N95 now on Three

03-08-2007, 20:31

After all the porkies they told me in the last couple of months........'Not getting it in, too unstable', 'far too many returns', 'wont be in the store this year'..........and so forth well here it is on their website:

http://threestore.three.co.uk/phonep...DSL&tariffid=0

UMRO · 05-08-2007, 20:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by epsomsalts

After all the porkies they told me in the last couple of months........'Not getting it in, too unstable', 'far too many returns', 'wont be in the store this year'..........and so forth well here it is on their website:

http://threestore.three.co.uk/phonep...DSL&tariffid=0

yeah but to get it free you have to spend £45 pm - other networks cheaper.

Video & Talk & Text 1100 600 400 50 50 £ 5 n/a £45.00

05-08-2007, 22:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by UMRO

yeah but to get it free you have to spend £45 pm - other networks cheaper.

Video & Talk & Text 1100 600 400 50 50 £ 5 n/a £45.00

Who is the cheapest just now?

Be interesting to see if they offer me it as a free upgrade when my contract is up in Feb 08.

neo6776 · 05-08-2007, 23:40

Well from what i can see you have to spend £50 a month to get it free on T-mobile

Vodafone seem to be cheaper to start with:- £37.50 then £75.00 after 3 months to get it free

And o2 you have to spend £50 a month to get it free.

Orange you have to pay again £55 per month to get it free.

So in all 3 seem the cheapest so far unless you get it as an upgrade on your current tariff.

Johnny Seven · 06-08-2007, 02:00

In my humble opinion, I would avoid the Nokia N93 according the my local mobile phone supplier there’s is a known fault with the battery

the chimp · 06-08-2007, 10:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Seven

In my humble opinion, I would avoid the Nokia N93 according the my local mobile phone supplier there’s is a known fault with the battery

N93 ?do you mean the N95 which we are on about or the N73 which is also on 3 or are you on about the actual N93 ? Which isnt on 3.

Johnny Seven · 06-08-2007, 17:08

yep sorry I mean N95

Quote:

Originally Posted by the chimp

N93 ?do you mean the N95 which we are on about or the N73 which is also on 3 or are you on about the actual N93 ? Which isnt on 3.

DXRulz · 06-08-2007, 19:31

I bet the poor excuse of 3 firmware will be what makes the N95 unstable. Look at when 3 got their hands on the 6280 for example? So many firmware faults it was unbelieveable!

06-08-2007, 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by neo6776

Well from what i can see you have to spend £50 a month to get it free on T-mobile

Vodafone seem to be cheaper to start with:- £37.50 then £75.00 after 3 months to get it free

And o2 you have to spend £50 a month to get it free.

Orange you have to pay again £55 per month to get it free.

So in all 3 seem the cheapest so far unless you get it as an upgrade on your current tariff.

Carphone Warehouse, free on Orange Racoon, £35 per month

# 700 minutes (anytime to any network)
# 100 texts (anytime to any network)
# 150 minutes (anytime to landlines)

http://shop.carphonewarehouse.com/pa...aphite/orange/

Last edited by epsomsalts : 06-08-2007 at 20:14. Reason: grammar

neo6776 · 06-08-2007, 20:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by epsomsalts

Carphone Warehouse, free on Orange Racoon, £35 per month

# 700 minutes (anytime to any network)
# 100 texts (anytime to any network)
# 150 minutes (anytime to landlines)

http://shop.carphonewarehouse.com/pa...aphite/orange/

ok that's 1 offer lol

the chimp · 06-08-2007, 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by epsomsalts

Carphone Warehouse, free on Orange Racoon, £35 per month

# 700 minutes (anytime to any network)
# 100 texts (anytime to any network)
# 150 minutes (anytime to landlines)

http://shop.carphonewarehouse.com/pa...aphite/orange/

Good find, I just got it on 3 though (literally minutes before seeing this) but.... although I had to pay for the phone 49.99 because I had a moan about minor matters (didnt get nasty just moaned) they offered it me on an equivalent to flext tariff and then added a 25% discount so its costing me 26 quid a month... result

wavejockglw · 07-08-2007, 00:17

The N95 might be a good deal better on T-Mobile or Vodafone as they have the biggest HSDPA coverage on 3G.

T-Mobile have good deals on the N95 and also have Web'N'Walk Pro that allows the phone to be used as a modem for laptop or PDA use (T-Mobile have HSPDA high speed access on all their 3G sites), so you can use the Internet just like at home. 3's limited x-series does not allow any modem use - only phone display web access and applications, making the usage pretty limited.

the chimp · 07-08-2007, 00:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by wavejockglw

The N95 might be a good deal better on T-Mobile or Vodafone as they have the biggest HSDPA coverage on 3G.

T-Mobile have good deals on the N95 and also have Web'N'Walk Pro that allows the phone to be used as a modem for laptop or PDA use (T-Mobile have HSPDA high speed access on all their 3G sites), so you can use the Internet just like at home. 3's limited x-series does not allow any modem use - only phone display web access and applications, making the usage pretty limited.

On t-mobile you will have worse call coverage than 3 (just seems to get worse,must have had 10-15 dropped calls today),it also costs around 130 quid on a 35 pounds tariff, more than 1 three advisor have told me that the x series phones can be used as a modem to laptop too.

wavejockglw · 07-08-2007, 12:24

I wish people would stop listening to the rubbish salespeople spout and check the terms and conditions for acccurate information.

From 3's X-Serises Terms & Conditions.

"Please remember that the X-Series services are for your personal use only and do not include using your mobile as a modem with your PC or laptop."

http://www.three.co.uk/xseries/x_series_help.omp

07-08-2007, 16:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by wavejockglw

I wish people would stop listening to the rubbish salespeople spout and check the terms and conditions for acccurate information

That's what started this thread!

I was in the Three shop in Edinburgh a few months back, asking if the E61i was on the horizon. He hadn't heard of it and didn't know that the E61 on display did not come with a camera.

the chimp · 07-08-2007, 22:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by wavejockglw

I wish people would stop listening to the rubbish salespeople spout and check the terms and conditions for acccurate information.

From 3's X-Serises Terms & Conditions.

"Please remember that the X-Series services are for your personal use only and do not include using your mobile as a modem with your PC or laptop."

http://www.three.co.uk/xseries/x_series_help.omp

Not just from sales people on both occasions they phoned through to check with head office and came back to me a couple of days later with the same answer.

shockonline · 07-08-2007, 22:47

I got the N95 when it first came out on Orange.

I paid £80 for the phone on a £35 months contract.
but got £150 credited to my account and free Bluetooth headset.

500 mins
Unlimted Texts

the chimp · 08-08-2007, 16:57

Just delivered.... looking very sweet

wavejockglw · 08-08-2007, 19:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by the chimp

Not just from sales people on both occasions they phoned through to check with head office and came back to me a couple of days later with the same answer.

Modem use according to the 3 Price Guide costs £2 per Megabyte. The phone uses a special dial-up code to access so it is easy for them to tell whether the handset alone is used or if the phone is being used as a modem.

Others have already reported that they have had to pay unexpected bills for the above reason and a verbal assurance is no defence against 3's publicly available Terms & Conditions.

Be careful!!

squawkBOX · 09-08-2007, 11:09

I work for the company (in a technical role) and there is no way that we can tell the difference between using the internet on your handset or as a "modem."

For X-Series: Whatever happens, you'll get a warning SMS at 1GB and you'll get a "soft-suspend" when you reach 2GB until your next billing cycle.

You are never ever charged for additional data when using X-Series.

The £2 charge that you state is if customers have the addon for "Add Internet 10" or "Add Casual Internet" per additional MB.

It is £1 per additional MB if you are using a datacard.

09-08-2007, 18:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by squawkBOX

I work for the company (in a technical role) and there is no way that we can tell the difference between using the internet on your handset or as a "modem."

For X-Series: Whatever happens, you'll get a warning SMS at 1GB and you'll get a "soft-suspend" when you reach 2GB until your next billing cycle.

You are never ever charged for additional data when using X-Series.

The £2 charge that you state is if customers have the addon for "Add Internet 10" or "Add Casual Internet" per additional MB.

It is £1 per additional MB if you are using a datacard.

Got any info on up and coming phones? I'm a Three customer.

wavejockglw · 09-08-2007, 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by squawkBOX

I work for the company (in a technical role) and there is no way that we can tell the difference between using the internet on your handset or as a "modem."

For X-Series: Whatever happens, you'll get a warning SMS at 1GB and you'll get a "soft-suspend" when you reach 2GB until your next billing cycle.

You are never ever charged for additional data when using X-Series.

The £2 charge that you state is if customers have the addon for "Add Internet 10" or "Add Casual Internet" per additional MB.

It is £1 per additional MB if you are using a datacard.

I don't know what technical capacity ... but modem use is dial-up and authenticated by CLI. A user has to dial *99# to connect - so it's very easy for 3 or any other network to tell when a modem dials in.

I don't know why people deliberately confuse what is a simple issue that is clearly explained in the x-series terms and conditions (link above). I have first hand knowledge of people being charged for modem use on x-series. 3 do not publish restrictive conditions for no reason and it is dangerous suggesting that the company might ignore it's own published terms.

03-08-2007, 20:31	#1
epsomsalts Posts: n/a	N95 now on Three After all the porkies they told me in the last couple of months........'Not getting it in, too unstable', 'far too many returns', 'wont be in the store this year'..........and so forth well here it is on their website: http://threestore.three.co.uk/phonep...DSL&tariffid=0

05-08-2007, 20:39	#2
UMRO Forum Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,806	Quote: Originally Posted by epsomsalts After all the porkies they told me in the last couple of months........'Not getting it in, too unstable', 'far too many returns', 'wont be in the store this year'..........and so forth well here it is on their website: http://threestore.three.co.uk/phonep...DSL&tariffid=0 yeah but to get it free you have to spend £45 pm - other networks cheaper. Video & Talk & Text 1100 600 400 50 50 £ 5 n/a £45.00

05-08-2007, 22:43	#3
epsomsalts Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by UMRO yeah but to get it free you have to spend £45 pm - other networks cheaper. Video & Talk & Text 1100 600 400 50 50 £ 5 n/a £45.00 Who is the cheapest just now? Be interesting to see if they offer me it as a free upgrade when my contract is up in Feb 08.

05-08-2007, 23:40	#4
neo6776 Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Dundee, Scotland ♂ Posts: 9,026	Well from what i can see you have to spend £50 a month to get it free on T-mobile Vodafone seem to be cheaper to start with:- £37.50 then £75.00 after 3 months to get it free And o2 you have to spend £50 a month to get it free. Orange you have to pay again £55 per month to get it free. So in all 3 seem the cheapest so far unless you get it as an upgrade on your current tariff.

06-08-2007, 02:00	#5
Johnny Seven Guest Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 589	In my humble opinion, I would avoid the Nokia N93 according the my local mobile phone supplier there’s is a known fault with the battery

06-08-2007, 10:34	#6
the chimp Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ]]]-- N.F.F.C. --[[[ Posts: 11,635	Quote: Originally Posted by Johnny Seven In my humble opinion, I would avoid the Nokia N93 according the my local mobile phone supplier there’s is a known fault with the battery N93 ?do you mean the N95 which we are on about or the N73 which is also on 3 or are you on about the actual N93 ? Which isnt on 3.

06-08-2007, 17:08	#7
Johnny Seven Guest Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 589	yep sorry I mean N95 Quote: Originally Posted by the chimp N93 ?do you mean the N95 which we are on about or the N73 which is also on 3 or are you on about the actual N93 ? Which isnt on 3.

06-08-2007, 19:31	#8
DXRulz Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oswestry, Shropshire Posts: 4,196	I bet the poor excuse of 3 firmware will be what makes the N95 unstable. Look at when 3 got their hands on the 6280 for example? So many firmware faults it was unbelieveable!

06-08-2007, 20:13	#9
epsomsalts Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by neo6776 Well from what i can see you have to spend £50 a month to get it free on T-mobile Vodafone seem to be cheaper to start with:- £37.50 then £75.00 after 3 months to get it free And o2 you have to spend £50 a month to get it free. Orange you have to pay again £55 per month to get it free. So in all 3 seem the cheapest so far unless you get it as an upgrade on your current tariff. Carphone Warehouse, free on Orange Racoon, £35 per month # 700 minutes (anytime to any network) # 100 texts (anytime to any network) # 150 minutes (anytime to landlines) http://shop.carphonewarehouse.com/pa...aphite/orange/ Last edited by epsomsalts : 06-08-2007 at 20:14. Reason: grammar

06-08-2007, 20:36	#10
neo6776 Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Dundee, Scotland ♂ Posts: 9,026	Quote: Originally Posted by epsomsalts Carphone Warehouse, free on Orange Racoon, £35 per month # 700 minutes (anytime to any network) # 100 texts (anytime to any network) # 150 minutes (anytime to landlines) http://shop.carphonewarehouse.com/pa...aphite/orange/ ok that's 1 offer lol

06-08-2007, 21:18	#11
the chimp Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ]]]-- N.F.F.C. --[[[ Posts: 11,635	Quote: Originally Posted by epsomsalts Carphone Warehouse, free on Orange Racoon, £35 per month # 700 minutes (anytime to any network) # 100 texts (anytime to any network) # 150 minutes (anytime to landlines) http://shop.carphonewarehouse.com/pa...aphite/orange/ Good find, I just got it on 3 though (literally minutes before seeing this) but.... although I had to pay for the phone 49.99 because I had a moan about minor matters (didnt get nasty just moaned) they offered it me on an equivalent to flext tariff and then added a 25% discount so its costing me 26 quid a month... result

07-08-2007, 00:17	#12
wavejockglw Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 10,276	The N95 might be a good deal better on T-Mobile or Vodafone as they have the biggest HSDPA coverage on 3G. T-Mobile have good deals on the N95 and also have Web'N'Walk Pro that allows the phone to be used as a modem for laptop or PDA use (T-Mobile have HSPDA high speed access on all their 3G sites), so you can use the Internet just like at home. 3's limited x-series does not allow any modem use - only phone display web access and applications, making the usage pretty limited.

07-08-2007, 00:27	#13
the chimp Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ]]]-- N.F.F.C. --[[[ Posts: 11,635	Quote: Originally Posted by wavejockglw The N95 might be a good deal better on T-Mobile or Vodafone as they have the biggest HSDPA coverage on 3G. T-Mobile have good deals on the N95 and also have Web'N'Walk Pro that allows the phone to be used as a modem for laptop or PDA use (T-Mobile have HSPDA high speed access on all their 3G sites), so you can use the Internet just like at home. 3's limited x-series does not allow any modem use - only phone display web access and applications, making the usage pretty limited. On t-mobile you will have worse call coverage than 3 (just seems to get worse,must have had 10-15 dropped calls today),it also costs around 130 quid on a 35 pounds tariff, more than 1 three advisor have told me that the x series phones can be used as a modem to laptop too.

07-08-2007, 12:24	#14
wavejockglw Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 10,276	I wish people would stop listening to the rubbish salespeople spout and check the terms and conditions for acccurate information. From 3's X-Serises Terms & Conditions. "Please remember that the X-Series services are for your personal use only and do not include using your mobile as a modem with your PC or laptop." http://www.three.co.uk/xseries/x_series_help.omp

07-08-2007, 16:18	#15
epsomsalts Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by wavejockglw I wish people would stop listening to the rubbish salespeople spout and check the terms and conditions for acccurate information That's what started this thread! I was in the Three shop in Edinburgh a few months back, asking if the E61i was on the horizon. He hadn't heard of it and didn't know that the E61 on display did not come with a camera.

07-08-2007, 22:18	#16
the chimp Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ]]]-- N.F.F.C. --[[[ Posts: 11,635	Quote: Originally Posted by wavejockglw I wish people would stop listening to the rubbish salespeople spout and check the terms and conditions for acccurate information. From 3's X-Serises Terms & Conditions. "Please remember that the X-Series services are for your personal use only and do not include using your mobile as a modem with your PC or laptop." http://www.three.co.uk/xseries/x_series_help.omp Not just from sales people on both occasions they phoned through to check with head office and came back to me a couple of days later with the same answer.

07-08-2007, 22:47	#17
shockonline Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Wolverhampton Posts: 10	I got the N95 when it first came out on Orange. I paid £80 for the phone on a £35 months contract. but got £150 credited to my account and free Bluetooth headset. 500 mins Unlimted Texts

08-08-2007, 16:57	#18
the chimp Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ]]]-- N.F.F.C. --[[[ Posts: 11,635	Just delivered.... looking very sweet

08-08-2007, 19:03	#19
wavejockglw Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 10,276	Quote: Originally Posted by the chimp Not just from sales people on both occasions they phoned through to check with head office and came back to me a couple of days later with the same answer. Modem use according to the 3 Price Guide costs £2 per Megabyte. The phone uses a special dial-up code to access so it is easy for them to tell whether the handset alone is used or if the phone is being used as a modem. Others have already reported that they have had to pay unexpected bills for the above reason and a verbal assurance is no defence against 3's publicly available Terms & Conditions. Be careful!!

09-08-2007, 11:09	#20
squawkBOX Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Central Scotland, UK Posts: 871	I work for the company (in a technical role) and there is no way that we can tell the difference between using the internet on your handset or as a "modem." For X-Series: Whatever happens, you'll get a warning SMS at 1GB and you'll get a "soft-suspend" when you reach 2GB until your next billing cycle. You are never ever charged for additional data when using X-Series. The £2 charge that you state is if customers have the addon for "Add Internet 10" or "Add Casual Internet" per additional MB. It is £1 per additional MB if you are using a datacard.

09-08-2007, 18:02	#21
epsomsalts Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by squawkBOX I work for the company (in a technical role) and there is no way that we can tell the difference between using the internet on your handset or as a "modem." For X-Series: Whatever happens, you'll get a warning SMS at 1GB and you'll get a "soft-suspend" when you reach 2GB until your next billing cycle. You are never ever charged for additional data when using X-Series. The £2 charge that you state is if customers have the addon for "Add Internet 10" or "Add Casual Internet" per additional MB. It is £1 per additional MB if you are using a datacard. Got any info on up and coming phones? I'm a Three customer.

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N95 now on Three

09-08-2007, 18:22	#22
wavejockglw Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 10,276	Quote: Originally Posted by squawkBOX I work for the company (in a technical role) and there is no way that we can tell the difference between using the internet on your handset or as a "modem." For X-Series: Whatever happens, you'll get a warning SMS at 1GB and you'll get a "soft-suspend" when you reach 2GB until your next billing cycle. You are never ever charged for additional data when using X-Series. The £2 charge that you state is if customers have the addon for "Add Internet 10" or "Add Casual Internet" per additional MB. It is £1 per additional MB if you are using a datacard. I don't know what technical capacity ... but modem use is dial-up and authenticated by CLI. A user has to dial *99# to connect - so it's very easy for 3 or any other network to tell when a modem dials in. I don't know why people deliberately confuse what is a simple issue that is clearly explained in the x-series terms and conditions (link above). I have first hand knowledge of people being charged for modem use on x-series. 3 do not publish restrictive conditions for no reason and it is dangerous suggesting that the company might ignore it's own published terms.