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I'm not obsessive Cleo1 and I do not attack others as everyone is allowed opinions, look back at the thread please "Specsavers"
Everyone needs to calm down at times, all I ask is for a level playing field for all the contestants and I like many others here are now most "Cynical"
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Lees voice is more suitedto blend well with josh's during that song - not saying keith hasn't got a lovely voice, he has, but it wouldn't have worked as well as part of a duet with josh. think thats the bottom line really, josh picked who he thought would work best with him in the duet.
Listening to Lee last night, and listening to Keith singing the same song on youtube, I personally feel that If they all had to sing the song on their own that Keith would do better than Lee. I have no problem with Josh picking Lee, I do have a problem with people concluding that Lee has the better voice because Josh chose him. |
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does the show get repeated
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Josh Groban was born in 1981, but when you stand at his side he does look older, perhaps he is more mature? for his age - Lee looks far older than Josh, I don't know if it is Lee's hair at the front that does not help, his face also looks worn not fresh like Ben Keith and Lewis! - I keep going back to the original criteria that ALW was looking for someone young and poppy like Justin Timberlake?
I also think Keith looks younger than Lewis, even though there's 2 years between them (which at that age do make a difference). However much I like Keith, I'm not sure he would be right - he hasn't got the look - and nowhere near the 'poppy' feel that Justin Timberlake has and certainly not the stage presence. Keith just looks like a little boy. But he's got a great voice. In fact, he's just the opposite of JT - Keith has a fantastic voice, but can't dance & looks like a geeky 12 yr old, whereas JT can dance brilliantly, hasn't got the best voice in the world, but looks quite nice To compare Keith to Justin Timberlake makes me laugh
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I'm not obsessive Cleo1 and I do not attack others as everyone is allowed opinions, look back at the thread please "Specsavers"
Everyone needs to calm down at times, all I ask is for a level playing field for all the contestants and I like many others here are now most "Cynical" |
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This show, has been a total farce right from the start tbh. Lee Mead HAS already won this show. As in all honesty, he shouldn't be in the competition in the first place, as he's a pro singer/actor already and not an amateur.
He deserves to win though, as the others (except for Keith) DON'T deserve to win, as they are hopeless. |
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If the producers are pushing the show in Lee's direction then I don't blame them. They have millions of pounds riding on the show being a success and, frankly, Lee is the only one left who can deliver them that success.
The typical theatre-goer isn't a teenage girl - it's an older, wiser demographic who has seen many other stunning performances in their time and won't put up with something second-rate in the West End. The critics will not be kind to anything short of brilliant. They will be lining up to take pot-shots at the show. They would have loved to trash The Sound of Music, they don't like the idea of casting-by-TV, but Connie Fisher was so good they could only praise it. As someone who goes to the theatre two or three times a month, and has seen half of what's currently on at the West End, I can promise you that Lee is the only one who will keep the show still going this time next year. In that respect, it wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that they rigged Josh's decision to let Lee sing. For a start he was the only one who had the right voice for it, and Josh wasn't there to give them support, guys, he was there to promote himself and sell a few albums!! So he would have agreed to do whatever. It would have sounded slightly embarassing for the others to have been singing with him, they just don't have the voices. But I think ALW has realised that the success of Joseph rests with Lee. Ben doesn't have the vocal ability, Lewis is a wet blanket, Keith is too annoying and childish, and Craig is too cheesy. Rather than create a backlash for Lee over favouritism, I think it is far more likely that the performance of You Raise Me Up will have made a lot of people think "wow!" in a way that none of the others have done, and will generate more votes for Lee next week. Also, the edited VT showing the others being disappointed, may have been intended to show the others in a bad light (you never know how they're editing these things and what they choose to cut out) but Bill Kenwright's sarcasting barb at them afterwards - "my one abiding memory of this show will be the support you showed Lee, well done guys" - made it clear that the judges genuinely think there's some resentment going on behind the scenes. Of course they'll be jealous of the attention that Lee's getting, but they are also proving to be ungracious and not very good actors - come on guys you could at least pretend to be happy for him - you're auditioning for an acting job, after all! Showbiz is about putting on a united front no matter how you're feeling. People who lose at the Oscars are obviously gutted but those who scowl get labelled as ungracious. Pop stars slating each other in public may be an attention-grabbing tactic, used because the genre is so utterly disposeable and has little to do with talent, but that kind of thing doesn't wash in other artistic circles where talent counts for more and what goes around comes around. Sorry for the rant but I feel AWL is entirely justified in pushing Lee on the show as it is his investment on the line, and people who know theatre will know that Lee is the right choice. I have total faith in the GBP to follow his lead and choose the right Joseph. Before anyone starts bleating about this being opinion and not fact, of course it's all my opinion, but I honestly expect Lee to still be on the West End stage in 5 years time, and 10 years time, not in Joseph but in other leading roles, he will have a wonderful career after this. I don't feel the others have the necessary stage presence to hold a show. Well written could not have put it better myself! |
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Thank you Snippy.
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I think Lee looked younger than Josh - probably the stubble. I think Lee is very fresh faced - young looking without looking like a boy,
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I never attacked you with the specsavers thread - in fact that wasn't even my post! i just agreed with a funny post someone else had put. You do attack forum members as you attacked me with your post, which was irrelivant and nasty for no reason!
No, it was mine. Attack?? Isn't that a little strong? Spectacles at 20 paces is it?? ![]() It was merely a light hearted comment in response to some pretty derogatory remarks about Lee's appearance.
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No, it was mine. Attack?? Isn't that a little strong?
Spectacles at 20 paces is it?? ![]() |
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sorry - i thought your post was lighthearted and fun, not insulting. but becuase i agreed with it, i got attacked, no need i felt!
No need at all, cleo. Sorry you got the backlash from my post. Seems my sense of humour isn't shared by one and all. *hugs to cleo* |
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No need at all, cleo. Sorry you got the backlash from my post. Seems my sense of humour isn't shared by one and all.
*hugs to cleo*
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It would appear that the singling out of one of the Josephs does have the potential to backfire But it isn't Lee's responsibility, and you can hardly blame the producers - the opportunity to have a star of Josh Grogan's calibre not only appear on the show, but to participate would be irresistible.Quote:
Thats a matter of opinion.
Keith has already sang that song. The quality is poor, but in my opinionI I thought he more than did the song justice (and moreso than Lee) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMP3AL6tzrU ps. and as for performance, I rather preferred Lee's understated version - granted, Keith's did not have the advantages of BBC producers etc, but it is a bit suspect - did he loose his footie scarf? |
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I am a dedicated Lee fan but I can appreciate Keiths voice. But I think what he lacks is the experience to give a controlled performance as Lee did with Josh Groban. With a few more years of experience he would definately get there but the difference in experience was obvious between the two.
I'm still not sure that ALW wants Lee. He knows he's good but is he really what ALW is looking for. I think he would have Keith if he could trust to keep his focus for the duration. |
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It would appear that the singling out of one of the Josephs does have the potential to backfire
But it isn't Lee's responsibility, and you can hardly blame the producers - the opportunity to have a star of Josh Grogan's calibre not only appear on the show, but to participate would be irresistible.Vocally I think that is a good performance of the song (giving some leeway for the quality of the clip), but this was not to be a solo performance! I was stunned with the control and quality of Lee's - I had rated him as a singer and performer but this lifted him to another level for me. Hopefully, most viewers and voters will see the same thing and it will not breed any adverse affect borne of resentment next week. ps. and as for performance, I rather preferred Lee's understated version - granted, Keith's did not have the advantages of BBC producers etc, but it is a bit suspect - did he loose his footie scarf? |
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It would appear that the singling out of one of the Josephs does have the potential to backfire
But it isn't Lee's responsibility, and you can hardly blame the producers - the opportunity to have a star of Josh Grogan's calibre not only appear on the show, but to participate would be irresistible.Vocally I think that is a good performance of the song (giving some leeway for the quality of the clip), but this was not to be a solo performance! I was stunned with the control and quality of Lee's - I had rated him as a singer and performer but this lifted him to another level for me. Hopefully, most viewers and voters will see the same thing and it will not breed any adverse affect borne of resentment next week. ps. and as for performance, I rather preferred Lee's understated version - granted, Keith's did not have the advantages of BBC producers etc, but it is a bit suspect - did he loose his footie scarf? |
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Brian Kennedy's original version of 'You Raise Me Up' is just completely haunting and really puts all the other versions in the shade
![]() The others should really have used their acting skills and pretended to be pleased just like in the Oscars
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Brian Kennedy's original version of 'You Raise Me Up' is just completely haunting and really puts all the other versions in the shade
![]() The others should really have used their acting skills and pretended to be pleased just like in the Oscars ![]() As I said above, I think the contestants should be given an equal amount of coverage - and the same chances to perform in front of the ones who are going to vote for them. Its more of a level playing field then. |
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Brian Kennedy's original version of 'You Raise Me Up' is just completely haunting and really puts all the other versions in the shade
![]() The others should really have used their acting skills and pretended to be pleased just like in the Oscars ![]()
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Yea but in all fairness non of the others would have done the song justice.
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No, Keith looks like Orville
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I agree with you that people should not go against Lee for winning and I hope it doesnīt go that way ether - but I hope people donīt favour him more because of the performance either - since the others didnīt even get a chance to compete and that would put Lee at an unfair advantage.
I know what you mean. If the idea of Josh choosing someone to sing with him had been put to me, I'd have said it would be little unfair because of the additional exposure. But, this is reality TV and it is a competition. Competitions are about advantages and disadvantages. If Lee had not coped, placed in a direct comparison with JG, this could have been a very poisoned chalice. And after the event, I'm just glad I got the pleasure of seeing it ( and this from a woman who doesn't like the song - a bit too schmaltzy for me!) |
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I know what you mean. If the idea of Josh choosing someone to sing with him had been put to me, I'd have said it would be little unfair because of the additional exposure. But, this is reality TV and it is a competition. Competitions are about advantages and disadvantages. If Lee had not coped, placed in a direct comparison with JG, this could have been a very poisoned chalice. And after the event, I'm just glad I got the pleasure of seeing it ( and this from a woman who doesn't like the song - a bit too schmaltzy for me!)
Very well said, dulcinea.
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