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HD Newbie having trouble
GiarcYekrub
23-06-2007
Hi,

My sister has just bought a 15.4" BUSH LCD15W008HD and a ONN SW2411A-DIVX with a HDMI Lead.

The problem we are having is that we can only seem to get a ED(480p/576p) output and when we try the 720p and 1080i modes the TV display overlay indicates a resolution change but what we see is a mess mainly just noise with the occassional flicker of a picture,green screen... pressing some random buttons occassionally gets a stable blank light blue screen.

The DVD instruction booklet just indicates "It may take a while for the DVD player and input device to comunicate and intialise" Is there a way of making it intialise? Does it have to do this every time? How long is a while?

I'm not sure if the TV is faulty or the DVD or even the HDMI lead. These are the only HD devices we have so we can't use trial and error to eliminate possible faults.

Thankyou for any help
Nigel Goodwin
23-06-2007
To be honest I'm some what dubious about an HD Ready portable?, and you don't have any HD source either. An upscaling DVD isn't HD, and the TV will already upscale a normal DVD in exactly the same way.
GiarcYekrub
24-06-2007
Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin:
“To be honest I'm some what dubious about an HD Ready portable?, and you don't have any HD source either. An upscaling DVD isn't HD, and the TV will already upscale a normal DVD in exactly the same way.”

Sorry I'm a total Newbie... I thought 720p and 1080i were classed as HD.
Jarrak
24-06-2007
Originally Posted by GiarcYekrub:
“Sorry I'm a total Newbie... I thought 720p and 1080i were classed as HD.”




They are HD class resolutions but the source material you are watching is not native HD so just upping the res doesn't make it HD.
Taking a black and white movie and colourising it doesn't make it the same as being made in colour, if you get what I mean


There is native HD which is source material that was shot/filmed in a resolution that is equal or greater than HD requires then there is upscaled HD which is SD (PAL/NTSC material) upscaled using a mathematically process to fill in the gaps between SD res and HD res.

Marketing people have used the confusion some people have over HD to sell "cheap" DVD players that upscale SD DVD. People are lead to believe it is in some way comparable to a proper HD DVD or Blu-ray player and ignore the fact that a HD TV does the upscaling by default anyway.

Back onto the main topic it could be an issue with the HDCP handshaking (takes less than a second at worse) between the DVD and TV but HDCP would normally be active even when sending SD over a HDMI link.
So to me I would look at a fundamental hardware issue with one or both of the units assuming that we are not missing some obvious menu setting.

Someone you know will have either a HD display or a HDMI source to experiment before taking it b
GiarcYekrub
24-06-2007
No we're the 1st people we know to get a HD set, Personally I like the clearer picture offered by the ED setting and we were using this set as a tester to see if we really need HD, I don't think so.

We have so many SD DVD's it'd be pointless to upgrade if your telling be I'd have to buy them on a different format the upscaling of normal dvds sounded a great option but if it does nothing more than what the TV does it self to a ED picture I guess I'm not missing much.
Jarrak
24-06-2007
Well I would say that going down the HD route for TV viewing with such a small screen size has it's limits so buying a HD player which costs upto 5 times the cost of the TV is questionable

One of the issues with SD on a HD display is the impact of screen size, the compression/encoding and scaling errors that have to exist are less obvious on the smaller screen.

All that aside does the manual indicate the HDCP is used on the HDMI input at all times?
GiarcYekrub
24-06-2007
The DVD manual is pretty much useless it's got 1 page on using the HDMI lead and 90% of that is a diagram of how to connect it to the TV.
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