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Old 18-06-2007, 10:59
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With the upcoming exits of
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and therefore the end of two of the more dominant current storylines what do people think the soap will rely on to continue into the summer?

I'm hoping this doesnt turn into another EastEnders bashing thread - and I'm certainly not setting the tone of 'EastEnders in crisis' which you often see on these boards I'm simply opening the debate on what you'd like to see happen over the coming months.

From what I gather we have the following to look forward to:

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What do you all think??
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Old 18-06-2007, 11:03
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I think there will be enough storylines to keep EE interesting. As you say we do have these upcoming ones and I think they will all be good.

it would be nice to have a non bashing EE thread so lets hope this one stays how you wish it to good luck
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Old 18-06-2007, 11:24
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There's also a possible
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storyline aswell and
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so no I don't think it will suffer- the stuff that's coming up looks very promising. Every storyline has its course to run and inevitably
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Old 18-06-2007, 11:54
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who is
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Old 18-06-2007, 12:00
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sean and stacey's mum
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Old 18-06-2007, 12:21
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Isn't one of the new Mitchells going to be soaps biggest bitch or something? Sharon Marshall said so a few weeks ago.
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Old 18-06-2007, 12:24
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Blasphemy!!!! Who is Jean indeed!

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Old 18-06-2007, 16:53
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No Eastenders will Carry on regardless - May and Stella are classic characters and will be remembered forever most probably but Eastenders has loads of new talent coming it's way. It's allready got another big storyline to end which is Stacey and Max's affair and it's got very interesting with a reunion of Bradley and Stacey on the cards and a possible proposal in the coming future. Also the Mitchell sisters sound like they will liven up the square and Jay's dad turns up in walford too - it should be a great summer
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Old 18-06-2007, 16:54
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I think it will suffer for a while but then hopefully will get back on it's feet. May/Rob/Dawn and Stella/Ben are very powerful storylines and once they have finished the only big story left is Max/Stacey. Others will start but we will have no climax's for a while yet.
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Old 18-06-2007, 17:03
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I don't think Eastenders will suffer. The May and Stella storylines may have been the most dominant, but i think new storylines will soon take centre stage and withhold our interest.
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I have every confidence that EE will manage to withhold the viewer's interest.
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Old 18-06-2007, 17:16
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didn't know about the rumoured engagement
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Old 18-06-2007, 18:03
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going to miss may not sure about stella she does nt seem to have been in it a lot lately
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Old 18-06-2007, 18:49
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Don't know how to put something in spoiler "cover" but regarding the secret of a certain lady, what is it ????
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Old 18-06-2007, 19:08
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i'm upset that

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but

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Old 18-06-2007, 19:11
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EastEnders has a lot coming up. Although I will definitely miss Dr. May and Stella, I think Diederick Santer has been excellent for EastEnders and am thus confident he can maintain how good the soap is at the moment.
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Old 18-06-2007, 22:10
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The writers could have easily saved May’s character if they were more creative she could have had a bout of counselling and medication which could stretch 4 to 6 months then she could have a relapse (and who says she has to still want a baby or be involved with Dawn)
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Old 18-06-2007, 22:17
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Old 18-06-2007, 22:20
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Personally I think EE is going to suffer for at least a little while after the climax of these two storylines - mainly because nothing seems to be being built up to replace it. With only the Stacey and Max storyline left as one of the shows front runners we will have to wait for any kind of advance with other storylines.

Personally I think either May or Stella should have stayed throughout the Summer - personally I'd say Stella, because May's storyline was always going to reach its dramatic peak at the Baby's birth. I think Stella's arc should have played out over the Summer (despite being a hard-hitting storyline).

To be honest, I'm not enthralled with what they have planned for the summer for Jane/Shirley/Max/Stacey - what I think would be really interesting is that if the Stax fall out lead to a kind of breakdown in Stacey's character.
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Old 18-06-2007, 22:21
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Also isn't there a storyline
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- that could be very good
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Old 18-06-2007, 22:32
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Stella's exit also....
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Old 18-06-2007, 22:32
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Personally I think EE is going to suffer for at least a little while after the climax of these two storylines - mainly because nothing seems to be being built up to replace it. With only the Stacey and Max storyline left as one of the shows front runners we will have to wait for any kind of advance with other storylines.

Personally I think either May or Stella should have stayed throughout the Summer - personally I'd say Stella, because May's storyline was always going to reach its dramatic peak at the Baby's birth. I think Stella's arc should have played out over the Summer (despite being a hard-hitting storyline).

To be honest, I'm not enthralled with what they have planned for the summer for Jane/Shirley/Max/Stacey - what I think would be really interesting is that if the Stax fall out lead to a kind of breakdown in Stacey's character.
Dont you feel this storyline has lost its edge due to the long hiatus, when it was on today I was like "this again"
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Old 18-06-2007, 22:36
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May could not have stayed unless they dragged the story out some more with her watching the baby and eventually losing it even more to the point of being sectioned or killing herself.
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Old 18-06-2007, 22:45
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Dont you feel this storyline has lost its edge due to the long hiatus, when it was on today I was like "this again"
The finger has slipped off the pulse slightly, but at the end of the day this is a hard-hitting storyline. I might sound like a sadist but EE have really been breaking new ground with both Stella and May (who I felt utterly sympathetic to in tonight's episode) and while storylines have a certain life expectancy and certain characters have a certain shelf life, I don't believe that Stella has reached that "use by" date yet. That said EE has received a number of complaints about the story but to me that shows just how ground breaking it is and is an absolute testament to what Dierdrick Slanter has done with the show.

So far the Stella story has been handled sensitivly, I just hope the ending isn't completely ruined. I would prefer that the story ended with a "two-hander" episode with Phil and Stella, with Phil actually trying to understand her. The storyline has been underplayed which is why I don't think that the conclusion should be overtly dramatic.

Like I said before I think that the story should have been left to mature over the summer, what with Phil at work and Stella looking after Ben in his summer holidays. It would have been deeply disturbing, but I can understand the reasons for ending the story.

I'd like to see the rumoured Stacey's bi-polar disease come from the fall-out over the Stax affair. It would be classic cause and effect, something which is absent from most soaps now... the Stax affair comes out, Stacey is shunned. Perhaps even a "Who is stalking Stacey?" storyline with Max, Bradley, Deano, Tanya and Stacey herself as the suspects? I don't know but it would be nice to see the character in a much more vulnerable state.
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Old 19-06-2007, 03:59
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I don't think the show will suffer. It is going from strength to strength at the moment.

There might be a lull for a few weeks but I don't think the departures of Stella and May will affect the soap to any great extent.

It sounds like there's plenty of good stuff coming up to keep us entertained and we've got more new characters to look forward to. If they're even half as good as most of the newbies from last year then they'll be fine.

I am looking forward to the new Mitchell sisters and Nina Wadia joining the most.

Shirley is getting a storyline so that's all good. Linda Henry is fabulous, I won't hear a word said against her! Shirley is a really edgy character, very 80s Pat, great fun.

Just loving the show right now and it sounds like it's going to get even better. What about that hot new guy joining to play Jay's dad? Great stuff! The writing is good atm and there have been some superb episodes this year. Most of the newbies from last year have settled in, most fit like a hand in a glove and feel as though they've been in it for years.

I can understand why people are disappointed about May and Stella leaving because they are big characters and have both been a big asset to EastEnders this year but we don't know how long Amanda and Sophie wanted to stay in EastEnders. They might have both said they don't want to stay long term so it's good that they've had something exciting and memorable to do than come in and do nothing for 9 months. It's better than them just being there.

That's why I can't understand when people say that EE are stupid for getting rid of them. I really doubt EE have gotten rid of those two amazing actresses. Their storylines might have boxed them into a corner but they've been exciting and if the actresses weren't planning on sticking around long term anyway, it was worth it.

At least this way both May and Stella are going to go down in history as EE legends and be well remembered. I'd rather that than them coming into the show and being wasted.

I couldn't see either actress committing to the soap long term as both have had great careers before EE and will no doubt go on to do many new projects now they've left. It's a shame but the show goes on.

People were wondering what was going to happen in the 80s when Den left, nothing happened, the show just went on. The show itself is bigger than any of its characters. I will miss both evil Stella and Mad May but EastEnders is the star.
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Old 19-06-2007, 05:36
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The Rob/May/Dawn thing is horribly contrived, and too plot driven. It has had good moments, but has too often been OTT. Amanda Drew is excellent but her character has become a panto villain.

Ben/Stella is a strong storyline which could have been developed much further.

The BBC is afraid of upsetting people, as evidenced by Santer avoiding having a male in the Muslim family coming this summer, thus avoiding a thorny issue.

The Stax storyline is a mess which could end up trivialising mental illness by making it into a Deus Ex Machina for titillation. TV critics will almost certainly accuse EE of this if the storyline leads where many think it will.

The fact that EE did not advance Stacey's character for about 5 months has not helped matters.

I am confidently predicting that it will be revealed that:

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Sean's behaviour in the portakabin points to:
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When Sean discovers the affair, he will surmise Brian's manipulation of Stacey, and seek vengeance on Jean.

When Sean was talking about Stacey drinking and taking drugs, he may have been describing what he did.
Jean turned a blind eye to the abuse of her children.
I believe this is the only logical explanation for the affair with Max.

If Stacey has a breakdown, it will stem from her childhood, as most breakdowns do.
Thus the Jean/Sean storyline will be about the son seeking revenge on his mother; he will urge Stacey to disown her mother in the aftermath.

I would say that Stacey having a breakdown definitely rules out Jean becoming a regular as it will make Sean even more hostile to his mum.

If they turn Stacey into Kat after this I will stop watching.

The Mitchell sisters to me sound like desperation, I'm afraid.

Indeed, my fear is that EE will get desperate, Santer is likely under alot of pressure from the BBC to do something spectacular.
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