damn you beat me to it!!!!!

Well from reading the posts on the boards it seems he did have a number of fans. Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

It was probably a good thing for his club singing career, I would presume so anyway.

Besides, I still think he's a loud mouth gobshite who played up to the cameras whenever it suited him and seemed to orchestrate his BB experience far too much...of course that could all be opinionated clap trap...but tis what I think

The public voting didn't lie, he had lots of fans (or a few fans voting lots of times for the hardcore ). What he didn't have was many fans in this forum.

The great lesson of this is that this forum does not reflect the public at large. Which is no bad thing as the public at large are renowned for having bloody awful taste.

BBG

...whereas we are cultured connoisseurs who just happen to like a bit of a ruck!

a casing point me thinks...

though having said that if you forgive people for not tapping past teh shallow front he masquerdaded himself with then you could be forgiven for liking him...

Anyone phoned 'Rentokil' ????

Or perhaps Rentafan?

Jonny's now on 96.6 TFM!!

Jonny's also on Radio City 96.7 too!

Thanks for the warning.
Have removed the batteries from my radio and lowered them down the well...

That's the referendum out the window then.

personally I believe that Jonnys messages of support were computer-generated, his nice fiance was a hired actress, and the 2nd place was financed by Jonnys parents to which they are in debt to BT by the sum of £4 million.

Its the only explanation????

OK maybe so, but I've tried to make the point before, people can vote for someone in BB for all sorts of extraneous reasons, without making them necessarily "fans" of the HM in question.

For example, on several BB3 boards last year there were numerous posts along the lines of "I'm voting for Jonny to win because he is a fireman", "Because the world needs more firemen not models" etc.
There's no doubt Jonny milked his fireman status for all it was worth. Their positive public image in turn gave Jonny a favourable public perception of his personality, as possessing the qualities we associate with firemen ie. decent, honest, selfless lifesavers -- despite the evidence indicating Jonny's personality was the very opposite of those; he was fake, cunning and selfish (many examples of those), and he put Kate's life in potentially fatal danger.
First impressions last, and Jonny's funny cheeky chappie performance in the first week, coupled with his fireman status, formed an indelibly (and falsely) favourable image which lasted to the end.

I agree though that this forum may not reflect the public at large, but then the majority of the public are not diehard BB fans or even avid viewers of it (which most of us here by definition are), but rather they are caught up in the media hype and blanket coverage from which it is hard to avoid, and watch it on a casual irregular basis. They're also more likely to only watch the C4 summaries, which means their perception of the various HMs are particularly vulnerable to the partisan editing of those.

That doesn't necessarily mean some of them won't vote anyway (esp for the final), for example out of a sense of occasion. It means though that their votes will be based on perceptions and opinions gained through an incomplete picture, subject to distortion. Jonny the fireman would be (or was) a particular beneficiary of such votes.

Which brings me to your final remark with which I agree. This forum may or may not be representative of the public, but since most of us are by definition BB enthusiasts who take a close interest in and watch it more fully than those not (ie the majority of the public), therefore the sway of opinion about the housemates reached in here are I daresay more valid and more likely to be 'the truth'.

I love that one. Melodramatic anyone?

Never mind pantomime, he should be up for attempted murder!

Sorry, pass me the etch-a-sketch ......*shake shake*

Not that melodramatic at all.....I'm quite serious. The risk is very real.

Vomiting while semi-conscious is indicative of a dangerous level of alcohol intoxication and requires urgent attention. There are many fatal cases of (alcohol or drug-related) vomit-induced asphyxiation every year. Many famous celebs choked to death on their vomit -- eg. Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin
And even if you don't die immediately from the airway blockage, there is also the danger of developing asphyxiation pneumonia (where even a little of the vomitus yuck enters the lungs thus causing a serious infection) - you can die from that too.

ps. Shouldn't that be sketch-a-retch.....

It wouldn't be attempted murder -- for that you have to demonstrate 'malice aforethought', which to be fair to Jonny was not the case.

Don't forget the belts, and oranges, too

The potential danger was real.

1/ Kate was in a terrible state,...but Jonny was intent on getting Kate into the swimming pool.
He was only stopped when BB had to step in to stop him.

2/ A few people saw the live feed, when while asleep, Kate was making all sorts of choking, wheezing noises as she lay on her back asleep.
It was reported that BB deemed the situation to be potentially serious and had a doctor on standby, ready to go into the house if Kate's condition deteriorated.

Luckily Kate eventual turned on to her side, and her breathing started to normalize.

Remember that mystic_nutmeg said that Kate's life was put in potentially. fatal danger

mystic_nutmeg

Agree with your points about popularity, above.

I also mentioned the topic before, a couple of times.

Jonny was only popular with the people who voted,.......and that's it.
But then again,..Jade was popular,..as was Kate,...as was Alex. It's neither here nor there.

It would be the same if Alex had got more votes than Jonny...It simply means he's more popular with the people who voted. The significance of Alex being popular, would be no more significant than Jonny being popular.

For all we know, if Alex had won, it just might simply mean that there's a lot of 14 year old girls with more money than common sense, with too much free time on their hands.

It doesn't reflect the population,...just a tiny microcosm of it.

Being popular doesn't make something good, or better.

Mr. Blobby was popular.
Westlife is popular.
Sunny D is popular.
Pokemon was popular.
Smoking is popular (gotta quit).

In my experience, most of what I come across as being popular.........is completely shit.

A lot of what I see as being not so popular, is often very good indeed.

Actually winning the popularity contest of BB, is actually irrelevant in reality...It just means you get the chance to present on TV.

Take this as an example,.. Kate won BB3, so was popular with the people who voted in the BB3 final,.but.....................if the public was given a list of television presenters, and Kate was in the list,..........how popular do you genuinely believe she would be in that poll?

Popularity means absolutely nothing...It's like a single that get's to the top of the music charts,..and how many of them have been complete crap.

Take this as an example ......a couple of valium.

Huh??

How laid back do you want me to be.........in a coma or something??

I thought Jade stopped him. I distinctly remember her telling Jonny that Kate had had enough and to stop giving her drink. and then Jade spent the night making sure Kate was ok.
or was that another occasion?.

The potentially fatal danger Jonny is 'supposed' to have put Kate into. Was he 'Sober, or P*ss*d drunk at the time????

Yes Jade woke up and was concerned seeing how bad Kate was and told her to go to bed and tried to stop the drinking unsucessfully ... later in the night Jonny was still pushing more drink down Kate and trying to get her in the pool naked as she was passing out. BB called Jade into the diary room and gave her instructions to assist kate.

Does it matter? If he was drunk he was drunk. Should she have got into the swimming pool, should something tragic have happened would Jonny have been forgiven because he was under the influence of alcohol? Where do your morals lie Avalon?