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Still not an excuse to launch a verbal tirade against Katie.
I saw the beyond the boaardroom show the other day and Katie came across well with her two kids, I think a lot of what she says is purely for show. For example, I think Kristina was her arch enemy throughout the prog, but right at the end she still withdrew despite knowing if she had stayed she may well have taken the opportunity away from Kristina. |
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Still not an excuse to launch a verbal tirade against Katie.
I saw the beyond the boaardroom show the other day and Katie came across well with her two kids, I think a lot of what she says is purely for show. For example, I think Kristina was her arch enemy throughout the prog, but right at the end she still withdrew despite knowing if she had stayed she may well have taken the opportunity away from Kristina. As for Katie making some kind of noble gesture - that's bollox. Alan Sugar was testing her and she failed the test. The thought that she had an attack of conscience is laughable. If what she says is "purely for show" then she deserves not to be trusted. She deserved to lose the position. She deserves to take a verbal bashing from time to time. What is so wrong with her "real" personality that she needs to hide it behind a facade of shoulderpads and vampy lipstick? You are either up for the task or you aren't. If you need a front then you've got problems. |
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No...SAS let her fall on her sword. Kindest cut really.
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Katie has done enough verbal tirade launching throughout and should know well enough that if you can't take it, you shouldn't give it.
As for Katie making some kind of noble gesture - that's bollox. Alan Sugar was testing her and she failed the test. The thought that she had an attack of conscience is laughable. If what she says is "purely for show" then she deserves not to be trusted. She deserved to lose the position. She deserves to take a verbal bashing from time to time. What is so wrong with her "real" personality that she needs to hide it behind a facade of shoulderpads and vampy lipstick? You are either up for the task or you aren't. If you need a front then you've got problems. It's a tv show though, obviously it is going to attract Katie types! Don't know why people are taking it all so seriously! |
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The bra woman and her supposed moral superiority was pants, Katie easily a match for her and surprisingly restrained.
This man-stealer idea is also quite cute, it takes two to tango, if their marriages were so great beforehand, they wouldn't have strayed with Katie. It was interesting that Katie just couldn't be ruthless enough to deprive either one of Kristina or Simon a place in the final, cos she could have done that, taken an ego trip and pulled out then if that had been her game. |
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Exactly. As hideous as Katie has been, Bra Lady was even more hideous. All that looking at the audience for confirmation of her own "brilliance". Bet she wouldn't have said half of what she said if she hadn't been so certain the audience would be behind her.
I actually thought Katie was quite restrained in the face of such hostility. Yes, Katie deserved an adverse reaction for her petty vindictiveness on the show. But getting that tirade of gratuitous abuse from someone (ie Bra Lady) who thinks she is better than her simply because she has "made it" and therefore speaks for "the nation" left a sour taste in my mouth. Bra Lady ain't no lady. |
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Let's not forget Nick and his "red mouth shaped for sin" remark.
What a complete KNOB. Those twits actually managed to make Katie look good. |
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To me the whole thing was Michelle's audition for "Dragon's Den"
She so wants to be a celeb it hurts! |
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Snigger...really?
Do a little reading about Henry Ford for example, business can be done whilst being a nasty bigot. However, to try and compare company practices over sixty years ago and how it happens now isn't exactly representitive. For the most part now, the labour market as such is less likely to stick around and take crap. Plus the plethora of legislation means companies are less able to get away with treating employees badly. I'm not saying she is likely to be an angelic figure, just that, especially as a woman, if you are wholly hated by your staff, colleagues and business partners, you'll find it difficult to get the support you need to grow a business. Nowadays you can only push your staff so far. |
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It's a tv show though, obviously it is going to attract Katie types! Don't know why people are taking it all so seriously!
Be interesting to see if 1) she has a media career as a bitch, 2) has a media makeover to become the perfect mother and business woman. |
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ultimately it was still her decision though. if she was really as ruthless as everyone claims, then surely it would have been better for her to get to the final, win and then say she didn't want it.
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I thought the bra woman was totally out of order!
I think Katie is brilliant, and I think even more highly of her now for responding in a calm, dignified and hutmorous way to such a reception. Well Done Katie!
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It's a tv show though, obviously it is going to attract Katie types! Don't know why people are taking it all so seriously!
I'm also concerned that she may give business women a bad name..... |
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Not really taking it seriously - just killing time till I have to go to bed......
I'm also concerned that she may give business women a bad name..... |
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I thought the bra woman was totally out of order!
I think Katie is brilliant, and I think even more highly of her now for responding in a calm, dignified and hutmorous way to such a reception. Well Done Katie! ![]() Are you prepared to continue to give her praise knowing she may think you are a complete waste of space??
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and anyway why should any female individual stand as role model for a whole gender. No one says that Conrad Balck is a bad role model for all men
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Agreed.
I actually thought Katie was quite restrained in the face of such hostility. Yes, Katie deserved an adverse reaction for her petty vindictiveness on the show. But getting that tirade of gratuitous abuse from someone (ie Bra Lady) who thinks she is better than her simply because she has "made it" and therefore speaks for "the nation" left a sour taste in my mouth. Bra Lady ain't no lady. |
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Michelle was absolutely right! women like katie give women in business a bad name.
What is this good name that all women should represent in business? I have never ever heard anyone complain that an individual's behaviour gives men in business a bad name. I thought this statement of Michelle Mone was totally out of order. No woman in business has or should have the job of representing their entire sex in how they work. That Michelle Mone thinks it reflects badly on her, a view that was then substantiated by her "I've made it and you haven't" attitude. She comes across as one of those women who do what they can to ensure that female rivals are kept well under the glass ceiling. Quote:
she dissed women who want to stay and home with their children, AND she spoke of her own children as mere production products 'had them and thats done!' kind of attitude.
I didn't hear her diss women who wanted to stay home. She said that it wasn't what she wanted and furthermore, she didn't want to be told it was what she should want. Having children and having a career is tough, and planning things so that you can do both is good sense, not dismissive.Quote:
Deceitful filthy manstealer!
Poor, innocent man with no will or responsibility of his own! Didn't he know that only guys can indulge in adulterous affairs. That causes no ripples at all.
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I wasn't too keen on Katie during the show. I thought she was very entertaining at times, sometimes unintentionally hilarious, and yes she did go a bit OTT with some of her comments. But that daft scottish bint was out of order by saying "I've made it, you havn't". Like she would dare say that without the beloved audience
Nick irritated me aswell (even more so!) don't know what his problem was especially with that red mouth sin remark. I also want to ask why Tre was hailed as a hero by the audience, when all he did was scream, shout and swear at people He wasn't even that much of a great candidate IMO
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Yep. For the first time I actually felt some sympathy for Katie. I even started to like her a bit (it's gone now she's off the screen) but even so, that wouldn't have happened if Bra Lady hadn't been so awful.
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I'm sure Katie is very apprecative of your comments, while thinking you are a saddo without much of a life at a computer.
Are you prepared to continue to give her praise knowing she may think you are a complete waste of space?? ![]() I was just stating that I realy liked Katie that's all. You're more of the saddo for getting all upset about that! There is just no need for such remarks. I don't care what Katie thinks. Of all things, I'm sure she would welcome the support.
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I think Michelle Mone gives stupid dyed-blonde gobshite bra sellers a bad name.
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It is supposed to be for a real job, rather than fame. The way Katie spoke on the after show on BBC2 reminded me Big Brother of housemates, "People on the street love me", "People like me because I tell it like it is."
Be interesting to see if 1) she has a media career as a bitch, 2) has a media makeover to become the perfect mother and business woman. |
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So the softer look of peek-a-boo (ish) hairstyle and the removal of the red lips full of sin worked for you?
Nope because it's unusual for me to judge someone in that situation based purely on what they look like. I generally don't form opinions based on hairstyles and lipstick shades
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ultimately it was still her decision though. if she was really as ruthless as everyone claims, then surely it would have been better for her to get to the final, win and then say she didn't want it.
Classic!!! |
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He wasn't even that much of a great candidate IMO