2 BT Vision Boxes

mcd33s · 07-08-2007, 08:57

Hi everyone

I've got a BT Vision box, and although it has it's annoyances I really like it and think it can grow.

Anyway, my query today is can I use a 2nd BT Vision box in conjunction with the 1st? My plan is to purchase a Homeplug so my BTV no. 2 can sit upstairs and connected to the Home Hub via the Homeplug.

In addition, do you think I could then use my Setanta Sports card in either of these boxes giving my flexibility around the house?

Your thoughts will be very much appreciated.

Thanks

angrycat · 07-08-2007, 10:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcd33s

Hi everyone
Anyway, my query today is can I use a 2nd BT Vision box in conjunction with the 1st?

It appears that you can, with one or two issues: http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/cgi-b...num=1185193768

mcd33s · 07-08-2007, 11:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by angrycat

It appears that you can, with one or two issues: http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/cgi-b...num=1185193768

many thanks angrycat

mcd33s · 21-08-2007, 22:05

Thought I would give you all an update on the 2 Vision boxes...

Just installed a 2nd BTV box upstairs. So, now got the following:-

BTV box in livingroom connected directly to the Home Hub. Working perfectly.
BTV box in upstairs room connected via Homeplugs. Took a couple of soft resets, but all now working.

On Demand working perfectly on both BTV boxes, but only 1 at a time.

I also have Setanta - the card was originally installed downstairs, however I can take the card out and put it upstairs and it works prefectly (much to my wife's joy!).

Recordings need connection to the Home Hub via the Homeplug, but I can live with that.

Overall, looking good just now!

Thought this info may be of use to some of you out there.

paradisiac · 23-08-2007, 08:33

can both boxes record at the same time as i believe this is done via broadband too?

speckledhen · 23-08-2007, 08:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcd33s

Thought I would give you all an update on the 2 Vision boxes...

Just installed a 2nd BTV box upstairs. So, now got the following:-

BTV box in livingroom connected directly to the Home Hub. Working perfectly.
BTV box in upstairs room connected via Homeplugs. Took a couple of soft resets, but all now working.

On Demand working perfectly on both BTV boxes, but only 1 at a time.

I also have Setanta - the card was originally installed downstairs, however I can take the card out and put it upstairs and it works prefectly (much to my wife's joy!).

Recordings need connection to the Home Hub via the Homeplug, but I can live with that.

Overall, looking good just now!

Thought this info may be of use to some of you out there.

Another question.
Can you schedule different recordings to each box, or if you set up a scheduled recording on one box do both record.

tomlangford · 23-08-2007, 08:49

Sounds good.

I have a box for sale if anyone is interested. Going on ebay later today.

Also you could use a Wireless bridge or some sort of access point instead of home plugs.

tom

Storm_Force · 23-08-2007, 18:32

how much for the box?

mcd33s · 23-08-2007, 20:13

The BB drives recordings, so I can only record the same things on both boxes. That's the downside.

However, I currently have never needed to record any more than 2 programmes at the same time, so what i do is record whatever the program is, then delete it from the box I don't need that recording on.

angrycat · 23-08-2007, 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcd33s

The BB drives recordings, so I can only record the same things on both boxes. That's the downside.

Apparently you can schedule record two programmes and manually record another two using both boxes: http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/cgi-b...num=1185193768

mcd33s · 23-08-2007, 20:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by angrycat

Apparently you can schedule record two programmes and manually record another two using both boxes: http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/cgi-b...num=1185193768

Apologies Angrycat - you told me that at the top of this Discussion.

Thanks for the reminder

angrycat · 23-08-2007, 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcd33s

Apologies Angrycat - you told me that at the top of this Discussion.

Thanks for the reminder

Well it was a couple of weeks ago, so easy to forget

tomlangford · 23-08-2007, 21:59

I'd like £45 inc p&p ish for the V-Box

tomlangford · 23-08-2007, 22:18

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MESE:IT&ih=012

speckledhen · 24-08-2007, 06:52

Here is another scenario. Have you tried powering down one/both boxes? do they both boot up ok?

mcd33s · 25-08-2007, 17:04

Update :

My original box has lost it's recording facility. When going to the menu there is no Recordings option.
After many soft/full resets I called the Helpdesk, completed factory resets and still no joy. I'm now awaiting a callback to arrange a new box.

The additional box still works fine though, with the recording facility working as it's supposed to.

Do you think by having both boxes running together has caused this problem? Or is it just coincidence?

speckledhen · 26-08-2007, 08:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcd33s

Update :

My original box has lost it's recording facility. When going to the menu there is no Recordings option.
After many soft/full resets I called the Helpdesk, completed factory resets and still no joy. I'm now awaiting a callback to arrange a new box.

The additional box still works fine though, with the recording facility working as it's supposed to.

Do you think by having both boxes running together has caused this problem? Or is it just coincidence?

I think it is not a coincidence. The client ID of the V box is registered against your telephone line, attaching a 2nd box causes the original client id to be removed and replaced by the 2nd one. certain functions on both boxes will work ok. Only the V box that is currently registered will have full functionability

mcd33s · 26-08-2007, 09:22

The box that has lost the recording feature was connected to the telephone line - the box I added was not connected to the telephone line. Does that makeany difference?

I was unaware of your comments RE the clinet registration

speckledhen · 26-08-2007, 11:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcd33s

The box that has lost the recording feature was connected to the telephone line - the box I added was not connected to the telephone line. Does that makeany difference?

I was unaware of your comments RE the clinet registration

Sorry, I did not mean the pstn connection on rear of box, I should have said your main BB line, via the hub.

The pstn connection has no function and poss never will

angrycat · 26-08-2007, 11:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by speckledhen

The pstn connection has no function and poss never will

The pstn connection does have a function: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=647602

speckledhen · 26-08-2007, 11:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by angrycat

The pstn connection does have a function: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=647602

Have you tried using the phone book option to call a number with the PSTN lead unplugged from the V box?

I use mine a lot and I do not have a pstn cable connected.
and it works fine for me.

I believe that BT will not be using the PSTN cord function for any purpose as proved by the new self install that uses the home plugs that only provides an ethernet connection.

mcd33s · 26-08-2007, 12:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by speckledhen

I think it is not a coincidence. The client ID of the V box is registered against your telephone line, attaching a 2nd box causes the original client id to be removed and replaced by the 2nd one. certain functions on both boxes will work ok. Only the V box that is currently registered will have full functionability

So with what you're saying here Speckledhen, does this mean 2 boxes will not work at all? Or have I possibly set the 2 boxes up wrongly or used them wrong? BTV Helpdesk are to arrange a new box, but I'm worried that if I set up the two boxes again the same issue will happen i.e. losing services/recording from one of the boxes?

paradisiac · 26-08-2007, 12:08

i was under the impression BT were not approving of 2 boxes being used, so i would say you are unlikley to solve it by replacing the box. although there will be plans for multi-room option in the near future. but i may of miss understood

speckledhen · 26-08-2007, 12:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcd33s

So with what you're saying here Speckledhen, does this mean 2 boxes will not work at all? Or have I possibly set the 2 boxes up wrongly or used them wrong? BTV Helpdesk are to arrange a new box, but I'm worried that if I set up the two boxes again the same issue will happen i.e. losing services/recording from one of the boxes?

Correct, 2 boxes at the moment will not work with all functions available on both boxes, maybe later introduced like sky multi room

paradisiac · 26-08-2007, 12:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by speckledhen

Correct, 2 boxes at the moment will not work with all functions available on both boxes, maybe later introduced like sky multi room

my guess is end of november as a xmas selling point

07-08-2007, 08:57	#1
mcd33s Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 37	2 BT Vision Boxes Hi everyone I've got a BT Vision box, and although it has it's annoyances I really like it and think it can grow. Anyway, my query today is can I use a 2nd BT Vision box in conjunction with the 1st? My plan is to purchase a Homeplug so my BTV no. 2 can sit upstairs and connected to the Home Hub via the Homeplug. In addition, do you think I could then use my Setanta Sports card in either of these boxes giving my flexibility around the house? Your thoughts will be very much appreciated. Thanks

07-08-2007, 10:27	#2
angrycat Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: West London, UB4 Posts: 211	Quote: Originally Posted by mcd33s Hi everyone Anyway, my query today is can I use a 2nd BT Vision box in conjunction with the 1st? It appears that you can, with one or two issues: http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/cgi-b...num=1185193768

07-08-2007, 11:01	#3
mcd33s Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 37	Quote: Originally Posted by angrycat It appears that you can, with one or two issues: http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/cgi-b...num=1185193768 many thanks angrycat

21-08-2007, 22:05	#4
mcd33s Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 37	Thought I would give you all an update on the 2 Vision boxes... Just installed a 2nd BTV box upstairs. So, now got the following:- BTV box in livingroom connected directly to the Home Hub. Working perfectly. BTV box in upstairs room connected via Homeplugs. Took a couple of soft resets, but all now working. On Demand working perfectly on both BTV boxes, but only 1 at a time. I also have Setanta - the card was originally installed downstairs, however I can take the card out and put it upstairs and it works prefectly (much to my wife's joy!). Recordings need connection to the Home Hub via the Homeplug, but I can live with that. Overall, looking good just now! Thought this info may be of use to some of you out there.

23-08-2007, 08:33	#5
paradisiac Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: cornwall Posts: 417	can both boxes record at the same time as i believe this is done via broadband too?

23-08-2007, 08:41	#6
speckledhen Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 767	Quote: Originally Posted by mcd33s Thought I would give you all an update on the 2 Vision boxes... Just installed a 2nd BTV box upstairs. So, now got the following:- BTV box in livingroom connected directly to the Home Hub. Working perfectly. BTV box in upstairs room connected via Homeplugs. Took a couple of soft resets, but all now working. On Demand working perfectly on both BTV boxes, but only 1 at a time. I also have Setanta - the card was originally installed downstairs, however I can take the card out and put it upstairs and it works prefectly (much to my wife's joy!). Recordings need connection to the Home Hub via the Homeplug, but I can live with that. Overall, looking good just now! Thought this info may be of use to some of you out there. Another question. Can you schedule different recordings to each box, or if you set up a scheduled recording on one box do both record.

23-08-2007, 08:49	#7
tomlangford Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 25	Sounds good. I have a box for sale if anyone is interested. Going on ebay later today. Also you could use a Wireless bridge or some sort of access point instead of home plugs. tom

23-08-2007, 18:32	#8
Storm_Force Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 86	how much for the box?

23-08-2007, 20:13	#9
mcd33s Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 37	The BB drives recordings, so I can only record the same things on both boxes. That's the downside. However, I currently have never needed to record any more than 2 programmes at the same time, so what i do is record whatever the program is, then delete it from the box I don't need that recording on.

23-08-2007, 20:22	#10
angrycat Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: West London, UB4 Posts: 211	Quote: Originally Posted by mcd33s The BB drives recordings, so I can only record the same things on both boxes. That's the downside. Apparently you can schedule record two programmes and manually record another two using both boxes: http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/cgi-b...num=1185193768

23-08-2007, 20:41	#11
mcd33s Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 37	Quote: Originally Posted by angrycat Apparently you can schedule record two programmes and manually record another two using both boxes: http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/cgi-b...num=1185193768 Apologies Angrycat - you told me that at the top of this Discussion. Thanks for the reminder

23-08-2007, 20:46	#12
angrycat Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: West London, UB4 Posts: 211	Quote: Originally Posted by mcd33s Apologies Angrycat - you told me that at the top of this Discussion. Thanks for the reminder Well it was a couple of weeks ago, so easy to forget

23-08-2007, 21:59	#13
tomlangford Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 25	I'd like £45 inc p&p ish for the V-Box

23-08-2007, 22:18	#14
tomlangford Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 25	http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MESE:IT&ih=012

24-08-2007, 06:52	#15
speckledhen Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 767	Here is another scenario. Have you tried powering down one/both boxes? do they both boot up ok?

25-08-2007, 17:04	#16
mcd33s Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 37	Update : My original box has lost it's recording facility. When going to the menu there is no Recordings option. After many soft/full resets I called the Helpdesk, completed factory resets and still no joy. I'm now awaiting a callback to arrange a new box. The additional box still works fine though, with the recording facility working as it's supposed to. Do you think by having both boxes running together has caused this problem? Or is it just coincidence?

26-08-2007, 08:47	#17
speckledhen Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 767	Quote: Originally Posted by mcd33s Update : My original box has lost it's recording facility. When going to the menu there is no Recordings option. After many soft/full resets I called the Helpdesk, completed factory resets and still no joy. I'm now awaiting a callback to arrange a new box. The additional box still works fine though, with the recording facility working as it's supposed to. Do you think by having both boxes running together has caused this problem? Or is it just coincidence? I think it is not a coincidence. The client ID of the V box is registered against your telephone line, attaching a 2nd box causes the original client id to be removed and replaced by the 2nd one. certain functions on both boxes will work ok. Only the V box that is currently registered will have full functionability

26-08-2007, 09:22	#18
mcd33s Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 37	The box that has lost the recording feature was connected to the telephone line - the box I added was not connected to the telephone line. Does that makeany difference? I was unaware of your comments RE the clinet registration

26-08-2007, 11:27	#19
speckledhen Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 767	Quote: Originally Posted by mcd33s The box that has lost the recording feature was connected to the telephone line - the box I added was not connected to the telephone line. Does that makeany difference? I was unaware of your comments RE the clinet registration Sorry, I did not mean the pstn connection on rear of box, I should have said your main BB line, via the hub. The pstn connection has no function and poss never will

26-08-2007, 11:31	#20
angrycat Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: West London, UB4 Posts: 211	Quote: Originally Posted by speckledhen The pstn connection has no function and poss never will The pstn connection does have a function: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=647602

26-08-2007, 11:57	#21
speckledhen Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 767	Quote: Originally Posted by angrycat The pstn connection does have a function: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=647602 Have you tried using the phone book option to call a number with the PSTN lead unplugged from the V box? I use mine a lot and I do not have a pstn cable connected. and it works fine for me. I believe that BT will not be using the PSTN cord function for any purpose as proved by the new self install that uses the home plugs that only provides an ethernet connection.

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26-08-2007, 12:00	#22
mcd33s Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 37	Quote: Originally Posted by speckledhen I think it is not a coincidence. The client ID of the V box is registered against your telephone line, attaching a 2nd box causes the original client id to be removed and replaced by the 2nd one. certain functions on both boxes will work ok. Only the V box that is currently registered will have full functionability So with what you're saying here Speckledhen, does this mean 2 boxes will not work at all? Or have I possibly set the 2 boxes up wrongly or used them wrong? BTV Helpdesk are to arrange a new box, but I'm worried that if I set up the two boxes again the same issue will happen i.e. losing services/recording from one of the boxes?

26-08-2007, 12:08	#23
paradisiac Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: cornwall Posts: 417	i was under the impression BT were not approving of 2 boxes being used, so i would say you are unlikley to solve it by replacing the box. although there will be plans for multi-room option in the near future. but i may of miss understood

26-08-2007, 12:33	#24
speckledhen Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 767	Quote: Originally Posted by mcd33s So with what you're saying here Speckledhen, does this mean 2 boxes will not work at all? Or have I possibly set the 2 boxes up wrongly or used them wrong? BTV Helpdesk are to arrange a new box, but I'm worried that if I set up the two boxes again the same issue will happen i.e. losing services/recording from one of the boxes? Correct, 2 boxes at the moment will not work with all functions available on both boxes, maybe later introduced like sky multi room

26-08-2007, 12:59	#25
paradisiac Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: cornwall Posts: 417	Quote: Originally Posted by speckledhen Correct, 2 boxes at the moment will not work with all functions available on both boxes, maybe later introduced like sky multi room my guess is end of november as a xmas selling point