Did I hear that right?
Cos that would surely put him way higher than the top 1% of the population?
Cos that would surely put him way higher than the top 1% of the population?
Simon's IQ is 174?!
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There's no way Simon's IQ is that high, that's higher than Einstein's I think. It was probably 125, that would make more sense.
Your IQ score is only correct if you have sat a inviligated exam. Maybe he has done an online one over and over again till he got his score that high!
If he is 174 though that is excellent.
If he is 174 though that is excellent.
But what test did he do to get that high a score? According to mensa the highest score an adult can get on the test that scores the highest is 161. Confused. 
http://www.mensa.org.uk/iq-levels/
http://www.mensa.org.uk/iq-levels/
Originally Posted by *Skylight*:
“But what test did he do to get that high a score? According to mensa the highest score an adult can get on the test that scores the highest is 161. Confused.
http://www.mensa.org.uk/iq-levels/”
“But what test did he do to get that high a score? According to mensa the highest score an adult can get on the test that scores the highest is 161. Confused.
http://www.mensa.org.uk/iq-levels/”
They keep on changing the numbers - on the BBC quizes the nation averages 120 which is a nonsense as 100 was meant to be average - that might just make sense if brighter people did the test and the stupid ignored it but their experts claim it is now average. The range did use to go past 160 though.
He's got a good economics degree which suggests mathematical skills including lots of algebra and he comes from a background which would make him good with words.You could do IQ tests with that . I don't see much ability to analyse though -he's not seen lots of problems, backed team leaders who were sinking , collapsed under pressure and made bad decisions himself.
He could have done an American test. When I was 16 I did Mensa and General Motors' 3 day recruitment programme close together, my GM (US test) score was nearly 20 points higher. I was offered a year free membership of Mensa, but as my Dad said at the time, why do you want to join a club where all you have in common is a test score?
NWB, as you said he has a good Economics degree and it is from Cambridge, not easy to get there. I still think he is a useless kn*b as he has not demonstrated any particular talent at anything beyond showing off.
NWB, as you said he has a good Economics degree and it is from Cambridge, not easy to get there. I still think he is a useless kn*b as he has not demonstrated any particular talent at anything beyond showing off.
Originally Posted by *Skylight*:
“But what test did he do to get that high a score? According to mensa the highest score an adult can get on the test that scores the highest is 161. Confused.
http://www.mensa.org.uk/iq-levels/”
“But what test did he do to get that high a score? According to mensa the highest score an adult can get on the test that scores the highest is 161. Confused.
http://www.mensa.org.uk/iq-levels/”
Guess it depends when he did it - think they change the scoring over the years.
When I took the supervised Mensa test I got a score of 163.
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Still think it was a fluke quite frankly -
Originally Posted by jjpof:
“Shame he does not demonstrate it.”
“Shame he does not demonstrate it.”
Indeed. His common sense score must be much lower...
Originally Posted by marks thespot:
“Indeed. His common sense score must be much lower...”
“Indeed. His common sense score must be much lower...”
I was just going to say the same, you get plenty of extremely intelligent with no common sense at all. Sophie was similar. It sheds light on why SirAlan didn't fire him if he's got that on his cv.
I used to share a house with a girl like that. She was an absolute genius but kept leaving the gas oven on.
Originally Posted by Cavegirl:
“I was just going to say the same, you get plenty of extremely intelligent with no common sense at all. Sophie was similar. It sheds light on why SirAlan didn't fire him if he's got that on his cv.”
“I was just going to say the same, you get plenty of extremely intelligent with no common sense at all. Sophie was similar. It sheds light on why SirAlan didn't fire him if he's got that on his cv.”
I'd have thought SirAlan would be dismissive of a "paper qualification" like a Mensa score, he usually prefers actions to CV claims and MBAs etc.
I was a little put off by Simon's background, especially his fat cat father and grandfather. There's always something a bit shady about someone who describes themself as an "entrepreneur" (as his father did and as Simon does himself) - I feel like saying, yes, but what do you actually do?!
Originally Posted by marks thespot:
“I'd have thought SirAlan would be dismissive of a "paper qualification" like a Mensa score, he usually prefers actions to CV claims and MBAs etc.
I was a little put off by Simon's background, especially his fat cat father and grandfather. There's always something a bit shady about someone who describes themself as an "entrepreneur" (as his father did and as Simon does himself) - I feel like saying, yes, but what do you actually do?!”
“I'd have thought SirAlan would be dismissive of a "paper qualification" like a Mensa score, he usually prefers actions to CV claims and MBAs etc.
I was a little put off by Simon's background, especially his fat cat father and grandfather. There's always something a bit shady about someone who describes themself as an "entrepreneur" (as his father did and as Simon does himself) - I feel like saying, yes, but what do you actually do?!”
well there was something other than Simon's talent for putting legs on a trampoline that kept him in last week....
you can learn how to do IQ tests anyway
My dad's is 168 and there is no way Simon is anywhere near approaching him
My dad's is 168 and there is no way Simon is anywhere near approaching him
174? Well, 162 is top 0.5%, so...wow
For anyone interested in knowing, for Mensa, they send you a home test free of charge, and then you do that, and it's £10 to be marked. If you're in the top 5% of the country (I think it's something like 130+), then you are invited to sit an invigilated test at a venue nearby.
You go, and sit the test, which is really two tests I believe...and each one has several sections. They give you an amount of time for each one, but it's ridiculous...I'm talking, 30 questions in a minute!
Anyway, when your result comes through, you have two scores on each scale. To be inivited to join Mensa, you need to be in the top 2% on at least one of the scales.
For anyone interested in knowing, for Mensa, they send you a home test free of charge, and then you do that, and it's £10 to be marked. If you're in the top 5% of the country (I think it's something like 130+), then you are invited to sit an invigilated test at a venue nearby.
You go, and sit the test, which is really two tests I believe...and each one has several sections. They give you an amount of time for each one, but it's ridiculous...I'm talking, 30 questions in a minute!
Anyway, when your result comes through, you have two scores on each scale. To be inivited to join Mensa, you need to be in the top 2% on at least one of the scales.
anyone can be a member of Mensa, you just do a quiz in the Sunday Times, and they have regional testing centers, I did it here in Ireland. It's not that difficult, I'm a member .
And my IQ is only 135! There must be different standards or something?
.And my IQ is only 135! There must be different standards or something?
Originally Posted by sunsk8:
“Did I hear that right?
Cos that would surely put him way higher than the top 1% of the population?”
“Did I hear that right?
Cos that would surely put him way higher than the top 1% of the population?”
Yes and they showed his Mensa certificate on the spin off show and said he is in top 1%. People with high IQs do not neccessarily have buckets of common sense but no doubt he is very intelligent.
Personally i love Simon
Originally Posted by DeviousDevil:
“A high IQ would just annoy Sir Allan Sugar.”
“A high IQ would just annoy Sir Allan Sugar.”
He might think it means interest quotient.
Originally Posted by newkid30:
“anyone can be a member of Mensa, you just do a quiz in the Sunday Times, and they have regional testing centers, I did it here in Ireland. It's not that difficult, I'm a member .
And my IQ is only 135! There must be different standards or something?”
“anyone can be a member of Mensa, you just do a quiz in the Sunday Times, and they have regional testing centers, I did it here in Ireland. It's not that difficult, I'm a member
.And my IQ is only 135! There must be different standards or something?”
135 would put you in the top 2% on most IQ tests. Easy for you maybe but for the rest of us anything over about 130 is pretty darn bright.
IQ tests are rubbish anyway. If you are good at maths you get higher score if you are not good at maths.....
Not true. I'm shite at maths and I still did okay - 21st centile for maths, overall IQ of 128 on the Wechsler for detail fanatics.
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