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The Apprentice-Week 10-May 30th-Episode Discussion Thread
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Captain kebab
31-05-2007
Originally Posted by aquaplex:
“I still think that Simon is likely to be a gonner in the interview stage at Sir Alan knows it, just as he did with Paul in series 1”

I think he's gunning for him. He's young, adaptable, fresh faced and does talk some sense. He can be molded and shows respect. He was crap tonight but so was the other hot favourite, Kristina.

Tre doesn't stand a chance because he's too keen to fight rather than learn...great character that he is. The only one that tells it like it is, he's going to be a bulldog of a boss to someone oneday.

Katie is a horse, but a very shrewd one. However, I'm guessing the honchos next week will dig the dirt a bit and she'd be a thorn in the side for anyone above and below her in the command chain. She'd have been great for bringing down the gestapo or something in the war!.

Lohit may not have the stellar personality of some of the others but he is very articulate, precise and has a good head. Probably good as a manager...maybe not so much as the final choice apprentice. But I would definitely be keen to employ him in a higher capacity. He reminds me of Tuan Le in his approach.

Kristina is pretty hard, has a good head, knows her stuff, can operate well alone and would be a good choice IMO. She can be a bit defeatist and negative but we've seen that from all of them and, frankly, in this game I think if you go around looking permenatly positive then you're lying. She'd be my first choice if I was a podgy middle-aged multimillionaire with a beard.

Naomi....well she's gone but she was the hottie so goodbye eye-candy.
fannyadams
31-05-2007
I enjoyed the trampoline legs being screwed and unscrewed, and I agree it will go down in history as a funny TV moment. I think the right candidate went last night. Naomi was pretty but a little ineffectual.
Marmite Baby
31-05-2007
I'm still feeling sore from laughing so much last night. Why didn't Naomi or Tre tell Simon what it was looking like?

I fear Katie might reach the final now as she may excel in the interview process.
Chilli Dragon
31-05-2007
Originally Posted by Marmite Baby:
“I'm still feeling sore from laughing so much last night. Why didn't Naomi or Tre tell Simon what it was looking like?

I fear Katie might reach the final now as she may excel in the interview process.”

I'm not sure she will. I think she may put backs up. (Although, all the interviewers are men, aren't they?) Either way, she won't win the show. Surely even Sir Alan can see she only wants a media career?
Little Ali
31-05-2007
Originally Posted by Ethereal:
“It annoyed me that nobody brought up how silent Simon was when he was meant to be instructing Naomi and Tre. And then when he lied and said that the phone calls were busy when they weren't.
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Sir Alan did actually point out that he wasn't bothered about the presenting/directing part of the task - it was product selection he was basing his criticisms on.

Simon picked the wheelchair - dodgy choice but his reasoning as he put it in the boardroom had some sense to it. It did sell too, and two sales made up half their total.

Naomi picked the decoupage squares - although she had good reasoning (they were apparently quite hard to get hold of in that size) she did not consider that it would be Simon selling them, and should have at least thought about whether he even knew what they were.

Tre was pretty much invisible, except for his comments on the trampoline (again picked by Naomi) which were spot on - they're not the "hot item" they once were in the world of keep-fit.


On the basis of that task only, Simon should easily have gone (and he obviously thought so himself, he'd given up until SAS picked on the other two for product selection) but overall Naomi was just as bad if you discount the presenting.

Going by previous tasks, I would probably have fired Naomi too - let's face it, nobody came out of this one looking remotely good, not even the winners!
*Laura*
31-05-2007
Originally Posted by Little Ali:
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Going by previous tasks, I would probably have fired Naomi too - let's face it, nobody came out of this one looking remotely good, not even the winners!”

I think that's what's been wrong with this series. We've seen a lot of winning teams scraping through on mediocre performances.
vikki-croucher
31-05-2007
Hi,
Please let me know if I am missing something, but the losing team made £900, right, but Sir Alan fired Naomi because of her bad product choices. But they said that they only sold 2 wheel chairs which at £200 each only makes £400 and the wheel chair was Simons choice. Does that not mean that of the products Naomi picked they made £500 meaning that her products not only sold in greater volumes, but also made them more money than Simons choices? I can’t work it out! Obviously like I said if i'm missing something then please let me know.
chadhugo
31-05-2007
Last night with Simon and those trampoline legs was the funniest thing I have seen in ages - classic tv!!!
Plant
31-05-2007
The only two worth hiring are Lohit and Katie. Most firms rely on repeat business and they are the only two candidates you can envisage people wanting to go back to. Kristina manages to bullshit her way through the tasks but can you imagine any client going back to her once they've discovered she's lied to them? Tre and Simon just come across as immature and incompetent.
tatotal
31-05-2007
It drives me mad that people think Simon is somehow good candidate. He has accomplished nothing on this show (was simply lucky with the wheelchairs) so far but seems to be unduly favoured by Sir Alan. He is a duplicitious reptile.

Naomi is a good sales person, a far superior sales person to Simon. We only had to look at last week's task to see that. Sir Alan has a very short memory.
Cavegirl
31-05-2007
wasn't Simon the PM for the 'buying ten things task' where he won by 97p and didn't bother haggling for deals?
horsesmouth
31-05-2007
Is it just me or was Sir Alan Sugar patronising to Naomi calling her a 'young girl' even though she was 25?
Captain kebab
31-05-2007
Originally Posted by horsesmouth:
“Is it just me or was Sir Alan Sugar patronising to Naomi calling her a 'young girl' even though she was 25?”


I'm almost a decade on from that so she seems young to me. To Sir Beard she must seem barely out of Barbies.
Ethereal
31-05-2007
Originally Posted by vikki-croucher:
“Hi,
Please let me know if I am missing something, but the losing team made £900, right, but Sir Alan fired Naomi because of her bad product choices. But they said that they only sold 2 wheel chairs which at £200 each only makes £400 and the wheel chair was Simons choice. Does that not mean that of the products Naomi picked they made £500 meaning that her products not only sold in greater volumes, but also made them more money than Simons choices? I can’t work it out! Obviously like I said if i'm missing something then please let me know.”

I'm not sure but Sir Alan said that none of the trampolines sold which was one of Naomi's product selections. I don't think the graphic sticker things sold many either. I think the rest of the money was made from Simon's other product, the hair removal device. I could be wrong though.
vikki-croucher
31-05-2007
ahh this was bugging me like mad! totally forgot about the hair remover. Thanks i can sleep easy now. hehehe
ah83
31-05-2007
Originally Posted by Woodbeam:
“Hmmm I doubt whether Katie who already has 2 children and Katrina who has an 18 year old are likely to live up to the stereotypical myth that women of childbearing age are not reliable.”

I bet Tre would disagree though
Dictamus
31-05-2007
Simon's getting away with it because he's posh and went to Cambridge. He was absolutely terrible last night and completely froze under pressure. He's been clueless and useless before but never as bad as this. He might have thought through his reasons for choosing the wheelchair but they were still pretty stupid and he was rescued because Naomi was able to sell it, nothing to do with it being a good choice of product.

He also seems to come from the old school of sexism, talking about how a woman would "assist" a male presenter when Naomi was streets ahead of both him and Tre at presenting. What a wassock.
Miss Haversham
31-05-2007
I laughed until I cried last night at Simon - great, classic TV
williams96
31-05-2007
Crazy, completely crazy. Take the laughing aside and focus on what they are there for and there is no way anyone but Simon should have gone. I have a feeling had Tre brought him into the boardroom last week he would have been gone.

Disappointing.
rosieeee
31-05-2007
Originally Posted by Miss Haversham:
“I laughed until I cried last night at Simon - great, classic TV”

it was the funniest thing I have seen on tv for a long time - amazed that his back up team didn't tell him - even the staff at Ideal World or whatever it's called were hysterical laughing! Brilliant.
gamercraig
31-05-2007
Originally Posted by Miss Haversham:
“I laughed until I cried last night at Simon - great, classic TV”

Better than something the so-called genuis Gervais could come up with!
vidalia
31-05-2007
Originally Posted by xboxcraig:
“Better than something the so-called genuis Gervais could come up with!”

But if he had have come up with a character like Simon, everybody would have said no, it's going too far, nobody is that bad.
MetalMonkey
31-05-2007
I dont want to upset or disrespect anyone but who in Gods name watches these programmes and buy that stuff in the quantities SAS said are bought each hour?

I am a sucker for buying crap but never off the telly.
nwbrfc
31-05-2007
Mavis of course!!!!
vidalia
31-05-2007
Originally Posted by MetalMonkey:
“I dont want to upset or disrespect anyone but who in Gods name watches these programmes and buy that stuff in the quantities SAS said are bought each hour?

I am a sucker for buying crap but never off the telly.”

Why is it okay to buy crap from another source but not off the telly?
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