[sc0ttish]

Hi Everyone,

Can home today and a letter was waiting for me, caught doing 66 mph in a 50 mph.

I was waiting for it cause i saw the van sitting there and just knew i had been caught.

Anyway does anyone know if this is just a matter of 3 points and £60 fine or is it of to court.

Its in Scotland by the way....in case that makes a difference

Thanks

[ForestChav]

Will just be the normal fixed penalty plus points, I would imagine.

[maxsi]

I think its your choice, £60 + 3 points or go to court and appeal but then the fine can be £1000

try here
http://www.centralscotland.police.uk...g.php#speeding

[sc0ttish]

I thought it would just be the 3 points, going to accept it if it is.

Pissed of with myself more that anything, just got rid of the last 3 points last month......rage

[waamo]

You need to check out this place

http://forums.pepipoo.com/

The usual advice for Scotland is to fill the NIP out but do not sign it.

[mattwoodfield]

STOP speeding then, and you wont keep getting point!

[snuggle bubble]

Originally Posted by mattwoodfield

STOP speeding then, and you wont keep getting point!

Easier said than done

Originally Posted by sc0ttish

Hi Everyone,

Can home today and a letter was waiting for me, caught doing 66 mph in a 50 mph.

I was waiting for it cause i saw the van sitting there and just knew i had been caught.

Anyway does anyone know if this is just a matter of 3 points and £60 fine or is it of to court.

Its in Scotland by the way....in case that makes a difference

Thanks

Ask to see the video evidence and if you cannot see who is driving the car, contest it.


I did and the ticket was revoked.

[leighanne]

Originally Posted by snuggle bubble

Easier said than done

Is your speedomiter (sp?) broken?

[snuggle bubble]

Originally Posted by leighanne

Is your speedomiter (sp?) broken?

No

Just put your foot down and go for it

[MrsOggy]

Originally Posted by snuggle bubble

No

Just put your foot down and go for it

Won't be saying that if you knock someone down will you

[bradleyspencer1]

66mph in a 50mph zone!

You b*****d!! Thats worse that murder! Well in North Wales Police it is anyway.

[Beachball]

Last time I was caught was a few years ago and that was at 67mph in a 50mph limit. I'm in England and I just got 3 points and a £60 fine.

[snuggle bubble]

Originally Posted by MrsOggy

Won't be saying that if you knock someone down will you

sorry mrs o

meant on motorways

[MrsOggy]

Originally Posted by snuggle bubble

sorry mrs o

meant on motorways

Sorry for missunderstanding you post but it didnt say motorway anywhere in it

[eluf38]

Originally Posted by bradleyspencer1

66mph in a 50mph zone!

You b*****d!! Thats worse that murder! Well in North Wales Police it is anyway.

The flashing warning signs, neon yellow zone signs really enhance the beauty of our countryside don't they?

BTW, they've passed a new law saying speed cameras can go whereever they want now - the police don't have to prove that there's an accident 'blackspot' before sending the arrive alive vans or putting up a speed camera. And Richard Brunstrom is recorded as saying "We can send cameras to whereever we want. And I intend to."
And the new cameras are digital, so it will be very difficult to contest them. (If I knew I'd been speeding, I wouldn't contest anyway. Accept the slap on the wrist)

I agree - speeding is much worse than theft, burgalry or assault to North Wales Police.

I had my CD player stolen out of my car and they were so uninterested it was unbelieveable. They spent more time doing a 'client satisfaction survey' over the phone than they did dealing with my case (took them a week to send the forensics out!). Unfortunatly, 'very pissed off indeed' wasn't a valid option on the survey!

[Injured]

What about 60mph in a 40 zone? (Although was a manned camera on a road near a dual carriageway...tis a fair cop.)

Does it matter that I have a clean license? Will I just get 3 points and the fine?

Sorry to hijack the OP thread!

[claire2003]

When I got done for speeding, 33 in a 30 zone!
I was given a choice of £60 fine and 3 points or go on a course run by the police to teach people how to drive carefully, and not have points on my licence.
Not every police force runs that course though.

[Sigurd]

Originally Posted by claire2003

When I got done for speeding, 33 in a 30 zone...

That sounds odd. I thought that legally you were allowed to be 10% over the limit to allow for speedometer error?

According to the law you are permitted a 10% error over-limit (i.e. up to 33mph in a 30MPH area) to account for inaccuracies in your car's speedometer and to a lesser extent the wear of your tires.

This 10% margin for error was enshrined in legislation yonks ago at a time when car speedometers were generally far less accurate than they are today. However no government would now dare to update this today for fear of the backlash this would cause. Hence you should be able to get away with at least 75 MPH on motorways (according to your speedometer) without fear of being done for speeding.

http://lists.becta.org.uk/pipermail/...er/046075.html

Has anyone else heard of someone being fined for doing 33mph in a 30mph zone?

[Freddy_Lives]

Originally Posted by Injured

What about 60mph in a 40 zone? (Although was a manned camera on a road near a dual carriageway...tis a fair cop.)

Does it matter that I have a clean license? Will I just get 3 points and the fine?

Sorry to hijack the OP thread!

Although I can't be sure, there's a cut off somewhere and if you're so far over the limit it's more than 3pts.

[Injured]

Originally Posted by Freddy_Lives

Although I can't be sure, there's a cut off somewhere and if you're so far over the limit it's more than 3pts.

From what I've seen from the local resources, it seems that 66mph is the limit before I'd have to go to court. So, I could may have to go on a Speed Awareness Course.

As long as I don't have to go to Court, I'll happily take any punishment!

[eluf38]

Originally Posted by Sigurd

That sounds odd. I thought that legally you were allowed to be 10% over the limit to allow for speedometer error?


http://lists.becta.org.uk/pipermail/...er/046075.html

Has anyone else heard of someone being fined for doing 33mph in a 30mph zone?

I got done for doing 34 mph, and I had a friend who got done for doing 31!!!

I went on a speeding course, and I was told that the cut-off point was 35mph, meaning that anybody who did over that couldn't go on the course but were forced to accept the points. It depends on which area you live in I suppose.

[Sigurd]

Originally Posted by eluf38

I got done for doing 34 mph, and I had a friend who got done for doing 31!!!

Well, I'm still surprised.

ACPO Guidelines on speeding, and the UK law regarding prosecution.

Vehicle construction and use regulations require a vehicle speedometer accuracy to be in the range of -0->+10%. The implications are that it must never under-read - for obvious reasons - but may over-read. As the cost of manufacturing a speedometer with -0% error would be very costly they all over-read by a few percent without exception. Even if speed is measured correctly the display may not be accurate, so a speedometer error is allowed. Because of this, the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) have an official formula for calculating a speeding offence. It allows a leeway of 10% plus 2mph. In reality, most speed traps are triggered at higher speeds than this because if they were set bang-on those guidelines, the sheer amount of paperwork generated would overrun the police speeding departments.

http://www.speed-trap.co.uk/Accused_...ge/The_Law.htm

According to that, you'd have to do 35mph before it would be regarded as an offence.

Or again here:

I received a fixed penalty notice and I was only going 32mph in a 30mph zone.

It would be extremely unusual for any driver to be fined or prosecuted for travelling at 32mph in a 30mph limit. The police do not operate at levels often described as “zero tolerance”. The guideline issued by the Association of Chief Police Officers is not to prosecute motorists unless they are recorded as going at 10% plus 2mph over the posted speed limit. In the case of a 30mph limit that would be 35mph. This is to safeguard against any discrepancies there might be between speedometers and police equipment. Should you believe your penalty to be unsafe in any way you could seek recourse to the courts.

http://www.speedcheck.co.uk/FAQs02.htm

[the chimp]

There is no legal allowance 30 mph is a maximum anything over that is an offence, the guide for allowances is purely voluntary.

[Finglonga]

As above, they are only guidelines and its up to the individual Officer whether he enforces it. Thats when being pleasant when stopped can help rather than giving them attitude.