[marcouk76]

Hello,

Does anyone know if a radio that combines Wi-fi, DAB and possibly has a MP3 socket is already available in the UK?

I do really like this but it doesn't have DAB yet.

Any better suggestion?

[srhugo]

I don't have the exact info - but it was mentioned here that there was to become a radio available later this year with FM, DAB and wi-fi.

Not sure regarding the MP3 - but all wi-fi radio's have the media player facility anyway.

[marcouk76]

Originally Posted by watsonbotson

I don't have the exact info - but it was mentioned here that there was to become a radio available later this year with FM, DAB and wi-fi.

Not sure regarding the MP3 - but all wi-fi radio's have the media player facility anyway.

Yes, I have found some old posts from March this year talking about that so I was wondering if anything had come out yet... ?

[gazmitch]

I've been waiting for such a product as well - especially something that includes AAC+ decoding and the answer may be provided by the Venice 6 module - it incorporates WiFi, DAB and FM and just needs someone to stick it in a box and watch it fly off the shelves!

[hanssolo]

the Jupiter4 board includes the Venice 6 module to make prodction of a set even easier but no one has done it yet, Pure usually get the frontier-silicon products first.

The Jupiter 4 FS4024 reference platform is a fullyqualified
reference design for WiFi radio applications
requiring a low-cost feature-rich solution. Based
on Frontier Silicon’s Venice 6 WiFi/DAB/FM module,
Jupiter 4 provides a highly flexible architecture enabling
customers to use the design either as-is, modified, or
as a starting point to speed development of custom
OEM products.

http://www.frontier-silicon.com/prod...r4_PB_1448.pdf

A German shop has also had the do everthing Himalaya set coming soon for ages. I think the number refers to the year it will come out rather than the model.
I presume "net" means internet

DRM2009 is a DRM/DAB/FM/AM portable receiver with net and battery operation. With SD Card Slot, Radio can be used also as MP3 Player.
PLAY/Pause function both for DRM and bei DAB
DAB EPG
Radioscape module
a price of approximately 249, - euro

http://www.thiecom.de/himalaya-drm2009.html

[marcouk76]

http://www.frontier-silicon.com/prod...r4_PB_1448.pdf

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I am sorry but what's that? I am looking for a radio set not a micro chip!?!??!!!

[hanssolo]

The platform is production-ready and needs only
industrial design tooling to finish off a complete high quality
audio system.

Strange that Pure or any other company is selling a set based around the new Jupiter4 board/ Venice 6 module? or maybe it's still on the way!

[srhugo]

Originally Posted by marcouk76

http://www.frontier-silicon.com/prod...r4_PB_1448.pdf


I am sorry but what's that? I am looking for a radio set not a micro chip!?!??!!!

I agree - I think I'll wait for more developments before considering this purchase!

[Les Wires]

Originally Posted by gazmitch

I've been waiting for such a product as well - especially something that includes AAC+ decoding !

A dab (aac+)/drm/inet streaming box for a Hi-fi would be excellent, perhaps with inet not having to use the 'Reciva' server would be ideal.

[MikeBr]

Press release from Frontier Silicon:

Rapid Deployment of Wi-Fi/DAB Radio Module

London, 15 October, 2007: Frontier Silicon has secured over ten design wins to date for its Venice 6 Wi-Fi radio solution with leading brands including Roberts Radio and Grundig, marking a significant entry into the emerging stand-alone Internet radio receiver market. Designs using the module include portable and alarm clock radios, CD micro systems, and HiFi tuners, and are expected in the shops by November 2007.

Anthony Sethill, CEO, Frontier Silicon commented: “This year we have expanded our audio business into the emerging Wi-Fi/Internet radio arena and have led the industry in introducing Venice 6, which is the only complete module for Wi-Fi/DAB/DAB+/FM available on the market today. Already over 72 million people in the US alone listen to the radio using the Internet, mainly through their PC, so the prospects for stand-alone Wi-Fi radios are extremely positive.”

Full press release:
http://www.frontier-silicon.com/medi..._rapidepv6.htm

[hanssolo]

Could the Tivoli be the first? (from the Range of DAB+ radios due by year end thread)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ousby/1359510920/
Will it also be just mains or mains/battery operation?

[efo]

http://www.thiecom.de/seite/3/dab-radios.html

This sort of thing any good ? ( 9th one down )
Henry

[Richard John]

I emailed Revo and they say they're going to be annoncing one in December:

Dear Sir,

We are working on a product that combines both DAB & Wi-Fi, this is due to be announced on our website in December.

Thanks for your enquiry,
Support Team

Revo Technologies Ltd
The Inox Building
Caldwellside
Lanark
Scotland
United Kingdom
ML11 7SR

T. 01555 66 61 61
F. 01555 66 33 44

www.revo.co.uk

[hanssolo]

Originally Posted by efo

This sort of thing any good ? ( 9th one down )
Henry

Do you mean the Albrecht which looks like the new Intempo portable http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-7517.aspx

or more likely the 10th, the Trinloc Sinfonie FM/DAB/wi fi which looks interesting and found the spec in English, seems it is even battery powered!.
http://www.trinloc.de/cms/trinloc/in...side=19&nid=99
Not sure about it's CD quality claims or colours!

Sinfonie W is able to play all Internet radio stations and connect the Internet via WLAN. It is also possible to play your music files stored onthe PC via music streaming.
Also DAB Digital Radio reception in CD quality is available. If you like the old analogue world FM the Sinfonie W is also able to receive this.

The internal charging electronics takes care of charging the Li-Ion accu pack. The operation time is approx. 6 hours with the accu pack.
This elegant water resistance designer case has no overweight and you wish the velvety surface, available in trendy and decent colours, to carry with you.

the Sinfonie sets are sold in the UK by Nevada but they don't stock one with DAB/FM and wi fi yet!

[efo]

http://www.trinloc.de/cms/trinloc/in...side=19&nid=99
yes this one. My previous link has altered since I posted, it is now 10th down !
Henry

[SuffolkNigel]

I've read the German PDF on the Trinloc (my German is rusty!), and can't see anything suggesting it supports Real-Audio. For the BBC, that's fairly essential at the moment, though I wonder if it will remain so for the medium term.



Nigel

[hanssolo]

Originally Posted by SuffolkNigel

I've read the German PDF on the Trinloc (my German is rusty!), and can't see anything suggesting it supports Real-Audio. For the BBC, that's fairly essential at the moment, though I wonder if it will remain so for the medium term.



Nigel

From http://www.radiofeeds.co.uk/ the main BBC national services are also now on WMA feeds and the local stations could be received on DAB or FM so other than listen again not too much of a problem, but does seem strange it does not support Real. Wonder if it also supports AAC web streams, should do if it is DAB+ upgradable for Europe but this is not confirmed either.

[wavejockglw]

Have to say that once you get an Internet Radio you would not return to DAB.

Sure the bitrates can sometimes be poor, especially from American stations but its amazing how quickly your ears adapt when you can hear something more than the predictable offerings from UK commercial stations.

With Internet Wi-Fi radios at less than £40 the choice has never been so varied for radio enthusiasts in the UK.

Its all the radio you'll ever need with no drawbacks.

[hanssolo]

As the new Trinloc set is portable then in some places wifi will not work and then you will have to revert back to DAB or FM.
Also if it does not support "Real-Audio" streaming then also DAB or FM will still be needed for BBC local radio.

Originally Posted by wavejockglw

With Internet Wi-Fi radios at less than £40

The Currys IR100 wifi set has now gone backup to full price £79.99 and there are very few portable non mains wi fi sets (PDAs, Revo and soon the Trinloc).

[SuffolkNigel]

The IR-100 is still £40 at PC-World (which, like Currys, is just another store-front for the Dixons group).

At £80, I think I'd suggest spending more on something with a bit better support, or wait for the newer units with DAB,DAB+,Internet in a few months (though probably £150). But at £40, the IR-100 looks worth a punt.

My earlier point about Real-Audio was in relation to the listen-again archive services on the BBC.
For me, this is the point of an Internet Radio w.r.t. BBC transmissions; I can get the BBC broadcast signals very clearly in FM and via Freeview.

[hanssolo]

If the set uses the Venice 6 chipset it should support RealAudio v6 with the other sets in the pipeline from the press release above.
http://www.frontier-silicon.com/prod...r4_PB_1448.pdf
Looks like if it does use the Frontier Silicon chips then it will use the "vTuner web portal" rather than Reciva for updates.

I notice that Roberts Radio have now renamed the DAB section on their website to DAB/Wi-Fi Internet Radios so maybe we will soon see a set from them?

[hanssolo]

I see radio today have a item about Olinda a DAB radio with wifi prototype, on a web search found this from the consultants
http://schulzeandwebb.com/blog/2007/...cial-hardware/

Olinda is a digital radio prototype for the BBC
For the past month we’ve been working on the feasibility of Olinda, a DAB digital radio prototype for the BBC (for non-UK readers: DAB is the local digital radio standard, getting traction globally). That stage is almost over now - oh and yes, it’s feasible - so now’s a good time to talk.

Olinda puts three ideas into practice:

Radios can look better than the regular ‘kitchen radio’ devices. Radios can have novel interfaces that make the whole life-cycle of listening easier. At short runs, wood is more economic as plastic, so we’re using a strong bamboo ply. And forget preset buttons: Olinda monitors your listening habits so switching between two stations is the simplest possible action, with no configuration step.
This can be radio for the Facebook generation. Built-in wifi connects to the internet and uses a social ‘now listening’ site the BBC already have built. Now a small number of your friends are represented on the device: A light comes on, your friend is listening; press a button and you tune in to listen to the same programme.
If an API works to make websites adaptive, participative with the developer community, and have more appropriate interfaces, a hardware API should work just as well. Modular hardware is achievable, so the friends functionality will be its own component operating through a documented, open, hardware API running over serial.
What Olinda isn’t is a far-future concept piece or a smoke-and-mirrors prototype. There’s no hidden Mac Mini–it’s a standalone, fully operational, social, digital radio.

The intention with Olinda is that it’s maximum 9 months out: It’s built around the same embedded DAB and wifi modules the manufacturers use. And it has to be immediately understandable and appealing for the mass market. Shelf-demonstrable is the way to go.

The BBC should be able to take it to industry partners, and for those partners to see it as free, ready-made R&D for the next product cycle. We have a communications strategy ready around this activity.

So that’s why I’m proud to say that, when complete, the BBC will put the IPR of Olinda under an attribution license–the equivalent of a BSD or Creative Commons Attribution. If a manufacturer or some person wants to make use of the ideas and design of the device, they’re free to do so without even checking with the BBC, so long as they put the BBC attribution and copyright for the IPR that’s been used on the bottom.

More later
The feasibility wraps up in the next week or so, as I budget the build phase. When build starts, we have an intern starting–perhaps two (yes, we got a great response to putting those feelers out). But that deserves its own post.

And there’s a lot to talk about. For start, what Olinda will look like (we have drawings and form experiments). And how the Product and Experience approaches will manifest.

That’s for later. In the meantime, here’s the Frontier Silicon Venice 5 module operating on a breadboard:

The website has a photo of the bits of wire and the chipset.