When Tina was originally planning the wedding, she planned it for Nanna McQueen's birthday. Was that not 22nd June?


I don't think Mercedes did it. She doesn't have an axe to grind with Clare like the others do - she justs wants to swindle her out of £10k

it was someone else before me that posted the 13th i was just repling to their message so it could well have been the 22nd i dont know!

and yeah thats what i thought too mercedes doesnt have enough motive

There is supposed to be a twist in he story, i hope the twist is that none of the "official" suspects pushed her.

I think it would be better if one of the suspects pushed her, although maybe a twist is that no one they suspected actually pushed her!

i dont see the point in hollyoaks releasing the five suspects to the viewers if one of them isnt going to be the pusher, i think they released those five so that we could all speculate about which one it is but everyone seems to think its either like mercedes or tom and their not even suspects!

I don't think it's warren, its too obvious !

Yeah Warren is too obvious especially after what he has been saying!

It has got to be on of the other 4 suspects and I am thinking either Louise or OB- just can't definitely choose one of them though- but I hope it is one of them.

As I don't think Max would do it and the blood on his hands were a bit random as when Clare was pushed she wouldn't of had any blood on her and I doubt he went down and touched her after she fell as very soon after she fell the McQueen sisters found her.

As for Calvin- I don't think he would risk his job- he hated Clare but wouldn't do something like that I don't think. I think when he said he was going to see her he wanted to talk to her and find out why she had done what she had but then either saw the person who pushed Clare- push her- or saw her fall and thats when he went off and why we saw him walking up the stairs looking over.

Exactly what i thought. Do you remember, he was watching videos of Tom and he was drinking beer, then he was upset and smashed the bottle. It will probably turn out, that he was cleaning the smashed bottle up and cut himself.

I think its Louise because she is the least likely. She's really sweet and you wouldn't think she would have it in her

Yeah I was thinking Max had either cut himself on something or been so angry he had gone and hit a wall or something.

Louise is the least likely as she doesn't look like someone who would do it. Although she does have a past that involved Sean and Warren in Ibiza, so maybe she is capable of more than we think!

Yeah good point, poor Calvin though !

Yeah I feel sorry for him especially at the moment, he is suspended from work and really down. But the he and Louise give each other alibis and sleep with each other to like seal the deal- I think that is wierd!

yes.... did nt max throw a bottle of beer at the wall he proberly cut himself picking up the glass

Yeah thats what i was thinking because he wouldn't have blood on his hands from pushing her.
Since she was pushed, i have found the story boring. The lead up was amazing but its gone downhill since then. Hopefully it will get really good again.

I have to agree its a bit boring at the moment, although once Clare wakes up I am sure it will get good again. I am enjoying the other stuff at the moment- especially JP and Craig!

If you saw the one on E4 she woke up and said who pushed her and its still bloody boring.

JP and Craig is boring as hell its just dragging on and on and on.

I'm only finding the clare story boring, but the JP and craig story is amazing, i think they are both brilliant actors and the story has me hooked.

Oh ont get me wrong i think the acting is great esp John Paul but the story itself is wearing thin on me.

i love it ! More, i say !!!!!!

Clare doesn't die does she??

She clearly jumped of her own accord.

I'm convinced it's Calvin's Dad that pushed Clare - Leo isn't it? He was in the footage the night she was pushed. He was talking with Calvin about his woes with Louise and said something along the lines of do you want a hug.....and when Calvin said no he asked him what he DID want him to do. I think it's all about him being a rubbish father and finally wanting to really do something to show his son how much he loves him.

Could be me and my gy was talking about that being a possibility.

And no I don't think Clare dies in tonights C4 episode:

she tells the police it was warren so he will be arrested because they hate each other. It will be a while before the real culprit is revealed.

I think its OB. I remember reading somewhere about the actor going on a extended holiday- could be that the character disapears to evade the police after he is revealed as the murderer.

I'm slowly swaying into the "OB did it" camp. I dunno why - just something about how he is the one to continuously say it's Clare's fault Tom is in care - which it is but still. It's like he wants Max to hate her too so he doesn't get shut out for trying to kill her.