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The Rise Of The Underdogs.....
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trixiehobbit
29-05-2007
Originally Posted by lassie:
“Woah! Steady there Trixiehobbit I can feel the heat from here.”


Hehee I've watched it four time so far \o/

and Craig "Watch me now ! !!"
OOh I have
B10nd13
29-05-2007
I think Lee's looked pretty unbeatable from show 1. All credit for the boys that are left for suviving this long, partic to Ben who's showed such a massive improvement, but I can't see any of them as real contenders to win. Got a feeling its going to be a pretty boring final to be honest, as the result is a foregone conclusion.
Eryndil
29-05-2007
Originally Posted by B10nd13:
“I think Lee's looked pretty unbeatable from show 1. All credit for the boys that are left for suviving this long, partic to Ben who's showed such a massive improvement, but I can't see any of them as real contenders to win. Got a feeling its going to be a pretty boring final to be honest, as the result is a foregone conclusion.”

I think it's funny that people who aren't so keen on Lee think it's a foregone conclusion but his fans (yes, I'm one) think it's anything but! Shouldn't we be the other way round?
lassie
29-05-2007
Well I've spent best part of today watching the clips, (erm Do you Love Me quite a few times ) I think I've narrowed down my favourites now.

Lee is favourite as I believe he's the best all rounder, has everything.

Ben is not the best singer but what he lacks he makes up for in movement and in presence in spades (God I've gotta stop watching that video, the boy can moooove!!!)

Lewis needs work but could be really really good. I just feel he's too soft at the moment, but he's given some good performances.

Keith has a little bit of everything, but just doesn't do it for me. Sorry Keith.
Eryndil
29-05-2007
Originally Posted by lassie:
“Well I've spent best part of today watching the clips, (erm Do you Love Me quite a few times ) I think I've narrowed down my favourites now.

Lee is favourite as I believe he's the best all rounder, has everything.

Ben is not the best singer but what he lacks he makes up for in movement and in presence in spades (God I've gotta stop watching that video, the boy can moooove!!!)

Lewis needs work but could be really really good. I just feel he's too soft at the moment, but he's given some good performances.

Keith has a little bit of everything, but just doesn't do it for me. Sorry Keith.”


Ben certainly does have some good moves. A bit plump for my taste but we are all different. Keith has a very strong voice of course, but doesn't move so well IMO.

Lewis does seem to have talent but needs a bit of time to develop it and get stronger emotionally (was going to make comment about being soft but must remember this is not like the Lee thread )

Lee is my fave but the others are all good too and deserve to do well in their chosen career.
lassie
29-05-2007
pmsl eryndil, I'll have to visit the Lee thread.
Eryndil
29-05-2007
Originally Posted by lassie:
“pmsl eryndil, I'll have to visit the Lee thread.”

Late at night is best...as long as you're not easily shocked
jaybs
29-05-2007
Originally Posted by Eryndil:
“I think it's funny that people who aren't so keen on Lee think it's a foregone conclusion but his fans (yes, I'm one) think it's anything but! Shouldn't we be the other way round? ”


I think it is the other way round really!! most of your fellow fans think it is all over he is crowned! - but the "fat lady" still has to sing.

What is this about Ben being Plump? - have you had your TV checked??
twingle
29-05-2007
Originally Posted by Eryndil:
“Ben certainly does have some good moves. A bit plump for my taste but we are all different. Keith has a very strong voice of course, but doesn't move so well IMO.

Lewis does seem to have talent but needs a bit of time to develop it and get stronger emotionally (was going to make comment about being soft but must remember this is not like the Lee thread )

Lee is my fave but the others are all good too and deserve to do well in their chosen career.”

Sorry this has made me laugh but you are right this is your opinion. He doesn't look plumper than Lee and Craig was very chunky but in a very nice chunky way.
cleo1
29-05-2007
Originally Posted by twingle:
“Sorry this has made me laugh but you are right this is your opinion. He doesn't look plumper than Lee and Craig was very chunky but in a very nice chunky way.”

personally don't think any of the looked "plump" - daniel was prob the biggest, and he still looked fine.
Holza
29-05-2007
Originally Posted by Eryndil:
“Ben certainly does have some good moves. A bit plump for my taste but we are all different. Keith has a very strong voice of course, but doesn't move so well IMO.

Lewis does seem to have talent but needs a bit of time to develop it and get stronger emotionally (was going to make comment about being soft but must remember this is not like the Lee thread )

Lee is my fave but the others are all good too and deserve to do well in their chosen career.”

A bit plump Being skinny wouldn't cut it a loincloth (not that I think he's plump of course!!!)
trixiehobbit
29-05-2007
Oy!
He ain't heavy !
He's my brotherrrrrrrr .............l

Bless his plump parts. He sure knows how to move and groove 'em baby
twingle
29-05-2007
Originally Posted by trixiehobbit:
“Oy!
He ain't heavy !
He's my brotherrrrrrrr .............l

Bless his plump parts. He sure knows how to move and groove 'em baby ”


Eryndil
30-05-2007
Originally Posted by jaybs:
“I think it is the other way round really!! most of your fellow fans think it is all over he is crowned! - but the "fat lady" still has to sing.

What is this about Ben being Plump? - have you had your TV checked?? ”

Well, I just know that the denizens of the Lee appreciation thread are very nervous every Saturday in case he goes. Obviously, we don't think he deserves to (we wouldn't, would we!) but are certainly not sure that the result is cut and dried. I suppose all the Josephs have some very vocal and confident fans who tend to get noticed more than the rest.
Phil2003
30-05-2007
Originally Posted by Eryndil:
“Well, I just know that the denizens of the Lee appreciation thread are very nervous every Saturday in case he goes. Obviously, we don't think he deserves to (we wouldn't, would we!) but are certainly not sure that the result is cut and dried. I suppose all the Josephs have some very vocal and confident fans who tend to get noticed more than the rest.”

I think Lee probably will win by some margin, but I also still worry about some kind of anti-Lee vote by some of the people who seem to think he's cheating or something. Let's hope we're worring unnecessarily!
Eryndil
30-05-2007
Originally Posted by twingle:
“Sorry this has made me laugh but you are right this is your opinion. He doesn't look plumper than Lee and Craig was very chunky but in a very nice chunky way.”

Oops, didn't mean to upset Ben fans As I said, it's a matter of taste. Just that while he was doing the dancing, I thought he had good moves but a bit more flesh on him than I personally like. I don't mean 'plump' as an insult, more an affectionate term. I think he is a bit more well covered than Lee, but again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing.

We all have our own likes and dislikes - the world would be pretty boring otherwise. I just think that it's good to be able to discuss them without getting into an argument. That doesn't always seem to happen, sadly.
cleo1
30-05-2007
Originally Posted by Phil2003:
“I think Lee probably will win by some margin, but I also still worry about some kind of anti-Lee vote by some of the people who seem to think he's cheating or something. Let's hope we're worring unnecessarily! ”

it is beyond sad if people would vote for any reason other than for who id the most talented, but, from the final contestants left, we can clearly see that they do, so it wouldn't suprise me if some people do anti-lee vote - so sad that people can be so ignorant and completely miss the whole point of the show.
B10nd13
30-05-2007
Originally Posted by Eryndil:
“I think it's funny that people who aren't so keen on Lee think it's a foregone conclusion but his fans (yes, I'm one) think it's anything but! Shouldn't we be the other way round? ”

Actually I'm a fan of Lee's. He's the only one I've voted for. But I just think it would be a bit more exciting if some of the others with potential (Daniel, Seamus, etc) had made it to the final. As good as they are, none of the others really match Lee for ability and it stands out a mile - I thought they had forgotten to turn their mikes on for the Pharoh's song on Sat. I could only ever really hear Lee.
trixiehobbit
30-05-2007
Originally Posted by cleo1:
“it is beyond sad if people would vote for any reason other than for who id the most talented, but, from the final contestants left, we can clearly see that they do, so it wouldn't suprise me if some people do anti-lee vote - so sad that people can be so ignorant and completely miss the whole point of the show.”

Bit harsh for Keith fans there isn't it? He hasn't been in the bottom either. You think that if people vote Ben, say, as their favourite Joseph, its only because they don't want Lee to win? The whole point of the show is to find the peoples Joseph - not who can score highest on the technicals. Be no point at all if it were cut and dry before the finish line
jaybs
30-05-2007
Yes we all vote for what we hope will be the Peoples JOSEPH but we can only vote who we think is best! and for me it is BEN!

Though I did like DANIEL but he will go onto do much better in The West End.
Gillypoots
30-05-2007
I have to say that I'm awaiting the threads started AFTER the Final!

If there's side swipes being taken at other favourites now, heaven only knows what it will be like after the event.

Especially if by some strange off chance Lee doesn't win!
cleo1
30-05-2007
Originally Posted by trixiehobbit:
“Bit harsh for Keith fans there isn't it? He hasn't been in the bottom either. You think that if people vote Ben, say, as their favourite Joseph, its only because they don't want Lee to win? The whole point of the show is to find the peoples Joseph - not who can score highest on the technicals. Be no point at all if it were cut and dry before the finish line ”

I never mentioned keith! and i never said that people vote for other contestants purely so lee won't win. my point was, its sad if people vote for any other reason than who is the most talented. people voting becuase they fancie a contestant or feel they seem sweet is silly, as that has nothing to do with their abilities to play a lead role in the west end, and it won't do the contestant any good either if they cannot cut it if they get the role because some people have voted for daft reasons.
Gillypoots
30-05-2007
Originally Posted by cleo1:
“I never mentioned keith! and i never said that people vote for other contestants purely so lee won't win. my point was, its sad if people vote for any other reason than who is the most talented. people voting becuase they fancie a contestant or feel they seem sweet is silly, as that has nothing to do with their abilities to play a lead role in the west end, and it won't do the contestant any good either if they cannot cut it if they get the role because some people have voted for daft reasons.”

At the end of the day, with this type of reality show, I believe that many viewers vote for the singer or performance they like best on the night.

Although we all know that there is no doubt most of the contestests do have fan bases, I believe that many votes cast are what I would call floating votes. A contestant the viewer might vote for one week, could easily lose that vote the following week because the viewer decides that they prefer the performance of another on the night.
jaybs
30-05-2007
The people who pot on "forums" like this I tell you are a very small part of the VOTE CAST! - though they are the ones that can vote a few times!
trixiehobbit
30-05-2007
Originally Posted by Gillypoots:
“At the end of the day, with this type of reality show, I believe that many viewers vote for the singer or performance they like best on the night.

Although we all know that there is no doubt most of the contestests do have fan bases, I believe that many votes cast are what I would call floating votes. A contestant the viewer might vote for one week, could easily lose that vote the following week because the viewer decides that they prefer the performance of another on the night.”


And I'm one.
Liked Craig since the first night - sweetness had diddly squat to do with it - he was the one that would've done ticked all my boxes for casting Joseph. None of the contestants left are unable or unworthy - and if they were you would question why the judges selected them for Joseph in the first place.

My second vote started with Lee, and continued til Keith took it - and Lee was so far in his Joseph zone by then I lost track of him. I did want Daniel to take it the following week, but alas he went. Then Ben started to impress me but last week was just for Craig. I won't vote until final night now but my votes on the night will go to the one I have in my mind as Joseph. Lee,Keith and Ben havethe edge over Lewis imo but with such personality he'll be on our screens again somewhere I would think
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