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Talizman
28-07-2007
Originally Posted by jammers:
“So your Nokia has a super, never lose charge battery?”

No, I've clearly never said that. When my N95 battery dies, I won't be conned by Nokia in to buying another.

Originally Posted by jammers:
“Your Nokia will have to have a new battery at some point as will any other device that uses batteries. I already said it is a pain to have to send it back to Apple. However you will have to buy a new battery for your Nokia at some point. But I bet that you, like 90% of all other mobile users, will replace their handset long before the battery dies.”

Probably. Whilst of you course you and other iphone users will be happy to be anally violated by Apple every few hundred charges.
jammers
29-07-2007
So you won't buy another battery or you will buy a third party one that are never as good. Either way, you WILL have to buy another battery from somewhere.

I have never had the misfortune to own a Nokia but I do know SE phones recognise third party batteries and charge them at a super slow rate.

The iPhone battery won't run down any quicker than a Nokia or Motorola battery. You have no argument.
Mark in Essex
29-07-2007
Originally Posted by Sananda Maitreya:
“from the posted pics on macrumors.com the camera produces some pretty good results (quality isn't all about the amount of pixels on the sensor). shame about no gps. there's rubbish 3g coverage in america so it seems a better move to have edge in the american iphone. i hope the version sold in england with have 3g.”

Yes the mega pixels are not everything to do with the picure quality (I've always felt that my pictures on my old Canon 3.2mp camera are better than some of my friends Sony 6/7mp small cameras due to better optics/CCD's etc....), but I just looked at WWW.MACRUMORS.COM and the pictures look crappy (like my E65's 2mp pictures) in full screen (you need 3mp and over for anything A5 print size and over ect.....).
Talizman
29-07-2007
Originally Posted by jammers:
“So you won't buy another battery or you will buy a third party one that are never as good. Either way, you WILL have to buy another battery from somewhere.”

Please please please take the time to actually read my posts. I've never said I won't ever need to replace my battery.

Originally Posted by jammers:
“I have never had the misfortune to own a Nokia but I do know SE phones recognise third party batteries and charge them at a super slow rate.”

So how about you stop commenting on (and embarrassing yourself over) something you have no experience of.

Originally Posted by jammers:
“The iPhone battery won't run down any quicker than a Nokia or Motorola battery. You have no argument.”

Or maybe you're only reading what you want to read? Should I need to replace my Nokia battery, I can get unbranded ones from plenty of places. You on the other hand will get shafted from Apple every few hundred charges.

So I submit, it is YOU who has no argument.
davisa
29-07-2007
I doubt I'll ever buy a new battery for my iPhone, my 2G iPod battery is still going strong, and when it dies I will finally upgrade. Same with iPhone. Use for 3 years - upgrade to iPhone 2.

Thinking about it, I have NEVER bought a new battery for any phone I've ever had. When the battery goes it is more cost effective to upgrade the phone.
davisa
29-07-2007
Originally Posted by Talizman:
“You on the other hand will get shafted from Apple every few hundred charges.”

Replacement service from Apple seems very reasonable. Battery life expectancy seems very reasonable indeed - 80% charge (6.5 hrs) left after 400 full charges. More from top-ups.

There are many issues with the iPhone, but battery life isn't one of them!
jammers
29-07-2007
Originally Posted by Talizman:
“Please please please take the time to actually read my posts. I've never said I won't ever need to replace my battery.



So how about you stop commenting on (and embarrassing yourself over) something you have no experience of.



Or maybe you're only reading what you want to read? Should I need to replace my Nokia battery, I can get unbranded ones from plenty of places. You on the other hand will get shafted from Apple every few hundred charges.

So I submit, it is YOU who has no argument.”

Argh! I pay Apple for a new battery. You pay Nokia or someone else for a new battery. There is no difference! Your unbranded one may be cheaper but you usually get what you pay for. And if Nokia phones are anything like Sony Ericsson ones your N95 will recognise it as non official and charge it at a snails pace anyway.
jammers
29-07-2007
An iPhone review from the Apple hating Register

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/29/iphone_v_q/

Quote:
Due to poor cellular coverage, both devices were in and out of service throughout the drive. The Q, however, exhausted its battery after about an hour of continuous use in marginal radio coverage. The iPhone was barely 20 per cent down. Both were fully charged overnight and had near equal time using voice and data. You can score a major plus for the iPhone battery life; it pretty much eliminates the need for a swappable battery.
Talizman
29-07-2007
Originally Posted by jammers:
“Argh! I pay Apple for a new battery. You pay Nokia or someone else for a new battery. There is no difference! Your unbranded one may be cheaper but you usually get what you pay for. And if Nokia phones are anything like Sony Ericsson ones your N95 will recognise it as non official and charge it at a snails pace anyway.”

Twice I've bought replacement batteries for Nokias and both performed fine, no slow charging at all.

Nokia 2, iPhone nil
jammers
29-07-2007
Originally Posted by Talizman:
“Twice I've bought replacement batteries for Nokias and both performed fine, no slow charging at all.

Nokia 2, iPhone nil ”

If only your brick was easy to use....
Sananda Maitreya
30-07-2007
Originally Posted by jammers:
“If only your brick was easy to use....”

i went to have a look at the n95. thought it might be a good phone for me. i asked the shop assistant to show me the internet browsing. god, it was awful.
Talizman
30-07-2007
Originally Posted by jammers:
“If only your brick was easy to use....”

Just because the easy-to-use N95 is a little difficult for you (even though you've got no experience of it) doesn't mean it's difficult for the rest of the populous.
jammers
30-07-2007
Originally Posted by Talizman:
“Just because the easy-to-use N95 is a little difficult for you (even though you've got no experience of it) doesn't mean it's difficult for the rest of the populous.”

lol, generally all of the smart phones by any manufacturer have so many features crammed into them they are not always easy to use due to the limited design - a fixed keyboard and so. But each to their own I suppose.
Sananda Maitreya
30-07-2007
Originally Posted by Talizman:
“Just because the easy-to-use N95 is a little difficult for you (even though you've got no experience of it) doesn't mean it's difficult for the rest of the populous.”


looked difficult to me when the salesman was demonstrating it to me.
neo6776
30-07-2007
Originally Posted by jammers:
“lol, generally all of the smart phones by any manufacturer have so many features crammed into them they are not always easy to use due to the limited design - a fixed keyboard and so. But each to their own I suppose.”

pmsl until now every phone had a fixed kb and no one complained lol

The n95 uses the same symbian series and the N73 which i had and its exceedingly simple to use, very configurable as well.

Also why does having an on screen keyboard suddenly make the phone easier to use?
neo6776
30-07-2007
Originally Posted by Sananda Maitreya:
“looked difficult to me when the salesman was demonstrating it to me.”

How can it be difficult lmao

Click the button to open the browser. not hard is it?

Then click more, then type in the address? just exactly how hard is that?

Don't like the default browser, get opera for it.

Think your making this up as you go along aren't you
jammers
30-07-2007
Originally Posted by neo6776:
“pmsl until now every phone had a fixed kb and no one complained lol

The n95 uses the same symbian series and the N73 which i had and its exceedingly simple to use, very configurable as well.

Also why does having an on screen keyboard suddenly make the phone easier to use?”

What makes the iPhone revolutionary is the fact that it is all touch screen. Everything can be customised to how the apps needs thus far out performing anything with fixed buttons that cannot be changed.
Sananda Maitreya
31-07-2007
Originally Posted by neo6776:
“How can it be difficult lmao

Click the button to open the browser. not hard is it?

Then click more, then type in the address? just exactly how hard is that?

Don't like the default browser, get opera for it.

Think your making this up as you go along aren't you ”

well i asked the salesman to show me. he only seemed to come up with some vodaphone live thing (whatever that is). he seemed to be pressing a lot of buttons and very little was coming up on the screen. what did come up in no way resembled what i would call a browser. it was nothing like the browser on a computer.
Talizman
31-07-2007
Originally Posted by jammers:
“What makes the iPhone revolutionary is the fact that it is all touch screen. Everything can be customised to how the apps needs thus far out performing anything with fixed buttons that cannot be changed.”

A bit like my Vario 2 then.

Originally Posted by Sananda Maitreya:
“well i asked the salesman to show me. he only seemed to come up with some vodaphone live thing (whatever that is). he seemed to be pressing a lot of buttons and very little was coming up on the screen. what did come up in no way resembled what i would call a browser. it was nothing like the browser on a computer.”

That would be more to do with what Vodafone put on it, not Nokia.
jammers
31-07-2007
Originally Posted by Talizman:
“A bit like my Vario 2 then.



That would be more to do with what Vodafone put on it, not Nokia.”

Vario 2 lol - come on, a hunk of junk.
hobbes79
31-07-2007
Originally Posted by jammers:
“An iPhone review from the Apple hating Register

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/29/iphone_v_q/

Quote:
Due to poor cellular coverage, both devices were in and out of service throughout the drive. The Q, however, exhausted its battery after about an hour of continuous use in marginal radio coverage. The iPhone was barely 20 per cent down. Both were fully charged overnight and had near equal time using voice and data. You can score a major plus for the iPhone battery life; it pretty much eliminates the need for a swappable battery.”

A bizarre comparison. The iPhone runs on a GSM network while the Q was running on a CDMA network. To compare battery life of two products, they should at least be on the same network and in the same location, so if the transmitter and/or receiver has to work hard, they should be working equally hard.

This comparison of battery life here is apples and oranges.
Sananda Maitreya
31-07-2007
Originally Posted by Talizman:
“A bit like my Vario 2 then.



That would be more to do with what Vodafone put on it, not Nokia.”

where can i get a good demo that shows the nokia's attributes best?
_jbaw_
02-08-2007
ive never had to get a new inbuilt battery for anypiece of technology i own. I have a nano, but i barely touch it, i just used my w800 instead as it was far more convienient. Ive never needed one for a phone, and now ive got a Z8 with some luverly bluetooth headphones and support for 32GB memory sticks (when they get released) so cant see myself using anything else for a good while.

the only thing ive ever witness needing a new battery is an ipod, which i think is pretty inexcusable, considering the amount of appliances out there which run on the same principal without breaking after a year.

i just got a new digital camera which actually runs on 4AA's which im pretty much over the moon about. It means that there is never any risk of the battery dieing after a day of use cos if it does, can just pop some more in.
Dan Sette
02-08-2007
Originally Posted by Talizman:
“A bit like my Vario 2 then.”

Interesting. Symbian software on Nokia.

I had the original Symbian Nokia 7650 to get onto the internet. Didn't work and after much correspondence with the Carphone Warehouse and .... get this... the MD of Nokia, they paid me to have the phone back so they could work the bugs out of the software AND gave me Communicator for my trouble.

Wouldn't touch anything with Symbian again and have always gone with Windows Mobile products.

This on the basis of at least Windows talking to Windows has some chance of working.

I too have the the Vario 2. It seems OK, surfs the net (although the screen alignment slips everytime it goes into standyby).

Then I discovered a Mac about six weeks ago. All I can say, after years of Windoze 98 and 10p its a revelation.

It actually works. It actually does what I want it to, when I want it. Simply, quickly, elegantly and in half the time with half the hassle. Never going back to a PC again.

If Apple's phone works half as well, especially when syncing up. Bring it on. (and I get an iPod thrown in with it, marvelous)

Of course, it could be a bag of rubbish. But if my Mac experience is anything to go by, I doubt it.

D
Talizman
05-08-2007
Originally Posted by jammers:
“Vario 2 lol - come on, a hunk of junk.”

Another phone you're commenting on without having ever used?

Originally Posted by Dan Sette:
“I
It actually works. It actually does what I want it to, when I want it. Simply, quickly, elegantly and in half the time with half the hassle. Never going back to a PC again.”

Heh heh, Maddox has got something to say about the Apple users' "It simply works" line here. (warning: link contains offensive language)

Just found this online review of the iPhone:

Quote:
“There is no extra battery and you cannot replace it ($80US & a send to Apple) You cannot transfer contacts from your old phone even if you have a SIM chip. Took us several hours to copy by hand all contact data. MP3 ringtones are out. Bluetooth is useless for both picture sending and stereo headphones. No GPS. No MicroSD card = no external memory. No video capability on the camera. Cannot transfer music/video outside of synch with iTunes = without license you may have to recollect your music .99/song at a time. No service in Japan. Service provider (ATT) offers no handset insurance for this expensive smartphone. You drop it, you buy another! It is very pretty however.”


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