If he is singing at all, it's extremely half-assed singing. Now that there are so few of them and they've lost Daniel, who was so strong) every voice matters. You can hear Lee so clearly in that clip. Keith has a very strong voice, if he were singing properly there is no way Lee would have dominated like that. (I'm not complaining, I love Lee's voice, but Keith shouldn't be allowed to get away with coasting.)

But that's bad technique....he would need to improve on that if he wants to be on a West End stage! A lazy mouth is no good for a leading man.

**rushing off to look closely at Lee's beautiful mouth for openess**

agree with ya there hun

I agree - if he manages to put the effort in to open his mouth when singing his solo performances - why does he feel the group performances are not worthy of him making the same effort? I am not a ben fan but at least he and all the others infact make as big a effort in the group performances as they do in the solo ones.

lol *runs off too* I do love looking at lees open mouth

I know it's bad technique LOL I have been told off for it but it can be fixed and seeing as they have just been through the stress of results etc and losing one of their friends (they are probably all close by now) then you can let them off if they are not fully concentrating on their technique

Also when you see Keith and Lee at the start of Craigs close every door Lee isn't opening his mouth any more than Keith!

in my opinion they should treat every performance including all group song ie close everydoor as if its the last song the will ever sing, if they dont bother why should the public bother to watch someone on the westends if they that cant be bothered to open there mouth a sing.

so why does he only "not bother" to do good technique in the group numbers?

well said

but is it all the group no.s or just close every door?

Being a leading man in the west end is pretty stressful, so I'm not letting him off anything. He would need to learn how to concentrate on his technique no matter how difficult the situation.

The difference is that you can hear Lee, you can't hear Keith.

I can forgive a little emotion....I am not completely heartless - honest!

I find it difficult to forgive laziness though. Keith is being offered the opportunity of a lifetime and he has to give 100% all the time, to every song!

I am not a fan of some of the other Joesph's but I don't find myself questioning their commitment to the performance in the same way I do with Keith......sorry!

Yes but you were saying it is bad technique so surely this is as unacceptable for Lee as it is for Keith?

Thanks Cleo. Can i just say again that I was only imforming people of something that I had noticed and personally don't aprove of, I wasn;t doing it to be nasty,

I agree - no contestant should think that any performance isn't worthy of giving their all!

I don't mind you saying it. Didn't seem nasty to me...

I agree. I have tried to watch his performances and see the passion like Lee and Daniel show (ed) but i persoanlly can't see it with Keith espically now after relaising his lack of sinigng on the poor poor joesph and close everydoor.

I know your not being nasty - it is a good point to raise, and i think it is unfair on the other contestants if one of them isn't pulling their weight during group performances - they should all try their best to put on a good show.

If Lee does it then it is a fault you are correct!

However, (and I am not being biased) it is not something that is a continual problem for any of the other Joseph's - Lee included. Keith seems to do it a bit too often! He does have a lazy mouth!

I agree. It is something that has been bugging me for a while too. I know for a fact that Zoe always told the Marias to give it their all in all the group performances (particularly singoffs and their exits) because this is a showcase of their talent and it maybe their last chance to shine.

One of the (many) reason I wasn't keen on Siobhan last year was her awful efforts in the group performances.

Its unacceptable that Keith is not putting 100% into every performance at this stage imo. Its unfair on those who are pulling their weight.

ok thanks. i agree all I ask for is everyone to join in and try their best but not to even bother to join in I think is poor




agreed but not to sing on 6 occasions is shocking

Well personally I wasn't saying it was bad technique, I'm with Snippy I think he's just being lazy. I was basically saying that as a West End leading man, you are responsible for going out there and putting on the performance. There are no excuses to be made, so it doesn't matter whether you're stressed and emotional and your technique deserts you or you just plain couldn't be bothered, if you don't deliver, then you're not going to cut it as a leading man. Ultimately you could hear Lee, you couldn't hear Keith, so even if Lee's technique wasn't perfect, he delivered and that's what's important.

I agree with your point

In music laziness and bad technique run together very closely. However both can be fixed. Fair enough, you could hear Lee but it is still bad technique and you cannot progress properly as a musician unless you correct it.