I think you miss my point entirely. I do think Sophie is a strange mix. She's got such a lot going for her and yet time and again she displayed characteristics which are possibly indicative of someone who has suffered some kind of early trauma which clouded their development.

I've known one or two people who have been abused. Some of them DO emerge as very strong - sometimes too strong. But others are frightened and damaged and never achieve their potential.

BTW I take exception to your use of the word ''whim' as if I use the example lightly, sterotypically or ignorantly. I assure you I don't.


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That sounds just right......well, maybe less of the bitching, and more of the flirting and 'shagging' (even in a metaphorical sense)..... oh sorry, she was talking about Jade?

sophie stated herself ........she doesnt like to argue

trauma might be totally way off ....she may have had a very happy childhood also and hasnt grown up in that environment .....this could also be the reason .....not anything sinister as you think

some of the housemates no doubt read this place how would you feel if this was being said about you abuse is a strong word to banter around about someone

i dont miss your point at all .....your point being you think maybe sophie has low self eestem ....thats ok .....its the presumptions you use for why you think shes LSE

just cos you know a couple of people who've had an abused background .....doesnt make you an expert

Hey put the claws in!!! I never claimed to be an expert. I never accused Sophie of anything, or experiencing anything. I DO think SOMETHING makes her fear confrontation and I DO think that this is often, but not always, the cause of low self-esteem.

It was a debating point only, Why are you so over the top about this?

debate it then ......dont accuse me off going over the top and having my claws out for you

i could be sophie

typical man

If you're Sophie give me your phone number Ha ha

Seriously there was no intention to offend you or anyone else and I do actually take your points. Maybe it wasn't the best example to use

I'm nice really

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at last zoom .....took a bit but we got there ....well done and thank you lol

you didnt offend me but could of sophie

Yep you're right. DAMMIT your right!!!!

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but women always are ......havent you men learnt that rule yet

hmmmmm depends............

Well and telling Adele and Tim they are ***** as well, (were also slagging her off behind her back. )

Yes..she should have told all three of them to their faces. agreed.