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swingaleg
06-07-2003
Makes a nice change for me to be too slow for once, RG !!


RG
06-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by swingaleg
Thanks for that, RG

Haven't got anything to add on Jonny as I've no intention of ever listening to the show

But backtracking a little bit I watched that Pop Years 1986 on Sky last week, but never saw Our Katie

We Wuz Robbed !!!

Narinder was on though
”

My posting timing always has been lousy.
It occurred to me that Narinder and Kate had ben mixed up, but then I asked - Is this humanly possible?
Kate may well be better able to comment on the 90s in the next programme.
EddyBee
06-07-2003
RG - Thanks for the Jonny update. That incident was nasty !
lulu g
06-07-2003
Nice to see Jonny has lost none of his charm.
darling
06-07-2003
Nor Alison come to that! The cow.
lulu g
06-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by darling
Nor Alison come to that! The cow. ”

Surely some mistake, darling? Isn't Alison that big, jolly, good-natured lass?
Last edited by lulu g : 06-07-2003 at 13:06
darling
06-07-2003
And she might still have been able to get away with the pretence lulu if her good friend Jonny hadn't been kind enough to provide us with details of her off stage persona...
Emzi
10-07-2003
Bit of Jade news - she's been picked to front a health campaign run by Marie Curie Cancer Care charity (the campaign is sponsored by Quorn) to motivate people to live a healthier, fitter life now to avoid illness in later life.

The national campaign is called Commit To Get Fit. No other details at the mo.

emzi
RG
20-07-2003
Less than 3 hours after BB4 finishes, E4 are repeating What Jade Did Next.

Their scheduling is BB4 up to 11.05 pm, then Friends, Shock Video, V Graham Norton and (more) Shock Video as the entree for WJDN at 1.40am early Saturday morning.
malcom
20-07-2003
BB2 fans don't forget to catch Helen Adams on loose women next week and the following week I believe.........Federico also makes an appearance Tue or Fri I think.....
RG
06-08-2003
On her Capital show on Sunday, Kate said that they were really pleased because the programme had got its best ever listening figures. I imagine contracts will be up for renewal in October, so this looks like good news.
I've spent a bit of time looking for any supporting information. I haven't found any specifically about their programme, but the recently released Rajar figures are mentioned in a Media Guardian article which discusses Capital but concentrates on breakfast.
Earlier articles giving poorer figures were posted with alacrity, but not this one. Hmmmmm. Anyway, the link is http://media.guardian.co.uk/radio/st...009641,00.html

She also mentioned that she had received an e-mail asking about her and Ray. She said very clearly that the newspaper report was untrue. Ray also said on BB Diaries that it was a load of bleep, they hadn't slept together but they had kissed. He actually sounded sincere to me.
There is no doubt that denial is the second phase of a publicity process, but it is also the valid reaction to an untruth.

A thread on this subject was closed following heavy argument. I avoided posting in the 'full heat' and I'm only raising it now because she did. I hope we can avoid repeating the bile and the course of the original thread.
I agree with this post http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/...80#post1162080 from that thread with the following additions. A high proportion of this type of tabloid story are ridiculous, the Tania chocolate story probably leads the field, but it does conflict.

Kate has said in the past that the 3am girls were her least favourite of the tabloid press, based on previous experience. Anything they say about their targets I take with an extra pinch of salt.
With her present success, I doubt that she wants or needs this sort of publicity. Six or nine months ago it may have been different. On the other hand, It's possible that Ray's agents could feel he does already need it to maintain his perceived Beatlemania level of adulation, but my favourite is the ongoing 3am issue..

It may have been her idea, but I suspect the party was inspired by the docu-makers. I also suspect that her mentioning it in advance was an attempt to avoid this type of article by being open about it. If so, it didn't work, but that does not mean it wasn't the intention.
The article doesn't mention the time the party finished, and the convincing sources are (from memory) a spy and an insider. Kate and Ray were on RI:SE the next morning (Thursday) along with Jon (and Fed?). I know there's makeup, but none of them looked the worse for wear to me.

Indeed, having declined to do his allotted piece on tv once earlier in the week due to tiredness/fragility, he did do it with the mediocrity consistent with his first attempt.
Thursday was also the morning where Kate managed to come out with Anna Korkinova in the first news piece. The way she dealt with that and even turned it into something funny/positive was not the product of someone with severe sleep deprivation.

None of this proves anything, but I think it's clear where I stand. It's time to post some good news to balance the account, so I say well done on the Capital listening figures.
EddyBee
06-08-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by RG
On her Capital show on Sunday, Kate said that they were really pleased because the programme had got its best ever listening figures. I imagine contracts will be up for renewal in October, so this looks like good news.
I've spent a bit of time looking for any supporting information. I haven't found any specifically about their programme, but the recently released Rajar figures are mentioned in a Media Guardian article which discusses Capital but concentrates on breakfast.
Earlier articles giving poorer figures were posted with alacrity, but not this one. Hmmmmm. Anyway, the link is http://media.guardian.co.uk/radio/st...009641,00.html
”

If Kate's & Andi's radio show was really doing well, then Capital radio would be singing its praises just as it is doing with the slight improvement witnessed for its morning efforts.

The fact that Kate's weekly effort gets no mention whatsoever (anywhere) indicates that it is still a dead duck.
RG
09-08-2003
For those not of a nervous disposition, Jonny is on your telly today.

He is 'hosting' Rescue Day on Reality TV (Ch241).

In this context hosting would appear to mean pre-recorded links as he's currently live on radio.

I'm going to need to lie down now, because I've just seen a 10 second link.
Maxiii
09-08-2003
Ray can say what he likes , Kate never kissed no Ray.
She said on Capital last week "Nothing happened between Ray and me"
In fact it was a serious statement and broadcasted as such, they then cut to adverts.

That kind of press Kate was responding to would not be liked by Capitalfm, the content was very very offensive, enough to cause concern for the profile of the station and Kate - there will be talks behind the scenes Im sure with the type of content some of the papers are inventing and by whom it has been proposed/backhanded from and to.

Endemol or more likely Ch4 are sailing very close to the wind
now.
In fact I am beginning to hate the mention of CH4 and Endemol.
I too think that the party was a suggestion from the BB programme maker/ broadcaster and Kate has been naive and or obliged.
RG
09-08-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Maxiii
Ray can say what he likes , Kate never kissed no Ray.
She said on Capital last week "Nothing happened between Ray and me"
In fact it was a serious statement and broadcasted as such, they then cut to adverts.

That kind of press Kate was responding to would not be liked by Capitalfm, the content was very very offensive, enough to cause concern for the profile of the station and Kate - there will be talks behind the scenes Im sure with the type of content some of the papers are inventing and by whom it has been proposed/backhanded from and to.

Endemol or more likely Ch4 are sailing very close to the wind
now.
In fact I am beginning to hate the mention of CH4 and Endemol.
I too think that the party was a suggestion from the BB programme maker/ broadcaster and Kate has been naive and or obliged.
”

Maxiii, I largely agree. My only doubt is that there was a game of Spin the Bottle. A kiss, if there was one, would probably have been part of that, and therefore unimportant imo, or even 'nothing'.
Candice
09-08-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Maxiii
Ray can say what he likes , Kate never kissed no Ray.
She said on Capital last week "Nothing happened between Ray and me"
In fact it was a serious statement and broadcasted as such, they then cut to adverts.

”

Oh Maxii the same Kate who denied playing FTV?

Nice to 'see' you btw
Maxiii
09-08-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Candice
Oh Maxii the same Kate who denied playing FTV?

Nice to 'see' you btw
”

Hi...!

Do you mean the first bits of the Davina/Kate interview inside the house?
The bit where Kate denied getting off with Adele under the covers?
If so then fair cop but she was hardly likely to say 'yes I did get off with Adele - next question please'
She would likely deny it because she did not get off with Adele as such.

On the DVD if you use headphones, it can be presumed towards the end of the scene (with the three of them under the covers) yes that Adele and Kate kissed, but it can also be heard that Alex spoke with quite a dis-respectfull tone to Adele when he was rushing to smother Kate's mouth with his.
Both Kate and Alex were momentarily dismissive with Adele, verbally treating her like a past convenience for a few long moments whilst they kissed at length.

Or was that not it?
Candice
09-08-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Maxiii
Hi...!

Do you mean the first bits of the Davina/Kate interview inside the house?
The bit where Kate denied getting off with Adele under the covers?
If so then fair cop but she was hardly likely to say 'yes I did get off with Adele - next question please'
She would likely deny it because she did not get off with Adele as such.

On the DVD if you use headphones, it can be presumed towards the end of the scene (with the three of them under the covers) yes that Adele and Kate kissed, but it can also be heard that Alex spoke with quite a dis-respectfull tone to Adele when he was rushing to smother Kate's mouth with his.
Both Kate and Alex were momentarily dismissive with Adele, verbally treating her like a past convenience for a few long moments whilst they kissed at length.

Or was that not it?
”

I think you've covered most of it

What I was thinking of was when Jonny (who was seething with jealousy) questioned Kate about playing FTV. She blatantly lied, just as she lied about fancying Alex.
EddyBee
09-08-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Candice
Oh Maxii the same Kate who denied playing FTV?

Nice to 'see' you btw
”

Hi Candice. Yes that's right, the same Kate that we all saw salivating all over our TV screens several times these last 2 weeks at the prospect of meeting 'fit' Ray !!!

Trust me, she's been there despite what our good pals Maxiii & RG might believe. Kate has never fooled me !
darling
09-08-2003
Its fair enough, in my opinion, for her to deny it if she sha***d him. Its nobodies business but theirs.

And at least he's an improvement on the ghastly Duncan James.
Maxiii
09-08-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Candice
I think you've covered most of it

What I was thinking of was when Jonny (who was seething with jealousy) questioned Kate about playing FTV. She blatantly lied, just as she lied about fancying Alex.
”

Why should Kate answer Jonny on things that were none of his business?
She was'nt lying to us the viewers, she knew we could see what was going on.
She probably felt an intrusion of whatever privacy she could afford for herself and the bloke she really fancied - Alex.
Then she could also have felt she wanted to keep Jonny and his interference out of her private games with Alex.

If Jonny could get her to talk about the van then he would be able to talk at Alex about it, and Kate would instinctively 'know' that without even having to think about it. The protective instinct
Maxiii
09-08-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Eejay
Hi Candice. Yes that's right, the same Kate that we all saw salivating all over our TV screens several times these last 2 weeks at the prospect of meeting 'fit' Ray !!!

Trust me, she's been there despite what our good pals Maxiii & RG might believe. Kate has never fooled me !
”

'Been there'? She is extremely unlikely to have Eejay and well you know it!
Kate was never trying to fool anyone, she was merely expressing views in exactly the way teenagers do so she could be identified with by those very teenagers - she has an audience to keep identifying with and a radio show to keep up.
Adults are not supposed to be fooled by her remarks.
Candice
09-08-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by darling
Its fair enough, in my opinion, for her to deny it if she sha***d him. Its nobodies business but theirs.

And at least he's an improvement on the ghastly Duncan James.
”

I'm not talking about her shagging him. I believe what both she and Ray said. I was talking about her kissing him and no, it's not my or anyone's business but then neither is 99% of the topics post bb on here.
Candice
09-08-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Maxiii
Why should Kate answer Jonny on things that were none of his business?
She was'nt lying to us the viewers, she knew we could see what was going on.
She probably felt an intrusion of whatever privacy she could afford for herself and the bloke she really fancied - Alex.
Then she could also have felt she wanted to keep Jonny and his interference out of her private games with Alex.

If Jonny could get her to talk about the van then he would be able to talk at Alex about it, and Kate would instinctively 'know' that without even having to think about it. The protective instinct
”

Actually, as much as I don't like Kate I agree with your reasoning as to why she wouldn't. I'm just basically saying that Kate covers up things - I think she's a fronter, but then Maxii you're well familiar with my feelings on Kate, Jonny et al
darling
09-08-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Candice
I'm not talking about her shagging him. I believe what both she and Ray said. I was talking about her kissing him and no, it's not my or anyone's business but then neither is 99% of the topics post bb on here. ”

I was talking to Eejay.
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