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Doctor Who - Christmas Special 2007 - Voyage of the Damned - Speculation Thread
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The Slug
09-12-2007
Originally Posted by simmons_5251:
“can anyone actaully tell me who or what spoiler is?”

After writing a fascinating dissertation on the nature of spoilers, I've just realized I probably misunderstood your question.

I'll keep that text afterwards because otherwise I've just wasted a chunk of my life, but to answer what I now think is your question...

The Master and Romana are both Time Lords - well Romana is/was a Time Lady who was also The Doctor's companion for a while in the Classic series, later part of the Tom Baker era.

Now for that rambling essay...

An interesting question, and worthy of a thread of its own - no doubt there have been one or two in the past.

The simple answer is a comment about an episode (or film/book/etc) that spoils someone's enjoyment when they watch (etc) for the first time.

When discussing future episodes some people will mention facts and some will speculate.

In my opinion, speculation is not a spoiler - anyone can guess anything, and should be free to do so - indeed I'll often get quite annoyed about people putting spoiler quotes around obvious speculation, but that's a rant for another day.

On the other hand, facts about an episode, maybe from someone who has seen filming, would definitely be a spoiler and should be flagged as such.

But then there are all sorts of grey areas. How about talking about an episode that has been broadcast in one country but not in another - or a series that is running at different paces on different channels? DS tends to have threads for the different paces that viewers may be watching at, which is all well and good, but if someone wants to ask a general question, unrelated to a series thread, they might get answers from people at different paces which might consequently lead to plot points being revealed before some FMs are ready. In such a situation my argument would be that (for DS) the episodes that have been broadcast on UK (analogue) terrestrial channels are 'in the public domain' and info on them is not a spoiler. This definition may need to be varied in the future as digital TV developments mean more channels are freely available to "everyone."

What about trailers? The latest VotD trailer was on BBC1 on Saturday evening, but some of the discussion of it had elements 'spoilered'. I'd say this is unnecessary, as the material has effectively been broadcast, and again is in the public domain. I know others would disagree.

What about newspaper and magazine articles? Assuming they have correct information (another debate for another time!) I think that information in these can definitely be regarded as a spoiler.

And then you have the speculation that people make on top of actual spoilers. They're guessing, but reading their guess may give you hints which effectively make them spoilers.

Oh what a tangled web we weave!
simmons_5251
09-12-2007
i know i thought it ment some kind of crazy alien


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Mansun
09-12-2007
Originally Posted by simmons_5251:
“i know i thought it ment some kind of crazy alien”

That would be a good gag actually - if they intoduced a race of aliens called 'The Spoilers'. Just think of the chaos it would cause on internet forums, with endless confusion over thread titles like "Spoilers for season 5!"
kalekala
10-12-2007
Originally Posted by Mansun:
“That would be a good gag actually - if they intoduced a race of aliens called 'The Spoilers'. Just think of the chaos it would cause on internet forums, with endless confusion over thread titles like "Spoilers for season 5!" ”

I just realized I forgot to mark the spoiler I posted earlier. Are we able to go back and edit? Sorry!

As for my speculation:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/galle...7_x/800/20.jpg
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/galle...7_x/800/22.jpg

I believe these two are probably Slitheen.
Corwin
13-12-2007
Interesting bit of info in the Radio times online description

Spoiler
When disaster hits the Titanic, the Doctor uncovers a threat to the whole human race. Battling alongside aliens, saboteurs, robot Angels and a new friend called Astrid, can he stop the Christmas inferno?


So it seems
Spoiler
the Host (Angels) and the Doctor may be on the same side. Or are they the bad guys to start with but are later forced to work alongside the Doctor.
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chuffnobbler
14-12-2007
The TV Mag I just squinted at in WH Smiths on my lunch hour said the Christmas baddies are

Spoiler
Axons


Do we think this is likely?

chuff.x.
Corwin
14-12-2007
Originally Posted by chuffnobbler:
“The TV Mag I just squinted at in WH Smiths on my lunch hour said the Christmas baddies are

Spoiler
Axons


Do we think this is likely?

chuff.x.”

Not any more.
carl.waring
15-12-2007
I just saw a fairly long trailer for the show; probably the one on YT. In it "The Titanic" is a ship in space. Did everyone else pick that or did anyone (like me) think it was the other Titanic?

Incidently, I love that music! However, wasn't that "Rose's Theme"?
Corwin
16-12-2007
Originally Posted by carl.waring:
“I just saw a fairly long trailer for the show; probably the one on YT. In it "The Titanic" is a ship in space. Did everyone else pick that or did anyone (like me) think it was the other Titanic?

Incidently, I love that music! However, wasn't that "Rose's Theme"?”

No that's "Flavias Theme" (well that's what RTD calls it, not sure what the official name is) played when they want a weird Time Lord vibe.

The long trailer can be seen on the BBC red button, a lot better than watching on youtube or the official website.
Corwin
16-12-2007
Reading the Times article on VotD I noticed this bit.

Quote:
“Later, waiting for a cab, Edward Russell points out that “Astrid”, Kylie’s character’s name, is an anagram of Tardis. “Russell didn’t say anything about it. We just noticed. You never know with him whether it means something very significant, or not.””

This was said by Edward Russell after the first script readthough for VotD so it seems there is no mention of Astrid being the TARDIS in the script.
littlemissvixen
17-12-2007
I'm afraid that this may just be the BBC throwing in red herrings, but I'm sure Billie Piper does appear in this clip (at around the 28 second mark) in period costume not unlike Kylie's...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=t343kthOO0I

but then again she is nowhere to be seen in the actual DW trailer?

Oh I'm begining to think I'm imagining things in my excitement!!
CAMERA OBSCURA
17-12-2007
Originally Posted by littlemissvixen:
“I'm afraid that this may just be the BBC throwing in red herrings, but I'm sure Billie Piper does appear in this clip (at around the 28 second mark) in period costume not unlike Kylie's...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=t343kthOO0I

but then again she is nowhere to be seen in the actual DW trailer?

Oh I'm begining to think I'm imagining things in my excitement!! ”

Sorry to be the one to quash your excitement, but the clip of Billie Piper is from a different program, there are a few different shows within that BBC Christmas trailer. Sorry.
littlemissvixen
17-12-2007
Argh knew it was too good to be true! they did that on purpose!! lol

Still, hasn't lessened my excitement at all! I still can't wait!
audra73
17-12-2007
Not sure if this is the right thread to ask this, but is the Christmas Special repeated at all?
I have the mother-in-law coming for tea and she will insist on watching the Emmerdale!
Gogfumble
17-12-2007
Originally Posted by audra73:
“Not sure if this is the right thread to ask this, but is the Christmas Special repeated at all?
I have the mother-in-law coming for tea and she will insist on watching the Emmerdale!”

No idea, I am making sure I Sky+ before I go away for Christmas though, just in case. And I will also use my dads DVD recorder to record it.
Corwin
17-12-2007
Originally Posted by audra73:
“Not sure if this is the right thread to ask this, but is the Christmas Special repeated at all?
I have the mother-in-law coming for tea and she will insist on watching the Emmerdale!”


There will be a BBC3 repeat at some point, probably New Years day.
CharlieCroker
17-12-2007
Originally Posted by audra73:
“Not sure if this is the right thread to ask this, but is the Christmas Special repeated at all?
I have the mother-in-law coming for tea and she will insist on watching the Emmerdale!”

The Mother-in-Law should realise whose house it is and abide by the house rules.

Hey, she might even realise that there is life after soaps...

Mark.
17-12-2007
Originally Posted by Corwin:
“There will be a BBC3 repeat at some point, probably New Years day.”

It's on both BBC1 and BBC3 on New Year's Day
audra73
18-12-2007
Originally Posted by CharlieCroker:
“The Mother-in-Law should realise whose house it is and abide by the house rules.

Hey, she might even realise that there is life after soaps...

”


I've just printed your reply and I'm going to show her on Xmas Day (I'm too scared to tell her myself!!)

Thanks to everyone, I will be watching it with a hangover on New Years Day!
The Slug
18-12-2007
Originally Posted by audra73:
“I've just printed your reply and I'm going to show her on Xmas Day (I'm too scared to tell her myself!!)

Thanks to everyone, I will be watching it with a neck brace on New Years Day!”

I fixed that for you.
JCR
19-12-2007
The plot is a bit of a rip off of
Spoiler
Robots of Death
apparently.
jamesp26
19-12-2007
Originally Posted by JCR:
“The plot is a bit of a rip off of
Spoiler
Robots of Death
apparently.”

If it is then thats a good thing. Thats my favorite Dr Who story and one that i always thought would be a good one to remake.
Mark.
19-12-2007
Originally Posted by JCR:
“The plot is a bit of a rip off of
Spoiler
Robots of Death
apparently.”

Even if it is, is it such a bad thing that plots from the "classic" series are used?

It allows the stories to be brought to the screen in a way that could have only been dreamed about in the 60s/70s/80s.
Yoonix
19-12-2007
Originally Posted by kalekala:
“As for my speculation:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/galle...7_x/800/20.jpg
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/galle...7_x/800/22.jpg

I believe these two are probably Slitheen.”

Yip! Portly actors are usually only employed in Who to play villains... particularly Slitheen. Dead giveaway!
Corwin
19-12-2007
Originally Posted by Yoonix:
“Yip! Portly actors are usually only employed in Who to play villains... particularly Slitheen. Dead giveaway! ”


As seen in the SJAs the Slitheen now have technology that allows them to fit into smaller sizes of humans.

After just watching The Leasure Hive it seems the Foamasi have the same technology.
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