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Old 08-06-2007, 17:16
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I used to be good in chemistry when i did my GCSES and got A and thats why i took it onto A levels, Ok i am so sick of revising chemistry basically now im doing my AS levels there finished now and i already knew before the exam that i completly ****ed up chemistry and would probally get a E or D. My minimum grade is a C thats what the teachers said i am capable of getting,And partly the reason why im bad at chemistry is because i put so little effort into it, and i find it a bit hard to understand so i dont bother spending much time on it.

But I really LOVE biology and one of the papers, i did in biology i found it really, easy and im capable of getting A in that subject.

:'( :'( so is there anyway of being a doctor , like being very good at biology but being crap at chemistry???

Please HELP

Because then i wont have any career in science and i will end up being a cleaner and my parents will be angry at me
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Old 08-06-2007, 17:18
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I used to be good in chemistry when i did my GCSES and got A and thats why i took it onto A levels, Ok i am so sick of revising chemistry basically now im doing my AS levels there finished now and i already knew before the exam that i completly ****ed up chemistry and would probally get a E or D. My minimum grade is a C thats what the teachers said i am capable of getting,And partly the reason why im bad at chemistry is because i put so little effort into it, and i find it a bit hard to understand so i dont bother spending much time on it.

But I really LOVE biology and one of the papers, i did in biology i found it really, easy and im capable of getting A in that subject.

:'( :'( so is there anyway of being a doctor , like being very good at biology but being crap at chemistry???

Please HELP

Because then i wont have any career in science and i will end up being a cleaner and my parents will be angry at me
Haven't you sort of answered your own question there?
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Old 08-06-2007, 17:19
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:'( :'( so is there anyway of being a doctor , like being very good at biology but being crap at chemistry???

Please HELP
Sorry no, and for good reason, can you imagine going to the Doctor with a broken leg and he says "Sorry I did not bother learning anything about legs, I found them too confusing and boring, I only learnt about arms"

I'm afraid you have to sometimes do stuff you aren't interested in to reach your goals!
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Old 08-06-2007, 17:19
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Try http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/details...lt.aspx?Id=556 or here:http://www.medschoolsonline.co.uk/index.php?pageid=140

May help you decide what subjects to go for next time don't put so little effort into you work. Think about your goals and push yourself to do better.

It no good being lazy.
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Old 08-06-2007, 17:20
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You are not bad at it you just don't like it and therefore don't make the effort. If you did a bit more work on it you would probably be fine.

Even if you don't become a Dr you don't have to be a cleaner there are many other things you can do.
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Old 08-06-2007, 17:20
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I used to be good in chemistry when i did my GCSES and got A and thats why i took it onto A levels, Ok i am so sick of revising chemistry basically now im doing my AS levels there finished now and i already knew before the exam that i completly ****ed up chemistry and would probally get a E or D. My minimum grade is a C thats what the teachers said i am capable of getting,And partly the reason why im bad at chemistry is because i put so little effort into it, and i find it a bit hard to understand so i dont bother spending much time on it.

But I really LOVE biology and one of the papers, i did in biology i found it really, easy and im capable of getting A in that subject.

:'( :'( so is there anyway of being a doctor , like being very good at biology but being crap at chemistry???

Please HELP

Because then i wont have any career in science and i will end up being a cleaner and my parents will be angry at me
Study, study, study and then study some more.

Then...

...study some more.

Once you've done that you'll thank me.

Everyone who is good at something spent a hell of a long time doing that something!
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Old 08-06-2007, 17:21
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Chemistry at GCSE is a joke. Chemistry really begins at A level...why we had to learn about rocks at GCSE i'll never know..i loved a level chemistry, it was the hardest subject i've probably ever done but i found it very very enjoyable!
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Old 08-06-2007, 17:26
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I am a final year medical student taking a brake from studying for final exams. If you can't be bothered putting the effort into studying for chemistry whats it going to be like when you are actually doing the course and have to study and pass in several subjects not all of which you will like. I mean my final exams are next week and I am sick of sitting in the library working but I still have to do it even if I don't want to. I think a more mature approach to work is required if you want to be a doctor.
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Old 08-06-2007, 17:28
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Chemistry at GCSE is a joke. Chemistry really begins at A level...why we had to learn about rocks at GCSE i'll never know..i loved a level chemistry, it was the hardest subject i've probably ever done but i found it very very enjoyable!
first thing you learn at A-level chemistry:

'everything you learned at GSCE is rubbish and wrong.'

First thing you learn about Chemistry at degree level

'forget everything you learned at A-level'

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Old 08-06-2007, 17:32
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Thanks for the advice i think the truth is that im just lazy i really dont want to let go of chemistry in a way because its like with my future career plans

But it i think is so stupid to study chemistry to be a doctor you need to be good at biology why do you need a knowledge of chemistry like wtf
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Old 08-06-2007, 17:35
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first thing you learn at A-level chemistry:

'everything you learned at GSCE is rubbish and wrong.'

First thing you learn about Chemistry at degree level

'forget everything you learned at A-level'

I dont doubt that

Thanks for the advice i think the truth is that im just lazy i really dont want to let go of chemistry in a way because its like with my future career plans

But it i think is so stupid to study chemistry to be a doctor you need to be good at biology why do you need a knowledge of chemistry like wtf

Err, doseage? Prescriptions? It can get very complicated. Knowing which chemicals shouldnt mix with other ones etc. To be honest if you are taking chemistry and are not enjoying it then it sounds maybe like being a doctor may not be the right thing to do.

I'm not saying this is how you feel about it but i used to know several people that tried to be doctors because of its lucrative salary, but didnt have the actual motivation to suceed in the career.
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Old 08-06-2007, 17:35
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Thanks for the advice i think the truth is that im just lazy i really dont want to let go of chemistry in a way because its like with my future career plans

But it i think is so stupid to study chemistry to be a doctor you need to be good at biology why do you need a knowledge of chemistry like wtf
Of course you will need a good knowledge of chemistry, and if you seriously wanted to become a doctor did you not bother do do any research into what qualifications or subjects you need BEFORE taking those subjects and then deciding you can't be bothering putting the effort in?
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Old 08-06-2007, 17:39
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I used to be good in chemistry when i did my GCSES and got A and thats why i took it onto A levels, Ok i am so sick of revising chemistry basically now im doing my AS levels there finished now and i already knew before the exam that i completly ****ed up chemistry and would probally get a E or D. My minimum grade is a C thats what the teachers said i am capable of getting,And partly the reason why im bad at chemistry is because i put so little effort into it, and i find it a bit hard to understand so i dont bother spending much time on it.

But I really LOVE biology and one of the papers, i did in biology i found it really, easy and im capable of getting A in that subject.

:'( :'( so is there anyway of being a doctor , like being very good at biology but being crap at chemistry???

Please HELP

Because then i wont have any career in science and i will end up being a cleaner and my parents will be angry at me


You should make a good doctor................your grammar is atrocious
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Old 08-06-2007, 17:41
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Thanks for the advice i think the truth is that im just lazy i really dont want to let go of chemistry in a way because its like with my future career plans

But it i think is so stupid to study chemistry to be a doctor you need to be good at biology why do you need a knowledge of chemistry like wtf
It's vital to have knowledge of chemistry as a major part of a doctors role is pharmacology and interpretation of blood chemistry etc. If you really don't enjoy chemistry why not try training as an allied health professional - Occupational Therapist/Physio or Speech therapist - particularly if you enjoy Biology. Incidentally some of the medical schools only require Chemistry to be taken to AS level and this may be relevant to you gain a good grade in your biology A level. Anyway good luck and stay motivated. You may also benefit from some 1:1 tuition - speak to your college - they may be able to help
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Old 08-06-2007, 17:42
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But it i think is so stupid to study chemistry to be a doctor you need to be good at biology why do you need a knowledge of chemistry like wtf
All of the processes that go on in the human body are ultimately driven by chemical reactions. That's why you need to know chemistry if you want to be a doctor.
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Old 08-06-2007, 21:38
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Thanks for the advice

I just think i need to become more motivated and think positive

I really want to change my attitude then is it too late? if i dont get the grades?? :'( can i still stay in A2, repeat the AS exams without repeating a year

Because i would die of embarassment lol if they tell me that i have to repeat the first year again with other younger students, i just dont have enough time for that, then i would definetly drop chemistry

My dad is a chemistry personal tutor lol but i dont take any advice for him because i dont understand the teaching methods he chooses
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Old 08-06-2007, 21:42
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It's so tight differentiating students based purely on grades - so even if you're predicted 3 As at A-level, and gave good all round GCSEs, you might not get in... Most people applying are in the same boat, and the courses are heavily oversubscribed.

In such a core subject to medicine, you really need to do better or just write it off.
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Old 08-06-2007, 22:06
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Why do you want to be a doctor?

From what I've seen over ten years of working in a hospital its stress & hard work ALL of the while.

Getting onto a course is difficult. As FC says, they are heavily oversubscribed. So you may work your behind off for nothing - and you stand no chance if you don't.

If you get on a course, it is the start of years of hard work. It doesn't end when you get your degree. Thats when the hard work gets harder. You are working long, usually unsociable, hours AND studying.

The money is no good. I earn more than a SHO and I only work 30 hours a week then get to go home & put my feet up.

Even when you get higher up, you still need to study, complete audits, do research & publish papers to get to Consultant. And that's on top of your work. And supervising junior doctors.

And at every stage you are in competion with others for the best jobs.
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Old 09-06-2007, 02:09
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Just give Chemistry up. If you're finding it hard at AS level, then you're gonna absolutely hate A2 work.

You sound like you've just picked Chemistry because your careers counsellor told you to take it, in order to become a doctor. You should only do the subjects you're comfortable with. If you hate Chemistry, then you'll have a hellish seven years at medical school!

You say you like Biology, why not aim towards a career involving Biology? A doctor isn't the only high paying job out there!

I made the exact same mistake as you. I picked Chemistry because I had some mad idea about working in healthcare. But I then went on a taster course in a hospital and realised that I hated the working environment. Everything felt so....depressing. And then I failed Chemistry lol.

So basically, if you're not very good at Chemistry, like me, then there's no hope of getting into medical school as a doctor.
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Old 09-06-2007, 02:18
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Have you read the thread here about junior doctors facing mass unemployment, not to mention in the news recently? Being a doctor doesn't seem as good a career choice as it once was, at least not in the NHS, from the sounds of it.

Obviously if you have a strong vocational desire to be a doctor, then I wouldn't want to put you off it. But if you love biology, there are loads of other exciting, rewarding careers that you could do - biotechnology, medical science research, etc.
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Old 09-06-2007, 11:26
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When you say "doctor" I assume you mean of medicine. I'm a doctor of pharmacology, I work in medical research and need to understand a bit of chemistry. I failed chemistry spectacularly on first sitting at degree level, scraped a pass on the second sitting and subsequently dropped it from my degree after the first year.

However this hasn't prevented me from picking up what I need to know along the way. You don't have to do medicine for a career in science and if you specialise in a particular discipline then you'll be taught the level of chemistry that's required for the subject.
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Old 09-06-2007, 11:28
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Have you read the thread here about junior doctors facing mass unemployment, not to mention in the news recently? Being a doctor doesn't seem as good a career choice as it once was, at least not in the NHS, from the sounds of it.
Amen to that.
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Old 09-06-2007, 11:31
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first thing you learn at A-level chemistry:

'everything you learned at GSCE is rubbish and wrong.'

First thing you learn about Chemistry at degree level

'forget everything you learned at A-level'

Oh that goes for so many courses not just chemistry, it's a shocking indication of how our education system is set up!
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Old 09-06-2007, 12:13
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I used to be good in chemistry when i did my GCSES and got A and thats why i took it onto A levels, Ok i am so sick of revising chemistry basically now im doing my AS levels there finished now and i already knew before the exam that i completly ****ed up chemistry and would probally get a E or D. My minimum grade is a C thats what the teachers said i am capable of getting,And partly the reason why im bad at chemistry is because i put so little effort into it, and i find it a bit hard to understand so i dont bother spending much time on it.

But I really LOVE biology and one of the papers, i did in biology i found it really, easy and im capable of getting A in that subject.

:'( :'( so is there anyway of being a doctor , like being very good at biology but being crap at chemistry???

Please HELP

Because then i wont have any career in science and i will end up being a cleaner and my parents will be angry at me

Peninsula Medical School ask for only one science at A-level at grade A (ABBb/AABc). In your case this would be biology. The University of East Anglia also only ask for one science subject at grade A I think.

I’m in a similar situation as you; I find chemistry very hard compared to some people in my lectures, but at the same time try and work my arse off for it. If it means you having to re do one year, then so be it. I know it's not ideal, but it may get you to where you want to go. I did the same with my human biology AS last year. However, I did have some time to play with as I was moved up one year.

Most of the medical students and even some doctors I’ve spoken to have said that chemistry at a-level was a complete waste of time, and is of absolutely no use to them today.

One doctor I know quite well re did his chemistry a-level 4/5 times just to get the grade he needed for a graduate entry place for medicine. He’s told me how he hated seeing his friends going off to university to do medicine and he was stuck at home working in M&S. In his late 20’s he got a place to study medicine at Liverpool – doing something he had always wanted to do since he was a child. He fought and fought and fought to nail his chemistry, every time picking himself up again from failure to start again. In his mid 40’s he’s now a consultant community paediatrician, and an excellent doctor at that. He truly values his job. I guess the moral behind this is, is that if you really want something so badly, you will fight (and keep on fighting) ‘till the bitter end to get it. Never give up trying.

If you have anymore problems or worries, just pm me.
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Old 09-06-2007, 13:14
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Beachbabe, I've tried to ignore this thread, mostly because I know how cynical and fed-up I am and it doesn't seem fair to spoil anyone's ambitions but ...

Seriously, I woud hope that none of my children want to become medical doctors, really, I hope they never want that!

I've worked in the NHS for over 20 years and it's one of the most soul destroying jobs anyone can have I think.

While the newspapers happily report that we have all been given massive pay rises, most of us have not seen any money. For the last three years I've worked (including overtime) and not been paid the upgraded rate. Mostly because my trust can't afford it but also for bureaucratic reasons. I am not alone, other Consultants are in the same position. So are many GP's (despite the papers regularly reporting their massive salaries).

Not only that, but our power is being constantly undermined by non-medical people dictating that we should only prescribe the cheapest version of most drugs, even when better and newer drugs are available, or dictating to us the most ridiculous 'targets' which are unreachable and, frankly, impinge on decent patient care. It's a joke.

It becomes a head-bang-wall situation. I recently worked out the number of hours I'm contracted to work (I work part-time) Vs the number of hours I ACTUALLY work. There is no comparison.

But I AM THE ONE who patients complain to about long waiting lists, lack of the drugs they want, lack of suitable people to refer them to. I am the one who has to sit there, day after day, and try to justify the shortcomings of the NHS to my patients.

To be honest, recently, I've given up trying to justify it, it's just not worth it.
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