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Joosee
26-06-2007
Fat?? is that it??

Thats rubbish!!

what a ridiculous ending to a much hyped storyline.

"Jane's secret is revealed"

big wow...there are worse things than being fat.
EE Fan
26-06-2007
Originally Posted by Joosee:
“Fat?? is that it??

Thats rubbish!!

what a ridiculous ending to a much hyped storyline.

"Jane's secret is revealed"

big wow...there are worse things than being fat. ”

I don't think it's just about her being fat, I think it's highlighting the bullying that she was put through because of who she was. I think's it's very down to earth and realistic myself.
elvis86
26-06-2007
Originally Posted by Cjworrell88:
“
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She used to be fat,
”

OH my god!

Thats hysterical!

I suppose to be fair its been viewers etc building it up, not the show itself?
SoapWorld
26-06-2007
Jane looks hideous when they finally wed, why on earth she would wish to marry looking like that is beyond me.
chouhan
26-06-2007
yep, that definately is stellas secret, the child killer storyline!
drakaina
28-06-2007
Originally Posted by Joosee:
“Fat?? is that it??

Thats rubbish!!

what a ridiculous ending to a much hyped storyline.

"Jane's secret is revealed"

big wow...there are worse things than being fat. ”


LOL, it was only hyped by people on forums and in soap magazines, never by EE.

And, I imagine that to those who are being bullied about their weight , it feels like the worst thing in the world.
elvis86
28-06-2007
Originally Posted by chouhan:
“yep, that definately is stellas secret, the child killer storyline!”

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...ecret+revealed

..Looks I was nearly right..
Bonga Bonga
28-06-2007
Originally Posted by drakaina:
“LOL, it was only hyped by people on forums and in soap magazines, never by EE.

And, I imagine that to those who are being bullied about their weight , it feels like the worst thing in the world.”

Any bullying is bad to be honest. If it was very serious then I can actually understand Jane wanting to run from her past.
davey_wavey
28-06-2007
Originally Posted by elvis86:
“http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...ecret+revealed

..Looks I was nearly right..”

Haha i remember speculating in that thread and everything!

This secret is quite a dissapointment for me personally. After all the hype towards her secret and all the speculation on this forum, i was expecting her secret to be something pretty big so that's why i'm dissapointed, but i'm still looking forward to the episode where she tells Ian why she changed her name - i suppose this storyline will be going down the realistic and down to earth route, rather than the sensationalist route which i think is kind of a good thing.
performingmonk
28-06-2007
This storyline better not have been changed because of the Madeleine kidnap. Personally I don't think her changing her name because she used to be bullied is a good enough storyline, especially considering it has been planned for a while. It should be bigger than this (no pun intended there).
elvis86
28-06-2007
Originally Posted by davey_wavey:
“Haha i remember speculating in that thread and everything!

This secret is quite a dissapointment for me personally. After all the hype towards her secret and all the speculation on this forum, i was expecting her secret to be something pretty big so that's why i'm dissapointed”

It does seem really awfully mundane now, I know EE didn't really hype it up that much in comparison to forums etc, but they have been saying for ages that she had a secret so this still seems a bit lame!

Theory 1: Its a red herring to give viewers a real suprise, which makes a change in soap!

Theory 2: Maybe something more dramatic was planned and pulled for some unknown reason, but in the writing stages and prior to filming etc so wasn't leaked to the press?

If the child killer storyline isn't Stella's and was complete fabrication, I reckon EE must be aware of rumours etc that go round and should have adopted this plot because it would of been great and a lot of people felt really strongly about it (on here at least).
sophie16
28-06-2007
I would have loved to see the child killer stroryline.As far as im aware no soap has yet done it so it would have been fantastic to watch something new.
soapdiva
28-06-2007
Good god, nearly spat my coffee all over my keyboard when I read this. She used to be fat so she had to change her name because she was bullied? That should make thrilling viewing I don't think!
nanamoan
29-06-2007
I too read this in IS this week - to be honest I think it is insulting to people who do get horrendously bullied, and are violently threatened AND to people that are overweight - as if changing your name would do anything. You are still the same person. Yet another cop out and crap storyline conclusion and since when did Heather become Janes friend? She is even at the wedding - she only came into it this week as Shirleys mate? How do I get a job writing for EE? My own life is much more interesting than the rubbish that churns out on the square
elvis86
29-06-2007
Originally Posted by nanamoan:
“Yet another cop out and crap storyline conclusion and since when did Heather become Janes friend? She is even at the wedding - she only came into it this week as Shirleys mate? How do I get a job writing for EE? My own life is much more interesting than the rubbish that churns out on the square
”

I agree. Heather's arrival has been so rushed, and the 'fat secret' is just so lame, it makes me wonder if this was always planned??

I also think its a bit lame to bring in a fat character purely as a plot device. The fact that she's a comically reclusive loser is a bit stereotypical too, why could they not just bring in a well rounded character who happened to be a size 18?
Last edited by elvis86 : 29-06-2007 at 11:47
Bonga Bonga
29-06-2007
Originally Posted by nanamoan:
“I too read this in IS this week - to be honest I think it is insulting to people who do get horrendously bullied, and are violently threatened AND to people that are overweight - as if changing your name would do anything. You are still the same person. Yet another cop out and crap storyline conclusion and since when did Heather become Janes friend? She is even at the wedding - she only came into it this week as Shirleys mate? How do I get a job writing for EE? My own life is much more interesting than the rubbish that churns out on the square
”


Actually a lot of people who do get bullied run from their past and try to start again. Until you have been there I doubt you could understand it. Bullying of any kind is just appauling and leaves scares for years. Some people have their whole lives ruined by fear of events from childhood repeating in adulthood. Its perfectly understandable for someone at the hands of this sort of thing to change and start again. They find it hard to move on from the past otherwise.
drakaina
29-06-2007
Originally Posted by nanamoan:
“I too read this in IS this week - to be honest I think it is insulting to people who do get horrendously bullied, and are violently threatened AND to people that are overweight - as if changing your name would do anything. You are still the same person.”

Not true. It's really hard to step outside the person that bullying has made you become. Often, even a change of environment does not resolve the issue and bullying victims very often become a victim in a new school as well because it is a very hard to overcome the role that you think everyone expects you to play, you just slip back into it. The psychological issue with bullying is that it alters the way you perceive yourself. A change of name is a drastic, but often effective way for a person to help themselves overcome this.

I guess it might sound silly if you have never been in a situation where others have knocked your confidence so badly that you really feel worthless.
Bonga Bonga
29-06-2007
Originally Posted by drakaina:
“Not true. It's really hard to step outside the person that bullying has made you become. Often, even a change of environment does not resolve the issue and bullying victims very often become a victim in a new school as well because it is a very hard to overcome the role that you think everyone expects you to play, you just slip back into it. The psychological issue with bullying is that it alters the way you perceive yourself. A change of name is a drastic, but often effective way for a person to help themselves overcome this.

I guess it might sound silly if you have never been in a situation where others have knocked your confidence so badly that you really feel worthless.”

I agree. I think its one of the most realistic storylines soap have done for years.
Stev0
29-06-2007
Originally Posted by rachjenn:
“I'mnot sure but i've got a feeling this may be the way
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Stella's storyline
is heading

NExt wk
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Phil is suppose to go and meet the future inlaws and is shocked to see a picture of Stella and her sister - Stellas mum then insinuates that Stella must tell phil the truth!
”

Yep, Stella finally tells Phil the truth. Her secret is

Spoiler
She used to be fat!!
elvis86
29-06-2007
Originally Posted by Stev0:
“Yep, Stella finally tells Phil the truth. Her secret is

Spoiler
She used to be fat!!
”

..Really? I heard that Phil spots the picture of the two girls, and when Stell's mother points out which one is Stella, Stella will be forced to reveal

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..that she is naturally ginger!
fickrick
29-06-2007
Jane does not strike me as someone who used to be bullied, she is a pretty strong person, though she did take care of her terminally ill husband which in a weird way would give her a degree of power and therefore confidence. Perhaps other more serious demons will come out, maybe she was fat but killed one of her tormentors. (remember little Anthony in brookie)
God I have way to much time on my hands!
NOZ
29-06-2007
Originally Posted by elvis86:
“ ..Really? I heard that Phil spots the picture of the two girls, and when Stell's mother points out which one is Stella, Stella will be forced to reveal

Spoiler
..that she is naturally ginger!
”

Spoiler
That she used to be a fat bald man called Stan
Thumbolina
29-06-2007
Originally Posted by rachjenn:
“I'mnot sure but i've got a feeling this may be the way
Spoiler
Stella's storyline

is heading

NExt wk
Spoiler
Phil is suppose to go and meet the future inlaws and is shocked to see a picture of Stella and her sister - Stellas mum then insinuates that Stella must tell phil the truth!
”

Originally Posted by Stev0:
“Yep, Stella finally tells Phil the truth. Her secret is
Spoiler
She used to be fat!!
”

This is all confusing me. I thought it was Jane's secret that she was
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fat
and Phil finally finds out that Stella's secret is
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something to do with her sister - maybe that she killed her
.Also I thought the Stella reveal was tonight [Friday 29th] and the Jane story starts properly next week.

Russ_WWFC
30-06-2007
Eastenders has been a stinking crock of turd for ages now and has been going downhill for years
Malik24
30-06-2007
Originally Posted by Russ_WWFC:
“Eastenders has been a stinking crock of turd for ages now and has been going downhill for years”

Thank you for your well explained and well thought out argument.
You have now convinced me that I should never watch EastEnders again.
This has brought upon compelling discoveries.
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