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Will BB4 be the last of the great BBs?
Borath
09-05-2003
All genres of TV series come to an end, and reality TV has been over-done in the last few years. So, I have been wondering if Big Brother 4 will be the last of the great Brig Bothers. Will the viewers start to decline?

Personally, I didn't like BB1 at the start (I thought it was a heap of cr*p) but half way through I started to get hooked and couldn't wait for BB2. I eagerly awaited BB2 and BB3 to start, call me sad - but I just couldn't wait to see them start. After BB3 ended, I was so depressed!

I have had about 8 months to recover. With BB4 quickly approaching, I am not over-enthusiastic unlike BB2/3. I still be watching from day one, but I am wondering it I can gain my enthusiasm back for the show! I have to wait and see what the contestants (housemates) are like?

Any thoughts?
Eusebius
09-05-2003
A lot of people were feeling the same pre-BB3 about that. I think it largely depends on if they're lucky enough to find real characters who can set the show alight. BB3 only started to come alive towards the end of the first week thanks to Alex; BB1 had been plodding along until the Nasty Nick incident propelled the show into the wider public imagination, and BB2 was dominated by Brian.

I think BB is best-placed to survive any anti-reality show backlash which may occur (if it has not already started), eg because it was the first one of its genre, and has developed a cult identity and fanbase.
It may, like many previous long-running shows before it, start going downhill in terms of popularity if the show and its contestants lose originality, becoming, and be seen transparently as, nothing more than a tv career platform, with people following the artificial kate/jonny stage-performance formula for success. Rather than genuine characters who can entertain us by sheer force of compelling personality and charisma, and their social interactions thereof, which is what I prefer to see.

I suppose it can only get harder for it to maintain freshness and originality with each successive year. Things will have been done before by previous contestants, so perhaps it may find itself having to become more and more 'outrageous', with the danger of it eventually become a parody and so ridiculous that people start switching off because they don't care anymore.
Maxiii
09-05-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Borath
All genres of TV series come to an end, and reality TV has been over-done in the last few years. So, I have been wondering if Big Brother 4 will be the last of the great Brig Bothers. Will the viewers start to decline?

Personally, I didn't like BB1 at the start (I thought it was a heap of cr*p) but half way through I started to get hooked and couldn't wait for BB2. I eagerly awaited BB2 and BB3 to start, call me sad - but I just couldn't wait to see them start. After BB3 ended, I was so depressed!

I have had about 8 months to recover. With BB4 quickly approaching, I am not over-enthusiastic unlike BB2/3. I still be watching from day one, but I am wondering it I can gain my enthusiasm back for the show! I have to wait and see what the contestants (housemates) are like?

Any thoughts?
”

My first thought is Bring it on!

This series is the most intriguing for me because of the impact of BB3. 'Beat that' springs to mind, but there are plenty of people who thought BB3 was awfull.But it's the peak of what seven to ten million (at the final at least) that they are interested in happening again.

Im sure Endemol are fully prepared to increase the show's content to make up to the viewer if the HM's do not spark off huge interest.
Endemol can have events to include if the show seems set to be a bit stilted - we already know they are hedging their bets by having the extra HM's waiting in the wings, or 'loft'.

Still, the best thing that could happen is we get another set of HM's ,at least two, who are characters and who crucially go on to have real discourse and who create a relationship with each other and the others, to provide us with another mini 'real life' 'soap'.

I have a feeling this will be the best one yet. If only because it has great potential to be a hilarious attempt by some HM's to be nothing like Alex Jade Kate,Jonny - and by some to be just like them, and by others who are unwittingly emulating them because they watched it last year and can't rid themselves of it.

But BB3 will always be my defining experience as it was my first.
When it ended the withdrawal symptoms were ferocious.
These symptoms are complex and wide ranging I expect, but I think the core of it is the attacks by the media and other people who disliked the HM's we liked. We follow them on to try to resolve them into how we best see them, to help make them winners. We are expressing fundamental parts of our own identities through them and seek to protect that.
So it does become personal.
I presume I will be sufficiently warned this time around.
Think a picture of Jade Kate Adele and Alex on top of my TV whilst BB4 is on should help to keep me from becoming involved this time around. : Jade: Kate: Adele: Alex :
Eusebius
10-05-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Maxiii
.... and who crucially go on to have real discourse.... ”

On scan-reading your post Maxiii, for a second at first glance I thought that read "...and who crucially go on to have real intercourse..."



(... but perhaps the BB producers would agree with that?)

ps. Agree with your thoughts -- I think I read the rest of your post correctly

pps. LTNS.... *Hugs back* (hope we end up on the same side for BB4!)
Maxiii
10-05-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by mystic_nutmeg
On scan-reading your post Maxiii, for a second at first glance I thought that read "...and who crucially go on to have real intercourse..."



(... but perhaps the BB producers would agree with that?)

ps. Agree with your thoughts -- I think I read the rest of your post correctly
”

Thank you for that. I will try to be a little more guarded with my subliminal in future. In fact I feel so embarrassed I may not watch BB4 at all.
Eusebius
10-05-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Maxiii
Thank you for that. I will try to be a little more guarded with my subliminal in future. In fact I feel so embarrassed I may not watch BB4 at all. ”

discourse...intercourse.... well, they both can have virtually the same meaning, i suppose...

and perhaps within the discourse/ intercourse between such two HMs, there will be frequent ejaculations* ?

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Maxiii
10-05-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by mystic_nutmeg
discourse...intercourse.... well, they both can have virtually the same meaning, i suppose...

and perhaps within the discourse/ intercourse between such two HMs, there will be frequent ejaculations* ?

[size=1]*sense 2 [/size]

”

The closest I can find for 'discourse' (steady...) in my old and limited dictionary is 'utter' - which can be used to link as a meaning to 'ejaculate' as well but you would have to include then - the part. Or not. To be absolutely sure. One way or the other.
TOML
10-05-2003
Big brother 1 hit me during the thrid week and i was hooked forever and then big brother 2 came and loved it. Last year the show was over the top at times with the prison bars and the rich/poor side thing. I think the show will struggle over the next few years as people will soon get sick of it. But i watch any day over the awful celbrity get me out here crap.
richthe4th
10-05-2003
i don't think it will die out that quickly .other countries have had many, many big brothers.
hunnybabe
10-05-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Borath
All genres of TV series come to an end, and reality TV has been over-done in the last few years. So, I have been wondering if Big Brother 4 will be the last of the great Brig Bothers. Will the viewers start to decline?

Personally, I didn't like BB1 at the start (I thought it was a heap of cr*p) but half way through I started to get hooked and couldn't wait for BB2. I eagerly awaited BB2 and BB3 to start, call me sad - but I just couldn't wait to see them start. After BB3 ended, I was so depressed!

I have had about 8 months to recover. With BB4 quickly approaching, I am not over-enthusiastic unlike BB2/3. I still be watching from day one, but I am wondering it I can gain my enthusiasm back for the show! I have to wait and see what the contestants (housemates) are like?

Any thoughts?
”

BB2 was my all time favourite in the series but it would have been even better without Brian though.
sharon_fott
09-06-2003
BB4 has become the series that jumped the shark ....
ben4321
09-06-2003
Don't agree with that. IMO, it "jumped the shark" content wise with BB3 and BB4 is a recovery of sorts.

I must admit though that each year I've thought "I really shouldn't watch it this year."

Maybe next year, I'll manage to avoid BB totally.
sharon_fott
09-06-2003
perhaps you and I could get married next year Ben. It's a leap year so I can propose to you ....
ben4321
09-06-2003
Are you rich, Sharon?
sharon_fott
09-06-2003
yes

r u hung like a donkey ?
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