So isn't it nice that the thin vile of any delusion that we are paying money and ALW is getting free advertising to get his chosen Professional Westend Artist Lee into the show, has now been lifted.

ALW gets a Professional Westend Artist who has appeared in one of HIS OWN SHOWS a job in his latest production and gets free advertising on prime time BBC that money really can not buy.

Gets us to pay but with no chance of it all going wrong as ALW has the last say right up to the finals when the only ones remaining will be the one already on the contract (Lee) and some other who will be slagged off and it made sure that they won't win.

Professional should be banned or it looks like it does at the moment a TOTAL SET UP.

This contest is not even seen to be fair now.

...and the winner is..... ALW and his best buddy Lee.

Oh and all those people who will fill ALW's pockets by going to the show that has had 10,000,000s of pounds worth of advertising for him and his Ringer.

No contest (As there isn't any kind of contest going on and certainly not any fair contest)

I thought that ALW only decides up until the semi final then it is down to a public vote. Either way if Lee wins that is fine by me.

Point 1: I said finalS - a semi FINAL is a FINAL

Point 2: You are easily pleased and exactly who this show was aimed at:. People who don't mind being taking as mugs.

Lee was head and shoulders above everyone else last night, and I have no financial interest in saying so. If he wins, it will be because the public have voted for him. If the public prefer someone else, they will win.

The whole show is a big BBC advert for Joseph, and I can understand people who complain about that, but there is no point in Andrew forcing a pre-determined "friend" onto the public. It makes much more financial sense for him to push for the best and most popular Joseph to win the role.

Unless you have some evidence that Andrew LW has a side-line in artist management, and Lee was on his books, and the whole tv show is designed to allow him to get 15% of Lee's earnings, then you are grasping at straws.

If you are bothered about money going to ALW then don't vote - simple really, isn't it?

point 1 - you don't know me - so kindly don't tell me what sort of person I am

point 2 - I suggest you stop watching this show.

My my, who rattled your cage?

Daniel going out last night was an absolute travesty but, on the night, Lee was head and shoulders above everyone else.

If ALW can send Daniel home like that, if I were Lee, I wouldn't be feeling that confident! ALW seems to think Lewis has something, saving him twice.

Thats what irritates me the most about the Decision's ALW has made - Lee is brilliant, clearly the best and clearly the one who should be Joesph. So why is ALW knocking out the other strong contenders? It shows that he doesn't trust the public to vote for the right man in the final.

I thought this a couple of weeks ago when he sent home Anthony and Seamus. He kept Ben and Craig knowing that they were weak, that they would probably be in the singoff again and so that there was no rush to send them home (think he might be getting a bit nervous about that now in Ben's case), whereas Seamus especially showed real potential. While it does make Lee stand out all the more, it will make it feel a bit cheap when he eventually does win - knowing that those who could have challenged him were sent out early. The public aren't stupid and Lee is wonderful - let him prove it with some real competition, not against those who clearly can't keep pace with him.

ALW's negative comments about Daniel definitely influenced the vote last night.

ALW knows who he wants and will use his comments to get the desired result! The public is so gullible.

well personally - I wouldn't vote for someone I didn't like just because of ALWs negative comments. Lee had some very bad comments and was called 'rubbish' one week - that didn't change my opinion of Lee in the least - I just thought they were wrong.

Spot on !

ALW has jettisoned musical theatre voices (Seamus, Chris B, now Daniel) and kept light, poppy voices (Ben, Craig, Lewis) at every opportunity. It remains to be seen if Lee really is the chosen one, being the last dramatic-voiced performer left.

In a contest of finding the new Miss World, Old Miss World's are not allowed to enter.

In a competition to find a Westend stage star would if be fair to have me (not even an amateur) and John Barrowman (a Westend stage artist)

This should have been a non-professionals ONLY comp or it makes no sense.

Well it does, for all the reasons they are running it. ALW's pre-chosen mate and a load of filler artist just to get exactly who he wants in the first place and free advertising for his show.

A lot of you keep saying that Lee was so much better than everyone else last night like that is meant to mean something: John Barrowman would come out tops in a comp with me but it would hardly be a fair contest having a Westend stage star with experience in it, wouldn't it?

One big farce just like Big Brother - Reality TV is now means that 99% of the viewers can't face, handle or even see the reality of what is really going on.

Plextor, really, if you have that many problems with the show, why do you bother watching it?
Turn it over to Grease, plenty of non-professionals there

hmm Plextor really has a problem about this ..If so rattled why even bother commenting on this show ..It will give you high blood pressure in the end.
I tuned In late to this show ..knew nothing about any of them ..but Lee had a charisma ..and talent which I chose to vote for.
He has as much right as any one to audition for this ..Some acters are top notch at their tv shows ..but when they leave doesnt mean they will be picked for other sought after roles so quickly.
Just as some soap acters sighn their death warrents when they leave .
Lee has a right to want any job he wants.

You are being very Insulting though to the other Josephs ..who really have showed talent ..whether as trained or not ..Lee has not always gained good remarks.
Keith however It is a love fest when he is on.
I do not hold with the conspiracy thoughts.
Lee may not win at all

hmmm and not forgetting the funny sort of plea ALW made regarding showbusiness mothers or something....which was a bit bizarre at the time...

People who say Lee was "head and shoulders" above anyone else, they where not watching the same Lee as me - BEN was a good as Lee, but no one can tell me that Daniel was the worst last night and even more so on the sing off!

Ben has come on leaps and bounds - I'd say he is the only other serious contender to challenge Lee left, and considering that he was a bit of a joke in the first few weeks, that is a really big achievement for him. But next week will be make or break for him - he's struggled with the ballards before (sing off with Seamus aside). If he's as good next week as he was this one then I'll agree we still have competition.

Possibly but I don't think Keith is ALW's real favourite at all. In the maria show the judges had a love-fest with Siobhan, who couldn't act or perform in anyway, but by the finals they turned on her. She was their decoy to protect their real favourite: Connie. I think the same may be happening here.

Interestingly Andrew said recently that Keith has to make 'one final leap', he said something similar about Siobhan.

Why IS it always the solution to anything in life is to ignore it rather than get of one's back side and actually address it?

How many times does this (sorry) cheap cop out get suggested as a solution on these boards?

No wonder why people like ALW and the Big Brother producers can get away with what they want as no one has a backbone anymore and because of that they can feed you any old rubbish and get away with it.

I'm not so bold as to think that highlighting what their little game really is on an internet forum will or would have any effect at all, but it's far better to do or say something rather than the "Oh well" spineless attitude.

Instead of spouting on about it, I suggest that you put your money where your mouth is and watch ADWD's rival show, Grease, on ITV, where most of the contestants are untrained.
I personally have no problem with professionals being allowed on the show.

Talk about not getting it: There are thousands of threads here for who was/is better than someone else: THIS IS NOT THE THREAD FOR IT. It's not what the thread is about and it make no difference if everyone else is better than Lee or Lee is better than everyone else.

Sorry but please stop turning the thread into what it isn't about. If you don't understand what the thread IS about then all you have to do is ask.

I have a quite different view about the use of professional actors in this type of show. There are so many out of work actors who struggle to make a living that the thought of a complete unknown being cast in a leading role seems very unfair. I believe that all of the final five are in some way involved in the entertainment business whether as a student (at drama school/performing arts) or working.
If someone came to work in my profession without putting in the years of training I had then I'd be pretty annoyed.

Then you know nothing about fairness then do you.

As for the rest, I will do as I please thanks all the same.

It comes to something when you can't say anything negative about a show without the lame "Well don't watch it then" and then the suggestion that you stop posting here and go somewhere else and ALL form someone who doesn't agree with you.

If you have something to say or debate, please feel free to do that but trying to shut me up and/or get rid of me is not how you debate things.

Or maybe in your unfair world, it IS. Eliminate the competition rather than face them and so play on an unlevel playing field. That figures!