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Old 25-05-2003, 12:20
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England's fantastic performance at the Eurovision Song Contest last night got me thinking .

How much of the fantastic music we hear on our radios and that we possess in our CD collections is English? Justin Timberlake, Kylie? Nope. Girls Aloud. Discuss.
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Old 25-05-2003, 12:34
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Hamish

Your title says British music but then you go onto to ask about English music? So what's it to be?
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Old 25-05-2003, 12:40
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Both I suppose.The title refers to British music, and the Eurovision song was English. I mean British music as a whole in comparison to music from other countries.
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Old 25-05-2003, 12:51
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Originally posted by Hamish Buchanan
Both I suppose.The title refers to British music, and the Eurovision song was English. I mean British music as a whole in comparison to music from other countries.
No - the Eurovision Song Contest entry represented the UK - not just England.

Michael Nyman who did the music for the film The Piano is one of my favourite English composers.
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Old 25-05-2003, 13:06
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I know. I was referring to England's Eurovision entry.
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Old 25-05-2003, 15:30
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Originally posted by Hamish Buchanan
I know. I was referring to England's Eurovision entry.
England didnt have a seperate entry from the rest of the UK tho
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Old 25-05-2003, 17:24
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GG is right, whether the writer and performers are English, Scottish, Irish or Welsh, this is a UK entry, not English.

The reason we put forward songs like this is because the public believe these 'Euro-pop' songs will win Eurovision. Our song wouldn't stand a chance of getting anywhere in the charts if if wasn't for its involvement in Eurovision. We need to get away from public voting for our songs, and leave the selection of our songs to a commitee of people like, maybe Oasis, Gareth Gates and David Bowie. I only list those people as examples so don't have a go at me for who I list, but my point it that it should be people we know who are involved in our music industry
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Old 25-05-2003, 17:52
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the fact that eurovision is generally accepted as a joke contest (outwith the smaller nations to whom the contest is genuinely a big deal) stops established acts from performing in it.
the acts themselves are generally aimed at non-commercial audiences too, otherwise the genres would be far more varied than what actually get shown (rap's the biggest seller right now in the world, but from the few acts i painfully sat through last night it wasn't shown, nor was rock, punk etc).

what i did see was simply because it was going to take some time for a cab to arrive
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Old 26-05-2003, 23:04
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Originally posted by freneticvirus
the fact that eurovision is generally accepted as a joke contest (outwith the smaller nations to whom the contest is genuinely a big deal) stops established acts from performing in it.
the acts themselves are generally aimed at non-commercial audiences too, otherwise the genres would be far more varied than what actually get shown (rap's the biggest seller right now in the world, but from the few acts i painfully sat through last night it wasn't shown, nor was rock, punk etc).

what i did see was simply because it was going to take some time for a cab to arrive
Well i am from a smaller nation (holland) and we are not finding it that important. The only thing we hate is when we send a good singer and performer we become 13th place and some one ho can't even stay in tune or sing in general becoms 3rd.
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Old 27-05-2003, 00:58
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i still consider the netherlands a large country compared to many in europe.
maybe i should have put it more as the 'more westernised' countries.
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