You have to be tough to succeed in business so I don't blame Kristina for being like that.
The penny has just dropped - why Kristina didn't get the job
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Originally Posted by Rugby Rose:
“I would work for her, no problems there.”
“I would work for her, no problems there.”
I would if I was useful to her but, gawd help anyone when they had outgrown their usefulness! Look at how she treated Adam! Sorry folks, it's time to take off the rose coloured specs. She's good but, she's not the Saint everyone's making her out to be. By her own admission she's ruthless so don't be surprised if you worked for her and she let you carry the can for one of her mistakes!!!
Originally Posted by *Laura*:
“I would if I was useful to her but, gawd help anyone when they had outgrown their usefulness! Look at how she treated Adam! Sorry folks, it's time to take off the rose coloured specs. She's good but, she's not the Saint everyone's making her out to be. By her own admission she's ruthless so don't be surprised if you worked for her and she let you carry the can for one of her mistakes!!!”
“I would if I was useful to her but, gawd help anyone when they had outgrown their usefulness! Look at how she treated Adam! Sorry folks, it's time to take off the rose coloured specs. She's good but, she's not the Saint everyone's making her out to be. By her own admission she's ruthless so don't be surprised if you worked for her and she let you carry the can for one of her mistakes!!!”
You could argue that Adam had outgrown his usefulness
I've never made Kristina out to be a Saint, I don't recall anyone doing that. She was just damn good at pretty much everything she did - except the tv presenting thing but that was amusing, I wasn't impressed with the shoving the lollypop in the child's hand though. Yes, she was ruthless at times, but she was still the best by far and I liked her a lot.
Adam was well and truly out of his depth unfortunately. Nice guy, but became generally useless. I'd have become fairly impatient with him too.
Adam was well and truly out of his depth unfortunately. Nice guy, but became generally useless. I'd have become fairly impatient with him too.
Kristina is actually far more ruthless than Katie but without the sense of humour.I don't think she 's as bright as Katie but she doesn't steal other people's men and then boast about it-hence she is perceived as "likeable".And being the "poor single mum" ,deserving.
I suspect working with and for her would not be much fun.And tell me when she ever gave credit to anyone else??
Give me Simon any day
I suspect working with and for her would not be much fun.And tell me when she ever gave credit to anyone else??
Give me Simon any day
Originally Posted by FeliciaM:
“Kristina is actually far more ruthless than Katie but without the sense of humour.I don't think she 's as bright as Katie but she doesn't steal other people's men and then boast about it-hence she is perceived as "likeable".And being the "poor single mum" ,deserving.
I suspect working with and for her would not be much fun.And tell me when she ever gave credit to anyone else??
Give me Simon any day”
“Kristina is actually far more ruthless than Katie but without the sense of humour.I don't think she 's as bright as Katie but she doesn't steal other people's men and then boast about it-hence she is perceived as "likeable".And being the "poor single mum" ,deserving.
I suspect working with and for her would not be much fun.And tell me when she ever gave credit to anyone else??
Give me Simon any day”
If wishing people dead is "a sense of humour" then I'd rather have Kritstina on my team.
Originally Posted by FeliciaM:
“She really isn't THAT good.She sells well yes.But in terms of potential-and hence the ability to overtake in due course-Simon was the better candidate.Which isn't to say he was the best of the bunch, but he was better than her”
“She really isn't THAT good.She sells well yes.But in terms of potential-and hence the ability to overtake in due course-Simon was the better candidate.Which isn't to say he was the best of the bunch, but he was better than her”
She was better than most of the others (including Simon in my book), and she's hungry. Hungry is good.
Originally Posted by Ansildrall:
“You could argue that Adam had outgrown his usefulness”
“You could argue that Adam had outgrown his usefulness
”
I'd second that. Adam was a "nice enough bloke" but hardly outstanding and hardly real business material. Far too wishy washy dull I'm afraid. He was never going to impress anyone in the boardroom with his down in the mouth attitude, and you do need to impress people if you want them to do business with you.
Originally Posted by AshFan:
“No-one's suggested the obvious reason he chose simon, that he doesn't want a female winner this year. He's probably so scarred from michelle that he's decided to go for an enhaustic bloke this year instead. There's also the fact that simon did better on the final task, I think sir alan said his colleagues were very impressed with the answers he gave and also his building was better designed, altho that wasn't really down to him.”
“No-one's suggested the obvious reason he chose simon, that he doesn't want a female winner this year. He's probably so scarred from michelle that he's decided to go for an enhaustic bloke this year instead. There's also the fact that simon did better on the final task, I think sir alan said his colleagues were very impressed with the answers he gave and also his building was better designed, altho that wasn't really down to him.”
What's all the hate on Michelle for? She had terrible issues develop in her private life after getting the job, which in itself turned out to be a crap one anyway with no chance of succeeding. Hardly all her fault for it not working out.
Originally Posted by Ansildrall:
“You could argue that Adam had outgrown his usefulness”
“You could argue that Adam had outgrown his usefulness
”
Some would argue that he had none in the first place to outgrow.....
Originally Posted by frost:
“What's all the hate on Michelle for? She had terrible issues develop in her private life after getting the job, which in itself turned out to be a crap one anyway with no chance of succeeding. Hardly all her fault for it not working out.”
“What's all the hate on Michelle for? She had terrible issues develop in her private life after getting the job, which in itself turned out to be a crap one anyway with no chance of succeeding. Hardly all her fault for it not working out.”
I agree. She made a valid point about there being no real demand for the service.
Originally Posted by Rugby Rose:
“After being mightily annoyed since Simon 'won' and ranting and raving on here in several places, I've finally realised that Kristina didn't win because she's too good. After reading on here in another thread Sir Alan is considering giving her another role in the company the penny suddenly dropped.
Kristina is not an 'apprentice', she's already the finished product. She's management material, the 'apprentice' is beneath her. She doesn't need moulding, she doesn't need coaching or training, she just needs to be given a management role and left to get on with it.
I hope that's the case anyway. If so, I don't understand why Sir Alan didn't point that out last night. Then again, maybe he did - I was so disgusted, I didn't watch the aftermath on BBC2.
Kristina is the winner. She was the best by far. As far as I'm concerned, she did win, the 'apprentice' role was just beneath her outstanding capabilities.”
“After being mightily annoyed since Simon 'won' and ranting and raving on here in several places, I've finally realised that Kristina didn't win because she's too good. After reading on here in another thread Sir Alan is considering giving her another role in the company the penny suddenly dropped.
Kristina is not an 'apprentice', she's already the finished product. She's management material, the 'apprentice' is beneath her. She doesn't need moulding, she doesn't need coaching or training, she just needs to be given a management role and left to get on with it.
I hope that's the case anyway. If so, I don't understand why Sir Alan didn't point that out last night. Then again, maybe he did - I was so disgusted, I didn't watch the aftermath on BBC2.
Kristina is the winner. She was the best by far. As far as I'm concerned, she did win, the 'apprentice' role was just beneath her outstanding capabilities.”
I got to say I find myself agreeing with you.
Originally Posted by *Skylight*:
“All you people who are saying how great Kristina is - would you really want to work for her? Really?”
“All you people who are saying how great Kristina is - would you really want to work for her? Really?”
probably not. But that isn't the question we're trying to answer, is it.
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