[KingCanute]

As bizarre as it may seem, when I was in the supermarket doing some shopping the other day, I heard a gentleman say this to his wife that "Hitler had the right idea". I'm not really sure what he meant by this, and thought that it seemed like a bit of a strange thing to say. Does anyone use this phrase, and if so, in what sort of context?

[skp20040]

Maybe he meant he had the right idea by shooting himself, just shame it took him so long to do it.

If he did have any good ideas, they are I am afraid outshone by his vile nastiness and cruelty in other things.

[katie101jane]

He did build a load of motorways and so on (IIRC, we've been doing it in History) but most of his other policies involved such tyrannical behaviour that everything good he may have done is totally cancelled out by all the atrocities that occurred as a result of his totalitarian regime.

One thing that really disgusts me (we haven't done much work on it yet, so haven't covered other parts of this topic, but I know about this because I researched it) is that he allowed bastards like Josef Mengele (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele) to continue their work.

Makes me so angry

[Misanthrope]

Bill Hicks had a infamous rant at a heckler which included the sentiment.

Originally Posted by Bill Hicks

Jimmy Shorts. He's not here. He's not gonna be here, now what? Now where are we? [voice rises faster] We're here with you interrupting me again, you ****ing idiot! That's … you see where we're at? We're here at the same point again, where you, the ****ing peon masses, can once again ruin anyone who tries to do anything because you don't know how to do it on your own! [shouting] That's where we're ****ing at! Once again, the useless wastes of ****ing flesh that has ruined everything good in this goddamn world! That's where we're at! Hitler had the right idea, he was just an underachiever! Kill 'em all, Adolf, all of 'em! Jew, Mexican, American, white, kill 'em all! Start over, the experiment didn't work! [despairingly] Rain forty days, please ****ing rain to wash these turds off my ****ing life! Wash these human wastes of flesh and bone off this planet! I pray to you, God, to kill these ****ing people!

[TeaBagger Vance]

For survival of the Human Race then yes. 1 Dictatorship, 1 race.

[batgirl]

Originally Posted by KingCanute

As bizarre as it may seem, when I was in the supermarket doing some shopping the other day, I heard a gentleman say this to his wife that "Hitler had the right idea". I'm not really sure what he meant by this, and thought that it seemed like a bit of a strange thing to say. Does anyone use this phrase, and if so, in what sort of context?

It's a tad tasteless, but people do use the phrase to kind of illustrate a tough way of dealing with something undesirable.

As this was in a supermarket, though, maybe he was thinking about vegetarianism - one story goes that Hitler was a veggie.

[TeaBagger Vance]

vokswagens are good cars

[SULLA]

Hitler did not have the right idea. Invading Russia and ignoring the advice of all his best Field Marshalls was not the right idea

[cosham]

the autobahns were begun under the wiemar republic.
hitler just took the credit for them.

[KJ44]

Originally Posted by KingCanute

I'm not really sure what he meant by this, and thought that it seemed like a bit of a strange thing to say. Does anyone use this phrase, and if so, in what sort of context?

I suggest it's an indirect racist remark, wishing upon some ethnic group the outcome of the Holocaust.

I'm a little shocked you have to ask because it seems the obvious interpretation.

[Smeggypants]

No Hitler didn't have the right idea.

[dmuk]

Maybe he was talking about 2 in 1 shampoos, and that hitler had the right idea in taking two bottles into the shower, as you get less in one bottle.

[*Bex*]

Mussolini made the trains run on time... that was pretty good. But Adolf was pretty wide of the mark...

[KJ44]

Originally Posted by *Bex*

Mussolini made the trains run on time... that was pretty good. But Adolf was pretty wide of the mark...

I was toying with the idea of starting a Mussolini thread ...

[cosham]

mussolini just alter the time tables,so it looked like he made them run on time.

[The_Mentalist]

Hitler had the idea but just went about it the wrong way.

[BlurAlly]

Originally Posted by KJ44

I suggest it's an indirect racist remark, wishing upon some ethnic group the outcome of the Holocaust.

I'm a little shocked you have to ask because it seems the obvious interpretation.

No interpretation is obvious as its an interpretation and everyone has a different one. Thats the whole point of having an 'interpretation'.

I don't think its as simple as that to say this person was being racist, they could have been talking about any number of things Hitler had done which was (although very briefly) good for Germany. Like jobs etc etc.

Not that I am saying any of that out weighs the bad but I don't think its right to suppose what that person meant just because of this.

[Deathwarmedup]

As an early post said the only good idea Hitler had was blowing his brains out.
My dad said this once and we had a big argument about how stupid it was for my dad to say this. About the only time I stood up to my dad. It was even more daft when you consider my Dad lived through WW2.

[KJ44]

Originally Posted by BlurAlly

No interpretation is obvious as its an interpretation and everyone has a different one. Thats the whole point of having an 'interpretation'.

I don't think its as simple as that to say this person was being racist, they could have been talking about any number of things Hitler had done which was (although very briefly) good for Germany. Like jobs etc etc.

Not that I am saying any of that out weighs the bad but I don't think its right to suppose what that person meant just because of this.

With respect, I think you're wrong. In the same way the Daily Mail stereotype moans about political correctness, I suggest you're showing too much of what I consider a modern mistake, namely an excess of moral relativism, a philosophy that arises out of not wishing to cause offence.

When the older generation uses some swear words, they're accused of being anti-this, anti-that, when they're not.

OTOH, the "Hitler was right" is a cowardly euphemism, and it's racist, and it is crystal clear.

[BlurAlly]

Originally Posted by KJ44

With respect, I think you're wrong. In the same way the Daily Mail stereotype moans about political correctness, I suggest you're showing too much of what I consider a modern mistake, namely an excess of moral relativism, a philosophy that arises out of not wishing to cause offence.

When the older generation uses some swear words, they're accused of being anti-this, anti-that, when they're not.

OTOH, the "Hitler was right" is a cowardly euphemism, and it's racist, and it is crystal clear.

Fine that is your opinion. But I don't read the Daily Mail and certainly don't intentionally follow any stereotypes. I am making my assumption based on the information that Hitler did do some things while he was in power that some people may have approved of. Not meaning racist attacks of course.

You are making a judgement about someone you have not met and you have no idea what they were referring to. Neither of us know, this person may have meant it in a nasty, racist way but he may not have. I personally think its possible to read too much into something. This is where mistakes can get made and branding of someone is made all too easy.

Things aren't all black and white.

[BeanG]

I could see where he was coming from

[Mandy_Rosie]

Maybe he liked his moustache.

[KJ44]

Originally Posted by BlurAlly

I don't read the Daily Mail and certainly don't intentionally follow any stereotypes.

Detail point - I didn't say you were the DM stereotype.

Of course things aren't all black and white, but you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater aiming for a balanced viewpoint in this case.

That's dangerous thinking.

[5th Horseman]

Originally Posted by *Bex*

Mussolini made the trains run on time... that was pretty good. But Adolf was pretty wide of the mark...

Didn't he change the timetables to do it though, bit like the UK railways in that respect.

[KJ44]

Originally Posted by 5th Horseman

Didn't he change the timetables to do it though, bit like the UK railways in that respect.

We're doomed to repeat the mistakes of history