Lee's Already Been In Joseph - Directed By Bill Kenwright

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sadie1

29-05-2007

Originally Posted by cleo1:
“no - there is every chance that he didn't - sure the actual lead, but the understudy, sure thats what his staff are for.”

Phantom is his show he d have known.

Eryndil

29-05-2007

Originally Posted by sadie1:
“Phantom is his show he d have known.”

But ALW has written many shows and there are versions of them on all over the country and abroad. He can't possibly know every actor in every show, especially when they are not the leads. I know he is 'the Lord' but he's not omniscient!

AmberMal

29-05-2007

hello people!! ALW wasnt at the original auditions for ADWD so whether he knew or not he wasnt there!! his input started proper after the Joseph school

sadie1

29-05-2007

Originally Posted by Snippy:
“He may have wrote the musical along with Tim Rice, but I am quite sure he does not have a hand in every production of Jospeh all across the world! I think we have to realise how many productions of Joseph there are world-wide. How can we possibly imagine that ALW has working knowledge of them all, Lee starred in a touring production - it wasn't even the West End.

ALW was not the producer or director of this tour.......just the writer! Do you think before he died Arthur Miller, the playwright cast every production of every one of his plays world wide.

Have some sense people! ”

yes your right ALW was ent the producer of the Joseph tour Lee was in but Bill Kenright was , I think thats why people think its unfair that Lee has had major rolls in shows that 2 judges have been involved in.

Eryndil

30-05-2007

Originally Posted by sadie1:
“yes your right ALW was ent the producer of the Joseph tour Lee was in but Bill Kenright was , I think thats why people think its unfair that Lee has had major rolls in shows that 2 judges have been involved in.”

Oh well, lets not start again about ALW's 'involvement'. We're just going round in circles now! I suppose the concept of 'major role' is subjective as well. However, I don't think that there will ever be agreement on this issue.

sadie1

30-05-2007

Originally Posted by Snippy:
“I don't agree with you at all...please see previous post! ”

Not having a go here I think Lees OK and its obvious hes going to win, but even all the hardened Lee fans must see hes at an advantage to the others having worked for Bill kenright and ALW.

Eryndil

30-05-2007

Originally Posted by sadie1:
“Not having a go here I think Lees OK and its obvious hes going to win, but even all the hardened Lee fans must see hes at an advantage to the others having worked for Bill kenright and ALW.”

Well, no, I don't see that. Bill certainly doesn't seem biased as he has had some very enthusiastic things to say about other Josephs. Also, it's the public vote that decides in the end and the public are unpredictable. I'm sorry that I keep disagreeing with you but I don't think either of us are going to change our opinions.

Phil2003

30-05-2007

I don't see that it's an advantage at all. I remember it being mentioned in the first live show that Lee had auditioned for Bill before and he said he'd never seen Lee as more than an understudy... so you could say Lee had a harder job than the others, as he had to overturn's Bill previous thoughts.

dogwalker

30-05-2007

Originally Posted by Phil2003:
“I don't see that it's an advantage at all. I remember it being mentioned in the first live show that Lee had auditioned for Bill before and he said he'd never seen Lee as more than an understudy... so you could say Lee had a harder job than the others, as he had to overturn's Bill previous thoughts.”

Perhaps Bill is right and that is all Lee really was and still is - an understudy!

Eryndil

30-05-2007

Originally Posted by dogwalker:
“Perhaps Bill is right and that is all Lee really was and still is - an understudy!”

Well, Bill seems to have changed his mind now! Still, I know some people have a different opinion.

cleo1

30-05-2007

Originally Posted by sadie1:
“Phantom is his show he d have known.”

thats extremely naive if you think that. oh, and you are also saying that ALW lied for no reason at the beginning of the show?! don't think so somehow

cleo1

30-05-2007

no - but then again i don't think everyone feels the need for conspirace theroies along the lines of "so and so's got an unfair advantage", "the judges are mean and want whats his name to win" etc. its the public voting, not ALW or bill kenwright.

nats18

30-05-2007

What's the big deal about him already having played the Pharaoh. I had this discussion with my mum when she watched an episode cos she really doesn't like this type of stuff. Anyway we both agreed that having already played a part doesn't really matter it just means you know the songs slightly better.

If anything it makes it harder for you because you've got to change the judges perception of you which they will have made from before. Then in the publics eyes it could backfire on you as your seen as professional and not a good choice as the public always prefer the underdogs.

Quizmike

30-05-2007

A friend of mine was in Joseph in the West End and never even met ALW.

cleo1

30-05-2007

Originally Posted by nats18:
“What's the big deal about him already having played the Pharaoh. I had this discussion with my mum when she watched an episode cos she really doesn't like this type of stuff. Anyway we both agreed that having already played a part doesn't really matter it just means you know the songs slightly better.

If anything it makes it harder for you because you've got to change the judges perception of you which they will have made from before. Then in the publics eyes it could backfire on you as your seen as professional and not a good choice as the public always prefer the underdogs.”

well said

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