid that I couldn't see how fantastic Daniel was as he seemed to blub his way through his half. I found it very uncomfortable to watch as I felt he was overdoing it (IMO). Lewis was more natural but I think he'll be out next week.”
“I'm afraid that I couldn't see how fantastic Daniel was as he seemed to blub his way through his half. I found it very uncomfortable to watch as I felt he was overdoing it (IMO). Lewis was more natural but I think he'll be out next week.”
I agree with both points (fingers crossed it's craig though). His face looked constipated...it was almost the face of a grizzling child and his voice just did powerful - no subtlety. I was amazed, I thought he was going to wipe the floor with Lewis (who as far as I was concerned had been crap mostly), but he was awful.
Originally Posted by Phil2003:
“You have to remember that we're seeing close-ups on TV, but they're auditioning to appear on stage - to some extent over-acting is needed so that things have a chance of coming across to those sitting further back. I've only sat near the front a couple of times in the theatre (when there haven't been enough people to fill the balcony!) and the performers really do look as though they're overdoing their actions.”
“You have to remember that we're seeing close-ups on TV, but they're auditioning to appear on stage - to some extent over-acting is needed so that things have a chance of coming across to those sitting further back. I've only sat near the front a couple of times in the theatre (when there haven't been enough people to fill the balcony!) and the performers really do look as though they're overdoing their actions.”
...and yet this is a good point.
Originally Posted by _Zd_Phoenix_:
“Erm...what?
They had to put on an act! What sort of skills are you imagining that used? .”
“Erm...what?
They had to put on an act! What sort of skills are you imagining that used?
.”
what I mean is that its not a clear indicator of their acting skills. If it had been Lee and Ben would have been a lot better.
Originally Posted by choochoo:
“We aren't all born with the accent ALW requires for this role - they are always commenting on diction which may result in a few words being over-pronounced by our Northern contestants. You can hardly compare Lewis' mouth shapes to the awful red-eyed, grimacing, blubberly mess that was Daniel last night?”
“We aren't all born with the accent ALW requires for this role - they are always commenting on diction which may result in a few words being over-pronounced by our Northern contestants. You can hardly compare Lewis' mouth shapes to the awful red-eyed, grimacing, blubberly mess that was Daniel last night?”
You meany!
Daniel sang, acted and emoted anything that had gone before into the next county.
I admire Ben for the way he's risen to the occasion in both his sing-offs but Daniel did the same and then some last night and was not rewarded in the same way for his effort.
Lewis might as well not have bothered. He was just as mediocre as he had been in the previous week's sing off and even worse than he's been in some of his solo performances but it was obvious ALW was going to put him through again.
I admire Ben for the way he's risen to the occasion in both his sing-offs but Daniel did the same and then some last night and was not rewarded in the same way for his effort.
Lewis might as well not have bothered. He was just as mediocre as he had been in the previous week's sing off and even worse than he's been in some of his solo performances but it was obvious ALW was going to put him through again.
Originally Posted by choochoo:
“You can hardly compare Lewis' mouth shapes to the awful red-eyed, grimacing, blubberly mess that was Daniel last night?”
“You can hardly compare Lewis' mouth shapes to the awful red-eyed, grimacing, blubberly mess that was Daniel last night?”
It's a very sad and emotional song. How did you expect him to perform it? Laughing?
Originally Posted by _Zd_Phoenix_:
“His face looked constipated...it was almost the face of a grizzling child and his voice just did powerful - no subtlety. I was amazed, I thought he was going to wipe the floor with Lewis (who as far as I was concerned had been crap mostly), but he was awful.”
“His face looked constipated...it was almost the face of a grizzling child and his voice just did powerful - no subtlety. I was amazed, I thought he was going to wipe the floor with Lewis (who as far as I was concerned had been crap mostly), but he was awful.”
Oh, please.
I think you will find that that is called "acting". Some of the other contestants would do well to look up that word in the dictionary. Too many of them are performing as pop stars rather than stage artists.
Daniel didn't just wipe the floor with Lewis, he swept the garden and cleaned the lav with him.
Originally Posted by choochoo:
“I'm afraid that I couldn't see how fantastic Daniel was as he seemed to blub his way through his half. I found it very uncomfortable to watch as I felt he was overdoing it (IMO). Lewis was more natural but I think he'll be out next week.”
“I'm afraid that I couldn't see how fantastic Daniel was as he seemed to blub his way through his half. I found it very uncomfortable to watch as I felt he was overdoing it (IMO). Lewis was more natural but I think he'll be out next week.”
It has uncomfortable lyrical content and connotations so if he was making you feel uncomfortable, he was doing his job.
As for Lewis being natural, his mouth movements remind me of the tortoise from the Creature Comforts energy ads.
Originally Posted by Phil2003:
“You have to remember that we're seeing close-ups on TV, but they're auditioning to appear on stage - to some extent over-acting is needed so that things have a chance of coming across to those sitting further back. I've only sat near the front a couple of times in the theatre (when there haven't been enough people to fill the balcony!) and the performers really do look as though they're overdoing their actions.”
“You have to remember that we're seeing close-ups on TV, but they're auditioning to appear on stage - to some extent over-acting is needed so that things have a chance of coming across to those sitting further back. I've only sat near the front a couple of times in the theatre (when there haven't been enough people to fill the balcony!) and the performers really do look as though they're overdoing their actions.”
Good point.
Experienced and renowned stage actors are often accused of overacting when they appear on TV or films.
Originally Posted by sHAYneWARD:
“It's a very sad and emotional song. How did you expect him to perform it? Laughing?
Oh, please.
I think you will find that that is called "acting". Some of the other contestants would do well to look up that word in the dictionary. Too many of them are performing as pop stars rather than stage artists.
Daniel didn't just wipe the floor with Lewis, he swept the garden and cleaned the lav with him.
It has uncomfortable lyrical content and connotations so if he was making you feel uncomfortable, he was doing his job.
As for Lewis being natural, his mouth movements remind me of the tortoise from the Creature Comforts energy ads.”
“It's a very sad and emotional song. How did you expect him to perform it? Laughing?
Oh, please.
I think you will find that that is called "acting". Some of the other contestants would do well to look up that word in the dictionary. Too many of them are performing as pop stars rather than stage artists.
Daniel didn't just wipe the floor with Lewis, he swept the garden and cleaned the lav with him.
It has uncomfortable lyrical content and connotations so if he was making you feel uncomfortable, he was doing his job.
As for Lewis being natural, his mouth movements remind me of the tortoise from the Creature Comforts energy ads.”
Great post
The tortoise
Spot on
Originally Posted by jaybs:
“I don't think that Lewis was more natural as he over emphasises his mouth shaping the words he sings, anyone who is a natural vocalist does not need to do that, it looks very uncomfortable.”
“I don't think that Lewis was more natural as he over emphasises his mouth shaping the words he sings, anyone who is a natural vocalist does not need to do that, it looks very uncomfortable.”
You know you've hit the nail on the head to what's been bugging me about him and I've not figured it out. I have been saying that I think he's too "stage school", but not really been able to quantify it anymore. That's exactly what it is. It's the over shaping of the mouth. I went to drama lessons as a kid and we had to say our vowels with a cork in our mouth. He's doing something similar, only without the cork!
Originally Posted by waterloosunset:
“You know you've hit the nail on the head to what's been bugging me about him and I've not figured it out. I have been saying that I think he's too "stage school", but not really been able to quantify it anymore. That's exactly what it is. It's the over shaping of the mouth. I went to drama lessons as a kid and we had to say our vowels with a cork in our mouth. He's doing something similar, only without the cork!”
“You know you've hit the nail on the head to what's been bugging me about him and I've not figured it out. I have been saying that I think he's too "stage school", but not really been able to quantify it anymore. That's exactly what it is. It's the over shaping of the mouth. I went to drama lessons as a kid and we had to say our vowels with a cork in our mouth. He's doing something similar, only without the cork!”
my OH thinks Lewis looks like he's had botox because he stares into the camera and seems to have little facial expression
Originally Posted by waterloosunset:
“You know you've hit the nail on the head to what's been bugging me about him and I've not figured it out. I have been saying that I think he's too "stage school", but not really been able to quantify it anymore. That's exactly what it is. It's the over shaping of the mouth. I went to drama lessons as a kid and we had to say our vowels with a cork in our mouth. He's doing something similar, only without the cork!”
“You know you've hit the nail on the head to what's been bugging me about him and I've not figured it out. I have been saying that I think he's too "stage school", but not really been able to quantify it anymore. That's exactly what it is. It's the over shaping of the mouth. I went to drama lessons as a kid and we had to say our vowels with a cork in our mouth. He's doing something similar, only without the cork!”
That is exactly right, just what we are taught at "stage school" but that is as a youngster, not as this stage, why none of the so called judges have called this I will never know, but then again Nice Mr Kenwright - Everyone could be Joseph!!!!
Originally Posted by jaybs:
“I don't think that Lewis was more natural as he over emphasises his mouth shaping the words he sings, anyone who is a natural vocalist does not need to do that, it looks very uncomfortable.”
“I don't think that Lewis was more natural as he over emphasises his mouth shaping the words he sings, anyone who is a natural vocalist does not need to do that, it looks very uncomfortable.”
I think thats what zoe tells them to do, as, lewis is not the first contestant i have noticed doing it.
Originally Posted by thms:
“did zoe tell lee to emphasise his neck veins too?
”
“did zoe tell lee to emphasise his neck veins too?
”
Maybe she told daniel to try and look even older than he already did, ben to seem even more arrogant, and keith to have even worse diction?
Originally Posted by cleo1:
“Maybe she told daniel to try and look even older than he already did, ben to seem even more arrogant, and keith to have even worse diction?”
“Maybe she told daniel to try and look even older than he already did, ben to seem even more arrogant, and keith to have even worse diction?
”
We all may have favourites, but their is a huge difference in being constructive or just plain fanatical!
I liked ben and seamus's sing off becuase seamus showed ben up to be totally lacking in comparision.
Originally Posted by thms:
“did zoe tell lee to emphasise his neck veins too?”
“did zoe tell lee to emphasise his neck veins too?
”
I must never notice anything other than Daniel, (naturally
), cos i've never noticed Lee's lisp or neck vein thingy till it was pointed out! Craigs lipsmacking is now in my face too!Daniel sung with great emotion and every time i watch it, i'm brought to tears
Originally Posted by Jayden:
“I must never notice anything other than Daniel, (naturally), cos i've never noticed Lee's lisp or neck vein thingy till it was pointed out! Craigs lipsmacking is now in my face too!
Daniel sung with great emotion and every time i watch it, i'm brought to tears”
“I must never notice anything other than Daniel, (naturally
), cos i've never noticed Lee's lisp or neck vein thingy till it was pointed out! Craigs lipsmacking is now in my face too!Daniel sung with great emotion and every time i watch it, i'm brought to tears
”
Which bit - he did in the sing off, but not Evergreen. For me Evergreen was the worst performance of the night.
But, agreed, he was magnificent in the sing off and the end bit.
Originally Posted by Vix1:
“Which bit - he did in the sing off, but not Evergreen. For me Evergreen was the worst performance of the night.
But, agreed, he was magnificent in the sing off and the end bit.”
“Which bit - he did in the sing off, but not Evergreen. For me Evergreen was the worst performance of the night.
But, agreed, he was magnificent in the sing off and the end bit.”
This is coming from a huge Will Young fan - but Evergreen is a pants song - Will doesn't like singing it ... originally it was Westlife's song says it all really.
When you see how well he sung Bring Him Home it makes you wonder why none of them were given these types of song to sing ... It does show the great from the good.
By the way, I thought Lewis did a good job as well, but he was out-sung IMO.
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