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The Stoneroses
Any fans of the Stone Roses here on DS? And if so, what do you think of any possible reunion? Last few years Ian Brown has taken to performing some Roses songs as part of his gigs and relations between all band members are allegedly good aside from Brown and John Squire.
There has been hints from all band members of such a reunion aside from Squire who never says anything public. Mani is the most recent to go vocal on the possibility saying this in Uncut mag recently: "I'm the only person who could bring it back together again. Ian knows how to craft a tune, John knows how to craft a tune. I don't know if any of us are powerful without each other. The magic was the power of four".(lifted the quote off wikipedia). Anyone want to see this happen and have any views on their music anyway? |
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Having seen the Roses live back in 95 and then Ian Brown live last year I hope they don't get back together.
His already poor voice was terrible last year and I think that any concerts would ultimately be a let down. The Roses had their time and I loved them for it but seeing the likes of the Mondays reform, I unfortunately saw them last month, was just embarassing. Best to keep the memories. |
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Too young to have seen the Roses when they were around sadly, but saw Ian Brown at Glastonbury in 95 and it was good to see him do so many Roses songs - was a bit of a shame though that I'd just seen Mani with Primal Scream about an hour before so there was the potential of a mini-reunion of sorts, but it didn't happen.
Also his set ended in complete farce, he finished without saying anything, everyone wanted more (and everyone was waiting for I am the Resurrection) and in the end he had to come back on to tell everyone to go away. I think there's still probably far too much bad blood between Squire and Brown for a proper reunion, sadly. |
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can't see any reunion happeneing, personally.
quite happy with mr monkeys solo stuff as it is anyway. (but with the odd play of old roses albums in between of course) |
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Don't really want to see them reform. Loved them at the time and still love them now, but I think their time has passed.
I would like to see Squire do something decent though, because the Seahorses were poor, I prefered the Shirehorses!!! |
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Hmm..
I think the idea of the Roses getting back together would be better than the reality.. Ian's vocals are far too hit and miss for live stuff, and they'd take years to do anything in the studio, add to the fact that Ian's solo career is still doing well, Mani is happy in Primal Scream.. also the fall out between Ian & John was a pretty nasty one, I've heard it was John's attitude to a certain replacement in the band, views that were rightly unacceptable to Ian Brown.
I'd like to see Reni & Mani & John in a band together again though. I think Reni is one of the best drummers there's ever been, pure class. |
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Monkey has always been cack live. He was when the Roses were at their peak and he is now with his solo stuff. I still enjoy Ian Brown gigs because they are usually a good atmosphere and a top laugh but if you are going for a perfect vocal performance, forget it and if you spit, throw an object or somehow interfere with Ian Brown on stage be prepared for him to stop the show until he finds out who the heckler was.
The Roses getting back together would purely be of interest to me for what they could do in the studio now. The combined efforts of the four, even in middle age, would surely be better than 90% of the average stuff that was on the 'Second Coming'. Before Ian Brown went solo, the wide assumption was that Squire and Reni were the musical talent in the Roses and Monkey was just the voice and an imperfect one at that. I think Ian Brown's solo career proves that he did and does have some musical talent of his own and that impression was wrong. I rate Squire as a guitarist but most of the Seahorses only album was garbage. I reckon they could reform. It is not a certain impossibility like reuniting the Smiths would be. There is only bitterness between Brown and Squire and Squire never says anything publically on the issue, although Monkey has accused him of trying to get it together through Mani and Reni. The divisions do not seem intractable or especially that important just long standing. |
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I'm certain they will get back together to jump on the retro bandwagon and make even more cash. I think it's not a ood idea for these to reform and I think the memories should be all we're left with as Brown is a disaster live.
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i still want to go seeing him later this year
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I hope it will happen but if it doesnt occur within the next year or two then I fear it will never happen.
I think Brown and Squire seem to have mellowed recently in their comments so you never know. |
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I'd heard that the fall out between Brown & Squire was down to Reni's replacement Robbie Maddox - Squire didn't think he was right for the Roses, not based on his talent, personality, etc but something else that outraged Brown. Think of the outcry recently about Emily in Big Brother..
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Interesting. On the upside, you'd hope that there might still be some great untapped music in there. On the downside, the expectations would be so massive it's likely they could cave in under the weight of it all. I never saw them live, but treasure BOTH albums. Second Coming is poorer all-round, but at times it touches fantastic peaks.
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Hi all,
Don't post on here much but thought you might be interested to know that John Squire was on XFM for an hour a couple of weeks back. The show was available online afterwards, don't know whether it still is but you can check at http://www.xfmmanchester.co.uk/ In a nutshell, he was completely negative regarding any possibility of a reunion and didn't seem that enthusiastic about the Roses' music period so don't hold your breath. He's a very reserved character- it was like getting blood out of stone (no pun intended) getting him to open up about anything. |
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Monkey has always been cack live. He was when the Roses were at their peak and he is now with his solo stuff.
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I beg to differ- they were faultless at Spike Island . Remember it like it was yesterday.
Even they said Spike Island was shit with the sound and complete set up of the event being a complete balls up. The Drugs Don't Work...... except for RegCox obviously.
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You are kidding?
Even they said Spike Island was shit with the sound and complete set up of the event being a complete balls up. The Drugs Don't Work...... except for RegCox obviously. ![]() |
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Yeah but i can only go on what i heard at the time timothy. It was ace i promise. I don't care what you read about the gig- i saw and heard differently. Yeah it was chaos getting on to the island etc but compared to previous gigs they actually pulled it off.
The stage was set up facing the wrong way and the sound quality was shit due to the wind. |
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