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Older CD's ripped to Mp3 player sound quality! plz help
OnexOne
04-07-2007
hi folks i have a dilema with me older cd's! there are ripped at the same sound bit as any other cd's but the thing is the Sound just seems to be quiter! Even turning my mp3 player up doesnt seem to provide good (louder) enough sound! is there a way to prevent this when ripping to mp3 player! Thanks in advance, doug!
dodgygeeza
04-07-2007
This is just a by-product of modern CD sound engineering/production - sound levels have been constantly creeping up for years now, with the different record companies competing with each other to make their disks the loudest, since this is perceived to be better by consumers. The overall effect is that older CDs now sound quiet by comparison when played at the same volume setting as newer recordings. As for what you can do about it... I'm not sure. Sorry.
chrisjr
04-07-2007
Wonder if dBpoweramp would do the job? I haven't used all it's many tricks but it does have a Volume Normalizer which should let you adjust the volume level in the ripped mp3.

The download comes with 30 day trials of the mp3 and effects options. After that you have to register which is $18 (£9).

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/dmc.htm
moisie
04-07-2007
Some apps allow you to artificially turn up the volume of songs when you play them to balance them with other songs. There is also the factor that some music was just recorded so as to be played louder than others.
toasties
04-07-2007
Another solution maybe to get a "louder" pair of headphones. Headphones with low impedence will sound louder than higher impedence.
sancheeez
04-07-2007
Originally Posted by toasties:
“Another solution maybe to get a "louder" pair of headphones. Headphones with low impedence will sound louder than higher impedence.”

If the problem is that some rips sound louder than others, thats not going to help.

Yes, the quiet ones will sound louder, but the already loud ones will sound VERY loud!
toasties
04-07-2007
Originally Posted by sancheeez:
“If the problem is that some rips sound louder than others, thats not going to help.

Yes, the quiet ones will sound louder, but the already loud ones will sound VERY loud!”

Thats what the volume controls is there for.
moisie
05-07-2007
Originally Posted by toasties:
“Thats what the volume controls is there for.”

Why get louder headphones then?
toasties
05-07-2007
Originally Posted by moisie:
“Why get louder headphones then?”

Because the OP says

"Even turning my mp3 player up doesnt seem to provide good (louder) enough sound!"

So either
- Normalise the tracks, which may be okay for some tracks, but will flatten out the dynamic range of other tracks.
- Buy a new mp3 player or a portable amp
- Buy "louder" headphones.
dslrocks
05-07-2007
Originally Posted by toasties:
“Because the OP says

"Even turning my mp3 player up doesnt seem to provide good (louder) enough sound!"

So either
- Normalise the tracks, which may be okay for some tracks, but will flatten out the dynamic range of other tracks.
- Buy a new mp3 player or a portable amp
- Buy "louder" headphones.”

Or simply listen to it quieter! Why on earth does it need to be so loud ... that the person next to you on the bus/train can hear your music?

I've never really got the concept of listening to your headphones so loud that everyone else can hear it, and that the sound quality distorts (which is the ultimate effect if you listen too loudly through headphones using over loud material).
christocar
05-07-2007
If you have a Creative Zen Vision M player it has a nice function which is called "Smart Volume". This makes your songs the same level as you play from one song to the next. Handy for this.
KAC
05-07-2007
Normalise all the tracks with mp3gain.

http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/
toasties
05-07-2007
Originally Posted by dslrocks:
“Or simply listen to it quieter! Why on earth does it need to be so loud ... that the person next to you on the bus/train can hear your music?

I've never really got the concept of listening to your headphones so loud that everyone else can hear it, and that the sound quality distorts (which is the ultimate effect if you listen too loudly through headphones using over loud material).”

Wow, what a thoroughly irrelevent post. The OP has said that their music is too quiet as it is, so how is turning down the volume. And listening to music loud does not mean that other people can hear it, or that it distorts, if you have a decent pair of headphones
!!11oneone
06-07-2007
'Normalising' doesn't tend to affect dynamic range, so it should sound ok. All it does is to boost everything so that the peak level is at what you set it to be. It's a bit like turning the volume up.

The difference between older recordings and modern ones is that modern ones tend to be more heavily compressed. This means that there is very little difference between quiet bits and loud bits (the dynamic range).

In old recordings, you'd get a peak level, then the quiet parts would be several decibels quieter giving you highs and lows of signal.

In modern ones, everything is basically at the same signal level making the quiet bits sound relatively louder compared to the peaks.

This means that even if your old recordings and new recordings are at the same signal level (usually 0dB), the modern ones will still sound louder.

The 'smart volume' options work by applying this compression to everything, trying to even out peaks and quiet passages. Personally, I think it sounds pretty terrible.

If you wanted to play around a little bit, you could get some audio software and experiment with compression on your older recordings. But essentially all you can do it turn up old CDs and turn down new ones.
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