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Is 2003 the year where dance regains its popularity?
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Chris E
04-05-2003
Although some people on here will be quick to shoot me down for saying this, I think dance is now regaining its popularity.

This year the all these dance singles have done well:

Divine Inpiration - The Way (Number 5 on the 12th of January)

Panjabi MC - Mundian To Bach Ke (Number 5 on the 19th of January)

Layo & Bushwacka - Finally (Number 8 on the 19th of January)

Jurgen Vries - Brave New World (Number 3 on the 26th of January)

Kira - I'll Be Your Angel (Number 9 on the 23rd of February)

DJ Sammy - Boys Of Summer (Number 2 on the 2nd of March)

Junior Senior - Move Your Feet (Number 3 on the 2nd of March)

Vanuguard - Flash (Number 15 on the 23rd of March)

Room 5 - Make Luv (Number 1 on the 30th of March for 4 weeks)

Plummet - Damaged (Number 12 on the 20th of April)

Tomcraft - Lonliness (Number 1 on the 4th of May)

And theyre just a few, loads more have got into the top 20 and many more into the top 40.

Is this the year that sees a turn around for dance?
woodpecker_pie
04-05-2003
There have been stacks of Top Ten dance hits every year. Not sure i understand why you think this year is any different?

RadiorobFM
04-05-2003
I think dance has lost out to the black stuff (esp r&b) we get these days.

After all, the dance radio and TV stations have been turne dinto black stations specialising in r&b. Therefore, songs which dont end up on the radio don't get bought and the profile of dance in the mainstream goes down.
Chris E
04-05-2003
There wern't as many this time last year, only a few actually got into the Top 20 like Chemical Brothers, DB Boulevard, Lasgo and Flip & Fill.

This year is much better, so far...
da33431
05-05-2003
Two #1's already this year spending a total of 5 weeks at the top, a huge improvement on last year. Certain posters on this forum seem to think that dance is unpopular, but I think the public know otherwise. Even P Diddy is getting in on the act and Dancestar USA looked like a great event, so the future looks brighter in the States although the corrupt chaarts over there probably will hold things up.
pi r squared
05-05-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Chris E
There wern't as many this time last year, only a few actually got into the Top 20 like Chemical Brothers, DB Boulevard, Lasgo and Flip & Fill.”

Erm, not strictly true.

By this time last year we had had the following Top 20 hits:

Puretone - Addicted to Bass
DJ Alligator Project - The Whistle Song
Goldtrix - It's Love (Trippin')
Lange - Drifting Away
Flip & Fill featuring Kelly Llorenna - True Love Never Dies
Dirt Devils - The Dril
POD - Alive
DB Boulevard - Point of View
Lasgo - Something
Shy FX - Shake Ur Body
Faithless (ft. Dido) - One Step Too Far
1 Giant Leap - My Culture

So no, I don't think 2003 has started off any more 'dancey' than previous years. And we're still getting lumped with just as many covers and dance bastardisations of once brilliant songs... joy en masse!!
Pingu
05-05-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by pi r squared
DJ Alligator Project - The Whistle Song”

Oh god don't remind me!!


Dance has never been out of the charts, and although there have been some good records out this year, I don't think it's 'coming back'. I mean, look at MTV Dance, playing P Diddy, B2K, JLo etc. They only do that becuase it's the 'thing' at the moment, and they want to cash in.

Although the thing that I feel is not doing dance a lot of favours currently, is the amount of cheesy 80s covers, and european pop bands churning out mundane trance, because it's so bad, people remember it and then they think that's all that dance music is.

Ah well, it will come round again one day....
FastEddie
05-05-2003
"POD - Alive"

Erm....was a nu-metal hit from a Christian rock band...hardly dance
pi r squared
05-05-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by FastEddie
"POD - Alive"

Erm....was a nu-metal hit from a Christian rock band...hardly dance
”

Ooops, yes, copied and pasted the wrong one...
boredatwork
05-05-2003
Puretone - Addicted to Bass
Faithless (ft. Dido) - One Step Too Far
1 Giant Leap - My Culture

I dont consider them dance music. Modern but not dance.

Goldtrix - It's Love (Trippin')
Dirt Devils - The Dril
POD - Alive
Shy FX - Shake Ur Body

I dont even remember these.
pi r squared
05-05-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by boredatwork
Puretone - Addicted to Bass
Faithless (ft. Dido) - One Step Too Far
1 Giant Leap - My Culture

I dont consider them dance music.
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So? I don't suppose you consider Room 5, Junior Senior or Panjabi MCs as dance music either but as they were listed in the original post I'm counting these ones as dance too for the purpose of this discussion.

Quote:
“Goldtrix - It's Love (Trippin')
Dirt Devils - The Dril
POD - Alive
Shy FX - Shake Ur Body

I dont even remember these.”

Again, so? Just because you don't remember them doesn't mean they weren't Top 20 hits. POD was a copy and pasting mistake, however the other three I'm sure you would recognise if you got hold of a copy of Now 52 or Hits 52 and had a listen.
*MikeB*
05-05-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Chris E
I think dance is now regaining its popularity.”

Please God no!! I hate that crap, talentless, bullsh*t. Man, most of it doesnt even have lyrics, and the ones that do, have the most simplistic laughable/corny lyrics you could ever imagine. I really hope it doesnt get popular again, but thats just my opinion.
greg
05-05-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by *MikeB*
Please God no!! I hate that crap, talentless, bullsh*t. Man, most of it doesnt even have lyrics, and the ones that do, have the most simplistic laughable/corny lyrics you could ever imagine. I really hope it doesnt get popular again, but thats just my opinion. ”

Don't get me wrong, I love music with good lyrics (its impossible to stand Bob Dylan's voice without having the lyrics to cling onto like myself) but there is more to music than just lyrics.. such as uh, the actual music.

A good dance tune can be just as enjoyable as a vicious Bob Dylan song, or any other song writer for that matter - fair enough if you dont like dance (I use to be the same) but it doesn't get the credit it deserves at times.
FastEddie
06-05-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by *MikeB*
Please God no!! I hate that crap, talentless, bullsh*t. Man, most of it doesnt even have lyrics, and the ones that do, have the most simplistic laughable/corny lyrics you could ever imagine. I really hope it doesnt get popular again, but thats just my opinion. ”

I am *that* close to just uploading a rant to the net that i can just link to whenever someone posts this sort of small-minded, ignorant garbage. The number of people who actually understand what music is meant to be is far outnumbered by idiots who support their favourite bands and genres like a football team.
Jerichoholic
06-05-2003
I refer back to a comment I made in another thread,IF we all liked the same stuff i.e Music,celebrities,football teams this world would be boring. Dislike the music if you must but do`nt criticise others for their liking of it.
*MikeB*
06-05-2003
I didn't criticise anyone for liking it. I just outlined why I hate the crap and why I hope it doesnt get more popular this year.
TOML
06-05-2003
Some pretty weak songs especially the useless dj sammy don't get me wrong i like dance like my classic ibiza rewind to the 90's but this is boring.
FastEddie
06-05-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by *MikeB*
I didn't criticise anyone for liking it. I just outlined why I hate the crap and why I hope it doesnt get more popular this year. ”

Based on totally subjective viewpoints that nobody can evaluate rationally, thus negating any worth your post had. Ergo, don't post crap like that - it's keyboard self-masturbation at best.
afx237vi
06-05-2003
To say a song is rubbish because it hasn't got lyrics is clearly foolish... but I would say a lot of the dance that gets into the charts is very derivative and soulless euro-crap. Same old cheesy drumbeat, same old over-used synthy noises, same old unoriginal female vocalist.

Proper dance music can be amazing, but the chart stuff usually isn't.
*MikeB*
06-05-2003
I wasnt really asking anyone to evaluate my opinion, merely stating what I think. I presonally think its crap for the reasons I have said. I think those guys are pretty talentless, well compared to other genres anyway. To me, they're just churning out computer generated crap, under another stupid meaningless name, with another vocalist that sounds like all the other female dance vocalist, and who has most probably failed to break it in other genres so has to resort to singing simple lyrics on a dance song.

I'm not asking everyone to agree with me, its just my opinion and I'm entitled to give it on forums like this one.
greg
07-05-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by *MikeB*
I wasnt really asking anyone to evaluate my opinion, merely stating what I think. I presonally think its crap for the reasons I have said. I think those guys are pretty talentless, well compared to other genres anyway. To me, they're just churning out computer generated crap, under another stupid meaningless name, with another vocalist that sounds like all the other female dance vocalist, and who has most probably failed to break it in other genres so has to resort to singing simple lyrics on a dance song.

I'm not asking everyone to agree with me, its just my opinion and I'm entitled to give it on forums like this one.
”

When it comes to chart dance I couldn't agree with you more - it does really bug me when they just chuck in some female voice. You get the occasional good song but on the most part I feel it is all the same.

With regards to having talent and not - personally when I listen to music I tend to enjoy the song because of the way it makes me feel or because I like the way its layered etc. If the person doing it has talent then all the better, but its not essential for me. I use to think the other way round - however back then all I listened to was Indie and the occasional rock classic. I can enjoy pratically any genre as much as the next now.
FastEddie
07-05-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by greg
With regards to having talent and not - personally when I listen to music I tend to enjoy the song because of the way it makes me feel or because I like the way its layered etc. If the person doing it has talent then all the better, but its not essential for me. I use to think the other way round - however back then all I listened to was Indie and the occasional rock classic. I can enjoy pratically any genre as much as the next now. ”

Are you me in another life?

I would post in agreement, but you pretty much said it word for word....so...."What HE said!"
metafis
07-05-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by *MikeB*
I didn't criticise anyone for liking it. I just outlined why I hate the crap and why I hope it doesnt get more popular this year. ”

Fair point Mike.
I like some dance, probably for the same reasons I like status quo. I'm a sucker for a solid 4 beat .
metafis
07-05-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by FastEddie
Are you me in another life?

I would post in agreement, but you pretty much said it word for word....so...."What HE said!"
”

me also.
althought deciding 'talent' is difficult. 'The cheeky Girls' have a talent for doing light weight pop, and , so far, are successful at it. 'Las Ketchup' .whoever wrote that song, IMO, showed talent and originality. 2 songs that could be labelled 'talentless' by some, but have a certain 'something' which made them popular. even the most twee and simple pop song has to have something extra for it to succeed.
greg
07-05-2003
What I dont class as talent though is when a band such as Westlife release a ballad that simply follows all the rules (ie. taking it up a key during the last chorus)... its music by numbers and that bugs me. But then you also find that in other genres. There are certain types of songs I like but then I hear so many songs that work the same way that I just dont pay any attention to the latest releases.

At least with bands such as Blur, Radiohead and Mansun (RIP) you know you are going to hear something that isn't by the numbers.
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