Just because I believe that obese people should not be allowed in BB because it sets a bad example and lowers the tone of the show does not mean that I do not have a valid argument. I would presume that those who are castigating me are themselves potentially obese or out-of-sorts..

Gos is physically obese with Justine being quite clearly “misshapen” and Cameron “overweight”.. either way they are all overweight.

Yeah definite wind up. Shame you can't structure a sentence accurately.

And (for the third time) the link to the picture of yourself is where...?

You don't have to be overweight to find your Nazi-esque attitude to weight offensive. I'm neither Asian, nor black but find racists offensive- get a better arguement.

Generally speaking, when you see a post that is obviously just there to stir trouble your best bet is to just ignore it (and, if needed, hit alert), don't give them the satisfaction.

I'll leave this thread open for now in case people want a serious discussion on BB selection criteria but if it gets out of hand I'll close it.

~ Beth

This is one Troll we shouldn't overfeed!

Please don't feed the trolls - they thrive on provoking reaction. Reading the indignant fallout is just as dull as the original offensive post to begin with - why bother? Stirring up a storm and getting this mischievous child banned won't save us from more trolls - it will make him squeal with delight and attract even more of them. Just ignore.

I have to disagree on the points about Cameron and Gos. Gos, for his height and making an approx. guess about his weight, would be classed as obese. I'm not going to put my guesses on the post as it might offend some people. Cameron would be classed as overweight using the same method. (Body Mass Index)

I must just mention that at I, at 5'10 and 16st 3lbs, am classed as obese with a BMI of 32.62.

I am aware that BMI is only a guide and a lot of other things can factor in to someones weight gains/losses.

All the women in the house have fine figures including the ones with curves. I like a lady with something to grab a hold of.

My mother always said I was big-boned and covered in puppy-fat. Still am at 25

Nope 5 foot 11, and 11 Stone 3 pounds, ( male)

There are 2 possibilities...

1. Either you are stupid, and don't know the scientific basis for what constitutes 'large'.

2. You are well aware you are incorrect, but have a real angry issue with obese people.

Either case, your anonymity is clearly a sign you are afraid to show your true face.
As someone else said, we'd love to see what you look like, bet you're not exactly the most alluring body in the country.

The point I was making was that overweight people such as those mentioned earlier will struggle to entertain in the same way as someone who is more acceptably sized in society. If you look at Cameron or Gos they are more often than not sat or lay down when not eating whilst Fed, Scott, etc. are often moving around the house.

This obesity crap that comes around every so often is very very annoying, If you use the ideces that are generally accepted as an indication of obesity half the b****y population is obese. Therefore under normal circumstances we should have at least 6 HMs who are over weight.

Just because all the HMs are not super fit should not sully our views of them.

H77 getting particularly angry angry about something that should not even be discussed.

Yep, technically speaking, the girls are not representative of the general female population, they are slimmer than the national average.

More acceptably sized??? What a bizarre concept.

Using the BMI system (weight cubed / height squared) or whatever, most rugby players are clinically overweight. Muscle weighs more than fat.

And as to overweight people not being able to entertain as much, it hasn't stopped people like Phill Jupitus and Royston Vasey (Chubby Brown)... (EDIT - I don't know if he is overweight, but he's not stick-insect thin)

You also need to pay more attention in Biology!
Larger people actually burn of more calories then thinner people ! strange as it may seem , you try walking around with 40lb of weights on you and see if you burn off more calories!

This guy isn't a troll. Trolling is an art. You need to be much cleverer than this guy/girl- he's already back-pedalling and we're not even onto the third page of this thread yet.

I dunno. Where are all the decent trolls these days?

Amnesia, I have to say that I find your comments pretty darned offensive. I am quite happily overweight (see above) and am tucking in to a Mars bar as we speak hehe. I go hiking, cycling, I walk everywhere that I am able to. I walk all day at work (that was until I found DS and now seem to be sat in front of this machine typing out posts...) and I have a very active social life which I am forever 'entertaining'.

Fat people like me generally are funny and entertaining as it's a defense developed from years of bullying in childhood/adulthood. I'm comfortable with who I am but are you comfortable with who you are? Answer - I don't give a flying f*ck so please go away and let's get on with some good auld discussiony-thingy.

Surely, Sissy & Tanya chain smoking also sets a bad example and lowers the tone. Do you object to them being in the house.

Fair point MacattacK, I'm in a similar position, with a weight between 14 and 15 stones in general (I don't look overly fat, but I should try and cut it down a bit), and I'm someone who will walk a distance if it's not more than a couple of miles, cycle if it's a bit further. Only use a car if it's too far or I need to carry more than my hands can take.

I like to think I'm entertaining as well (waits for the snide comments from certain people if they're in this forum )

I got told off last year, so am being a bit better this time round

I am also ex-army, ex-rugby(league) playing, and ex-tremely happy! As my mates say, "You carry it well!".... what was that? Did someone snigger?...

You find the comments offensive because of your own obese state – but this has nothing to do with the original argument which was purely based on overweight people not being able to entertain for long periods of time in a confined place such as the BB house.

There is no reason for people to be fat in this day and age – if you take in less calories and exercise more you *will* lose weight. Those who argue otherwise may very well have psychological issues they need to deal with.. but the fact remains they themselves are to blame.

Once again we are digressing from the real issue that Gos and Cameron are going to find the BB experience difficult in the long-term and viewers will tire of their constant sitting-down (fun?) antics.

Ignoring the obvious prejudice displayed and returnig to the original point:

I do not think ofr one second that in selecting candidates for Big brother they tried to get a representative sample based on size and weight at all. I woudl imagine they were trying to get an interesting mix of personalities that would develop over time.

What reason woudl there be in selecting people due to weight ot size?

Have you actually watched any of this show ?
Gos and Cam. are active housemates. Sure they laze around , but they ALL do.
You have very selective perception, you see only what you want to see.

yep, they choose the housemates primarily on their overall personality/background. Sure, they have a secondary 'token' system, one asian, one scot, etc etc.... ( that thought may annoy some, but i'm sure they do), but most paramount is the personality.
Weight is really not the issue, is it.

OK I was going to press the 'Alert' thingy but that would just be affirming what you just said and, besides, we are all entitled to our opinion. Even you.

I am obese, you clearly are not. I don't understand what you mean by my 'obese state'. Is this my 'fatness'? Anyhoo theres not an original one you can come up with that I haven't heard before. Until you have been in the situation of being clinically obese and having to deal with it I suggest that you shouldn't comment on the mental well-being of said peeps. As for myself being to blame for being fat. Apart from people who have valid medical reasons for being fat, you are absolutely right.

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