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ALW video diary 26th
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tellyaddict82
27-05-2007
http://www.andrewlloydwebber.com/sec...7&section=news
Phil2003
27-05-2007
He doesn't exactly sound over-confident about his final 4, does he?!
mag99
27-05-2007
Hmmm ALW not sure about the final four Who on earth did he really want then? Does anyone think that he's regretting some previous eimination cough Daniel cough I say this as a Lee supporter who actually likes all of the Josephs that are left.
tellyaddict82
27-05-2007
Originally Posted by Phil2003:
“He doesn't exactly sound over-confident about his final 4, does he?!”

No, me thinks he thinks he made a mistake last week. Even though Daniel was not his ideal Joseph, he would have been guarenteed consistant performances.

But whats done is done.
NoahsAark
27-05-2007
Originally Posted by tellyaddict82:
“No, me thinks he thinks he made a mistake last week. Even though Daniel was not his ideal Joseph, he would have been guarenteed consistant performances.

But whats done is done.”

From the start of the final 12 I doubt anyone would have had these 4 as the final line up.

I guess when who goes through and who doesn't is manipulated to a certain degree (by ALWs choices in the sing-offs) then he only has himself to blame for the 4 he is left with.

I can really only see Lee and Ben carrying it off ...

It's down to the public now - maybe that's why he's worried
froglet
27-05-2007
Three out of the four could be Joseph................. I wonder who is the poor guy that he's written off?
jcello
27-05-2007
If he's unhappy with the final four, he has only himself to blame. He should have kept Seamus and Daniel, and cut Ben and Lewis loose.
cherri
27-05-2007
Originally Posted by froglet:
“Three out of the four could be Joseph................. I wonder who is the poor guy that he's written off?”

Did he not say a couple of weeks ago he thought they had 4 potential Josephs? So he has got rid of one of them then?
Phil2003
27-05-2007
Originally Posted by froglet:
“Three out of the four could be Joseph................. I wonder who is the poor guy that he's written off?”

I suspect Lewis is the one he's written off, but I actually think only Lee is up to it. Lewis and Keith maybe, but not Ben.
froglet
27-05-2007
Originally Posted by Phil2003:
“I suspect Lewis is the one he's written off, but I actually think only Lee is up to it. Lewis and Keith maybe, but not Ben.”

Going on what we see I agree that Lee is the only one I would be totally confident about right now.

Lewis will be able to do it and a lot more, but he needs time to mature.

Keith has a great voice but I'm not sure that he he is really a musical theatre performer. A recording artist perhaps of a "my mum loves him" kind. Cute lad, big voice etc.

I just don't think that Ben is a good enough singer unless you give him something where prescence and confidence does half the job for him.
Rachey27
27-05-2007
I hope ALW IS regretting his decision to get rid of Daniel last week, because he should be.

I just hope the GBP vote Lee to win, otherwise ALW should be panicking
One and Only
27-05-2007
Originally Posted by Rachey27:
“I hope ALW IS regretting his decision to get rid of Daniel last week, because he should be.

I just hope the GBP vote Lee to win, otherwise ALW should be panicking”


I so agree with you.

Only Lee has the strength now to be consistent.

Imagine booking tickets for a Tuesday and a knackered 'wannabee' gets up on that stage.!!!!!!!!!!

Only Lee (and a sadly missed Daniel) should have been real contenders.

The inexpierenced 'pretty boys' just aren't up to the role........and ALW knows it too.

Perhaps Lewis et al would have looked cute on the posters but they just don't have the ability/experience to hack it.













imho.......
Rachey27
27-05-2007
But im worried that the "pretty boys" will get the publics votes. I mean, imagine if Lewis won? He would be on stage every night SOBBING like a baby. I wouldnt pay to see that.

I saw Daniels exit interview and he said he thinks Lee should win because the public would feel confident that he could do the show, and its true. Lee is now the only one i would feel confident in.

Well, apart from Daniel
Rachey27
27-05-2007
Oh and - I think Lee would look GREAT on the posters, imagine driving around london seeing Lees face everywhere
froglet
27-05-2007
Originally Posted by Rachey27:
“But im worried that the "pretty boys" will get the publics votes. I mean, imagine if Lewis won? He would be on stage every night SOBBING like a baby. I wouldnt pay to see that.”

I'm not disagreeing that Lewis needs more experience (17 remember- a lot younger than Keith) but I think that's harsh. All his performances have been controlled and there hasn't been a trace of the young vulnerable lad there. I don't think for a second he'd be up there crying. They teach them better stage skills than that at Italia Conti.

He needs the next few years to go through LAMDA or somewhere similar. When he learns to use that vulnerability to free him up, and he will- it was starting to come together last night- he is going to be very good indeed.

I just wish they hadn't voted out Daniel. I would just be pootling along happily watching Lee , looking forward to seeing him win and admiring the way the younger lads are coming on in leaps and bounds................. but I'm worried. There's almost certainly no need to be, but I am.
cleo1
27-05-2007
Originally Posted by Rachey27:
“But im worried that the "pretty boys" will get the publics votes. I mean, imagine if Lewis won? He would be on stage every night SOBBING like a baby. I wouldnt pay to see that.

I saw Daniels exit interview and he said he thinks Lee should win because the public would feel confident that he could do the show, and its true. Lee is now the only one i would feel confident in.

Well, apart from Daniel ”

I have never noticed him "sobbing" during his solo or group performances - so why would he do so on stage if he got the part? i personally don't think hes ready yet, he is only 17 tough, and think he will improve with experience.
jaybs
27-05-2007
I still hope that the public will remember the criteria for this version of JOSEPH! and BEN - KEITH or LEWIS fit the bill.

We don't want someone who has appeared in Joseph in the West End that makes the whole aim and journey of ADWD completely pointless.
tellyaddict82
27-05-2007
Originally Posted by jaybs:
“I still hope that the public will remember the criteria for this version of JOSEPH! and BEN - KEITH or LEWIS fit the bill.

We don't want someone who has appeared in Joseph in the West End that makes the whole aim and journey of ADWD completely pointless.”

And i hope the public remembers how harsh the theatre ctitics are and dont send a poor lamb to the slaughter just because they dont understand what real hard work, dedication and tough skin is needed to be a West End leading man!
Selena
27-05-2007
Originally Posted by jaybs:
“We don't want someone who has appeared in Joseph in the West End that makes the whole aim and journey of ADWD completely pointless.”

You mean that you dont want someone who has appeared in Joseph in the West End. Dont try and make out that everyone has the same opinion as yourself.
Snippy
27-05-2007
Originally Posted by tellyaddict82:
“And i hope the public remembers how harsh the theatre ctitics are and dont send a poor lamb to the slaughter just because they dont understand what real hard work, dedication and tough skin is needed to be a West End leading man!”

Here here Telly!
cleo1
27-05-2007
Originally Posted by tellyaddict82:
“And i hope the public remembers how harsh the theatre ctitics are and dont send a poor lamb to the slaughter just because they dont understand what real hard work, dedication and tough skin is needed to be a West End leading man!”

I agree - its a harsh reality for them if they cannot meet the standard required they will be torn apart by the critics and ALW won't protect them!
froglet
27-05-2007
Originally Posted by tellyaddict82:
“And i hope the public remembers how harsh the theatre ctitics are and dont send a poor lamb to the slaughter just because they dont understand what real hard work, dedication and tough skin is needed to be a West End leading man!”


The worst thing that could possibly happen to any of those young ones is to be given the part when they are not ready for it. That's ALW's dilemma and that's why Lee and Daniel were put in. He does want one of the young ones but can't afford to let them have the part unless he is 100% sure that they are ready. That's a hard one for us to judge, given the limited amount that we are shown.
tellyaddict82
27-05-2007
Originally Posted by froglet:
“The worst thing that could possibly happen to any of those young ones is to be given the part when they are not ready for it. That's ALW's dilemma and that's why Lee and Daniel were put in. He does want one of the young ones but can't afford to let them have the part unless he is 100% sure that they are ready. That's a hard one for us to judge, given the limited amount that we are shown.”

I agree and thats why there was such an uproar over Daniels departure, although most, even me agree that Daniel is not really a Joseph, the true theatre goers know how tough the industry really is
Rachey27
27-05-2007
Originally Posted by cleo1:
“I have never noticed him "sobbing" during his solo or group performances - so why would he do so on stage if he got the part? i personally don't think hes ready yet, he is only 17 tough, and think he will improve with experience.”

Maybe he doesnt cry when he sings, but weve all seen him crying PLENTY during the VT. I just dont think hes emotionally strong enough for the part yet. I actually really like him, ive had a soft spot for him since the beginning, but in my opinion hes too young and too emotional at the moment
Electrat
27-05-2007
I have to say I'm wondering if ALW is trying to put a little drama back into the proceedings because he may be worried that the audience think it's turned into a one horse race. That doesn't make for particularly exciting telly and he wants to keep the hopes of all the Josephs alive by being circumspect.
To me it's either that or as others have said, he knows that Lee could pull off the part but he is almost too obvious a choice. He was looking for someone with a younger, poppy feel but the other three don't look like they could cut the mustard 8 shows a week.
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