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Old 20-05-2003, 15:16
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Just click the link at the top of the page and have a look, I think some of his ideas about penalities and treats is good, far better than creating tension by splitting them up into poor and rich side, that really did make me cringe.

But good as some of the suggestions were I am sure some of the fms can come up with far more gratuitiously vicious and demeaning.

A simple one, not particularly cruel is to get the lazy sods up at 5 a.m. and ensure the task is a full time day long, just to give all the streaming viewers something to watch before 3 p.m. If anyone is caught napping loudspeakers play trumpet music till they get up. This regime would start the day after Big Brother had given the HMs a huge drinking binge as a treat of course.
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Old 20-05-2003, 15:47
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Originally posted by Hamlet77
But good as some of the suggestions were I am sure some of the fms can come up with far more gratuitiously vicious and demeaning.
If anyone is caught napping loudspeakers play trumpet music till they get up. This regime would start the day after Big Brother had given the HMs a huge drinking binge as a treat of course.
hello, you given me a further idea ' white noise'.
Play them a really annoying buzz/ fizzing, if they fail the task... all night long.
The sound could be played just ever so quietly, or change in amplitude from time to time. How about only play the sounds when housemates are in the house. Soon as they all go outside into the garden, the racket starts up again.

Sure this is a slow form of mental torture, but its still mostly within 'health and safety guidelines' .

Calrissian : Would 'mentally break' after just 7minutes of the loud trumpeting.
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Old 20-05-2003, 16:05
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Who ever decided that BB was all about torturing the HMs?
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Old 20-05-2003, 16:07
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I think that was my fault with my 'cockroaches in a jam jar' analogies. Sorry.

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Old 20-05-2003, 16:10
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Originally posted by lulu g
Who ever decided that BB was all about torturing the HMs?
Philip Edgar-Jones, I think.
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Old 20-05-2003, 19:05
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I love the idea of giving an unfairly treated housemate a prize!
How funny would it have been if while Jade was bitching about Sophie last year, they announced that Sophie had been awarded a car, and then they hinted at why!
That would make great tension
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Old 20-05-2003, 19:29
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Clarissian,

I've Just read your column & thought I would reply on the forum, rather than a direct email.

I do disagree with some of the things you have said

I think you are spot on with enforcing the rules more strictly & consistantly. However I think that disqualification should be held as a punishment of last resort.

Part of the problem last year, was that the 3 Strikes lacked immediacy. You could be given a strike & go "yeah what??" or "Where's my badge?". BB needs punishments which have effect within the house. Jade not been allowed to nominate is an example, punishing the group by removing alcohol for the transgressions of an individual whould be another. - If you break the rules, you will be unpopular. Also BB must allow the night crew to issue punishments, waiting until the morning for the day shift, allowed multiple transgressions to go unpunished.


Sadly I believe that the show’s producers this BB season will (once again) go for the haft way measure. This is a shame since it makes for the dullest of all possible BB houses.


Last years series was many things, but I would not consider dull to be one of them.


As for the first night. I'm a firm believer in keeping things simple. Put the housemates in, close the doors, watch. We don't need gimmicks or vicious entertainment at the expense of some poor first night evictee.

It is the general view on the forum that we want different housemates from the average media wannabe. Treating housemates with contempt ( which IMO a first night eviction would be) during their stay is not going to encourage people to apply.

The eviction fest that you seem to be proposing is not going to add to the series, people need time to bond. The housemates with each other, & us with them, only once this has happened does it start to get interesting. The pain/tension/emotion of evictions is when it is someone you care about, or hate. I think that if BB really wanted to make the first eviction hurt, do it in the third or forth week, when we are starting to know the housemates.

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I think that the tension & stress in the house, should come from within the group, rather than be artificially induced by BB, if BB is too authoritarian, then he runs the risk of becoming the enemy, having the housemates bond as a team against BB rather than a group of individuals competing. To a degree this happened last year, but not so much that it detracted from events within the house.

BB has the power to manipulate the group dynamic, it should be making use of this power.

The housemates are supposed to be isolated from outside influence, this should include BB, last year BB changed the group dynamic by giving the winner of the task power over the others. This would be good to see again.

Things that did work well in series 3, were the importance of the tasks to the hms, & the continued surprises for the hms. Hopefully both of these will continue.

I'm going to stop as I've rambled on too much, but I did like most of the rest of your ideas

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Old 20-05-2003, 20:00
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Originally posted by gmguru

Last years series was many things, but I would not consider dull to be one of them.


As for the first night. I'm a firm believer in keeping things simple. Put the housemates in, close the doors, watch. We don't need gimmicks or vicious entertainment at the expense of some poor first night evictee.
I think that if BB really wanted to make the first eviction hurt, do it in the third or forth week, when we are starting to know the housemates.
The housemates are supposed to be isolated from outside influence, this should include BB, last year BB changed the group dynamic by giving the winner of the task power over the others. This would be good to see again.

Things that did work well in series 3, were the importance of the tasks to the hms, & the continued surprises for the hms. Hopefully both of these will continue.
Hi, first, i didnt mean to suggest that i thought BB3 was dull, it certainly wasnt dull. But a midway approach just seems the 'dullest' of the 3 main approaches to control.

Maybe i just got a thing about 'booting' people i admit. Maybe even a first night eviction is harsh, but surely a few getting booted in those first few days would have some great novelty value ?

As for the tasks, bb3 tasks i thought were mostly awful. They were way too simple, and not long enough. So, hopefully the weekly task will be a good thing.

Yep, giving one housemate power over who gets nominated is a good thing - i loved seeing alex have to nominate who was to go on which side of the divide.

Finally, yes, surprises for the HM's are always good. I am sure the producers do have a few things that none of us have thought of, so that should be nice.
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Old 20-05-2003, 20:51
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I liked the 'mean and moody' approach last year and the way it kept the housemates on edge and squabbling with each other. It made better TV, and better argument-material, than the previous series.

A ban on smoking for the entire house, after a breach of the rules, could be fun. It's blatantly unfair, and the fur might fly afterwards.
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Old 20-05-2003, 20:59
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Originally posted by Calrissian

As for the tasks, bb3 tasks i thought were mostly awful. They were way too simple, and not long enough. So, hopefully the weekly task will be a good thing.

Yeah I agree, I didn't mean to say otherwise ( I never proof read enough). They were basically pot luck. But they were important to the hms, & that added alot.

Hopefully the producers will have given themselves more time on Saturday nights.
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