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Sony Bravia KD(L/F) 26/32/40/46/50 (E/S/UV/W) 2xx0/3xx0 etc
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This week there is a software update being transmitted on the engineering channel (MUX 1) for models implied(!) in the Topic title to update to v2.5.512 and I have a couple of questions... 1. Has anyone got this yet either via auto update or forced download (is that possible on the Bravia's?)? 2. I'm assuming that my KDL-S26A12U falls into the definition above but am not 100% sure? My set currently has v2.4.161 so it looks like it should... (in other words, I can make no sense of how they've written the above!) 3. Anyone aware of the improvements/additions/changes/bugfixes and what they are? Regards, Colin |
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1. Has anyone got this yet either via auto update or forced download (is that possible on the Bravia's?)?
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2. I'm assuming that my KDL-S26A12U falls into the definition above but am not 100% sure? My set currently has v2.4.161 so it looks like it should... (in other words, I can make no sense of how they've written the above!) KDL-32S2500 So no letter before the screen size, and four digitats after the single letter (ending in zero). |
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It's not possible on FreeView.
Your model doesn't look to fall in the numbers listed above, it's nothing like them - they are numbers like: KDL-32S2500 So no letter before the screen size, and four digitats after the single letter (ending in zero). |
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It's not possible on FreeView.
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Err... why do you think that? I can assure you it works fine.
Colin Only one manufacturer can be broadcasting an update at one time. Most have an option to do a forced search, but that won't pick up what's not being broadcast. |
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Sony have never been great for broadcasting updates, i suspect that support for the old A12 and V12 will have been dropped now?
KDL-S26A12U is not a million miles away in normal Sony format actually (compared to even KDL-32S2500 - the colour "S" is just moved along 3 places for example - it's still 7 alphanumerics after the KDL-) Anyway, I've sent them an e-mail asking... Colin |
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Well, that's a bit naff... They've been fine updating my PVR...
KDL-S26A12U is not a million miles away in normal Sony format actually (compared to even KDL-32S2500 - the colour "S" is just moved along 3 places for example - it's still 7 alphanumerics after the KDL-) Anyway, I've sent them an e-mail asking... Colin The new Sony's use a completely different digital setup. These updates won't be compatible. Even the KDL-32S2500 technically should have a U on the end. So the model numbers now are quite different. |
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Sony have never been great for broadcasting updates, i suspect that support for the old A12 and V12 will have been dropped now?
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It's not possible to do a forced download as it is on Sky.
Only one manufacturer can be broadcasting an update at one time. Most have an option to do a forced search, but that won't pick up what's not being broadcast. I didn't mean that actually. I was already assuming that the update was being transmitted. What I meant was that there was only a menu option for Autoupdate to be on or off and no menu item to say "Look for an update now" kind of thing... (making the aforementioned assumption that one was already being transmitted) Rather than simply waiting for it as a sort of "hit & miss"... Colin |
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The 'S' doesn't signify the colour.
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The new Sony's use a completely different digital setup. These updates won't be compatible.
Hmmm....My mother has just bought one of the brand new 40" ones (can't remember the model number) and the software is visually identical in structure and menus to my (much) older KDL-S26A12U... (even though the external style and casing is completely different)
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Oh ok, well it used to...
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Hmmm....My mother has just bought one of the brand new 40" ones (can't remember the model number) and the software is visually identical in structure and menus to my (much) older KDL-S26A12U... (even though the external style and casing is completely different) I see no reason to believe that Sony will have stopped updates for your set?, Sony are usually very good about support. It's more likely they don't consider it needs an update? - bear in mind the OTA updates are ONLY for the FreeView part of the TV. |
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I have this update....
Not noticed anything different.. yet |
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No, it's never signified the colour, just the different chassis and panel variations.
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It obviously makes sense to keep menus reasonable similar, but that's nothing to do with what's actually inside the TV.
Since I am a trained (ex) TV Engineer, I already knew that...Quote:
I see no reason to believe that Sony will have stopped updates for your set?, Sony are usually very good about support.
That's been my experience too (but of course others in these forums differ...). I remain ever hopeful! Quote:
It's more likely they don't consider it needs an update?
True. However, being also a computer programmer (in another life - network analyst now) I would hope their team of software engineers wouldn't rest on their laurels! There are many ways I could find to improve the user interface of Sony IDTVs! Quote:
- bear in mind the OTA updates are ONLY for the FreeView part of the TV.
Well I knew that of course... Colin |
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I have this update....
Not noticed anything different.. yet Colin |
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No, it's never signified the colour, just the different chassis and panel variations.
It obviously makes sense to keep menus reasonable similar, but that's nothing to do with what's actually inside the TV. I see no reason to believe that Sony will have stopped updates for your set?, Sony are usually very good about support. It's more likely they don't consider it needs an update? - bear in mind the OTA updates are ONLY for the FreeView part of the TV. I know internet firms will only have a warehouse to run rather than a shop but there are differences of nearly £300 for the same tv. Surely sony has a set price it charges for them and the rest is dealer margin. £300 seems a big margin.I was thinking of a 32 lcd bravia but local independent is nigh on £300 dearer than Amazon. ian |
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Nigel why is there such a big difference between price of sony tv's from different retailers?
I know internet firms will only have a warehouse to run rather than a shop but there are differences of nearly £300 for the same tv. Quote:
Surely sony has a set price it charges for them and the rest is dealer margin. £300 seems a big margin.I was thinking of a 32 lcd bravia but local independent is nigh on £300 dearer than Amazon. |
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price difference on sony lcd's
"If prices are hugely different it's quite possible that the cheap one is a graded set?, graded sets have substantial discounts on them - the dealer is supposed to sell them as graded, but some don't!."
Nigel, by graded do you mean refurbished / marked equipment?? "There are different tiers of Sony prices, depending on your standing as a Sony dealer." Does different tiers mean those who sell more get biggest discounts ( then produce the cheapest prices and the senario repeats itself)?? I'd have thought they wanted the price to be virtually the same everywhere to maximise revenue and ensure all dealers got some of the action? "Then, occasionally, some clever person at Sony (or other manufacturers) will sell a load off cheap to someone - usually not even a dealer!" Doesn't seem kind to longstanding dealers, such as yourself or good business practice (keep dealers happy). Local dealer does 0% over 12 months, so may go along and discuss a deal after hols. Thanks for clearing price difference up ian |
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Just curious, what model TV do you have?
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"If prices are hugely different it's quite possible that the cheap one is a graded set?, graded sets have substantial discounts on them - the dealer is supposed to sell them as graded, but some don't!."
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"There are different tiers of Sony prices, depending on your standing as a Sony dealer." Does different tiers mean those who sell more get biggest discounts ( then produce the cheapest prices and the senario repeats itself)?? I'd have thought they wanted the price to be virtually the same everywhere to maximise revenue and ensure all dealers got some of the action? Quote:
"Then, occasionally, some clever person at Sony (or other manufacturers) will sell a load off cheap to someone - usually not even a dealer!" Doesn't seem kind to longstanding dealers, such as yourself or good business practice (keep dealers happy).
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I've got it on my 32V2000. The only difference I've noticed so far is that if you look at "System Information" there's a lot more info on there apart from just version and signal strength. No idea what they mean though..Anyone any ideas?
They're labelled Pre Viterbi 5s UEC Post Viterbi 5s COFDM AGC |
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I've got it on my 32V2000. The only difference I've noticed so far is that if you look at "System Information" there's a lot more info on there apart from just version and signal strength. No idea what they mean though..Anyone any ideas?
They're labelled Pre Viterbi 5s UEC Post Viterbi 5s COFDM AGC Colin |
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As far as I am aware, Viterbi is a kind of decoding algorithm that's finding its way in graphical applications? I guess they must be applying it to DTV codecs now or something? Not sure of the fine detail of it though...
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£300 seems a big margin.