I don't think the girls are as unified as they appear to be though. Might not play out this week but I think we will see cracks soon enough. I haven't seen any 'real' bonding between Tania and Nush for instance, nor between Justine and Sissy, or Justine and Tania. Their interaction just smacks of superficiality to me.

Whereas the boys, or at least some of them, have a much stronger bond formed already, i.e Fed, Scott and Ray and perhaps even Gos to some extent. I wouldn't be suprised if their nominations turn out to be pretty similar.

I definitely agree that there is gender divide in the house. Scott and Fed seem to barely tolerate the girls (did anyone see the little fuss in the girls bedroom last night? Fed and Scott didn't even budge). It'll be interesting to see how this plays out when the nominations are revealed.

I was thinking more of Steph, Sissy, Nush and Tania coming together gradually. Justine is becoming more of an outsider amongst the girls and the group as a whole.


Hmm... Scott seemed to harbour a little resentment towards Fed for mucking up the task but he may well have forgiven him now. Ray is considering leaving the house so his vote may not count for much anymore. Gos is another outsider - who knows where his real loyalties lie. That's Fed and Scott in an alliance - two against four.

Interesting that ... as always the who is the alpha-male question rears its ugly head! Have to say that I can't see Jon and Fed as alpha male contenders - well, maybe more Fed, but he tried too hard. Ditto Gos, who is probably quite 'alpha' in his role as a chef. I think Scott is emerging as the most alpha of the males, but it's ont a particularly strong bunch. As for the females, Tania seems the strongest and yet it seems to me that she is gradually allying with Justine, who I could see as being jealous of the strongest-female role, probably quite 'powerful' in her real life.

On second thoughts, Nush is more of an outsider than Justine. She's a bit of a flake, isn't she?

It would be a huge missed opportunity if the women didn't get their act together. They're all fairly strong characters.

Of course its hard to work together when you cannot discuss nominations - its always fun that the folk in the house and we outside the house can see things so very differently

But then again, no-one finds her objectionable. If anything, Nush is treated with quiet affection.

I think Anouska's departure might 'gel' the girls to some extent, although they might have eventually bonded against her, because she was close to Scott and Fed. We'll never know. I think the earlier point that it's the lack of genuine sexual chemistry which is the real reason for the girls and boys 'divide' (although it is not acrimonious). This may change - we shall see I guess. It's all a bit happy-clappy, low-octane stuff right now.

It's against the rules to discuss the nomination process, but it's not against the rules to bitch...

I agree that Nush is the outsider of the girls... I think it's really hard to guess this week...

Nush is almost like the Helen of BB4, isn't she?

She doesn't really seem to have bonded significantly with anyone but has possibly found some protectors in Cameron and Gos. Even Jon has expressed concern for her. People speculated that Nush is possibly quite calculating on the quiet, so maybe this is part of her plan??

If she is playing for sympathy from the blokes, I can see her alienating the other girls eventually.

Then again maybe Nush is just nice.

Hmmm ...

Apart from being blonde and (possibly) mostly harmless, I don't see any other similarities. Helen, was incredibly annoying, marginally attractive, not very bright and unbearably chirpy.

Nush is less obviously annoying, very attractive, not obviously stupid and veering towards introspection. Her main sins seem to be not being particularly interesting and being a pseudo-hippy chick.

In general (not just Nush) all this agonising over nominations is getting old really fast

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In terms of her position in the group, Nush seems very reminiscent of Helen. She projects vulnerability (sincerely or otherwise) and some of the men seem to want to look after her.

I think Nush is possibly to take over from Anouska as the "baby" of the group. Sissy may have tried but it seems to have backfired on her if her thread is anything to go by.

But speculation about what is going to happen is one of the key factors in discussing BB as it has been in each series.

I think Scott is attracted to Sissy (& possibly vice versa)
Justine is attracted to Scott & Cameron
Steph fancies Fed
Fed fancies Nush & Justine
Ray fancies Tania
Gos, Cameron and John enjoy looking at the girls

I think these attractions will prevent a boy-girl divide becoming very intense.

Also I think the guilt felt over Anouska going will make the housemates less likely to nominate another girl this week.

Agreed. I specifically meant the "It's not fair that we have to nominate"-style whining, rather than the difficulty one might have in deciding which two to nominate. Them's the breaks, sweetheart.

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I think he thought you meant that we were agonising too much about the nominations rather than as you say the housemates are. Simple case of the internet causing crossed wires. That's one problem with message boards its very easy to confuse 2 things and very hard to distinguish things likes irony and sarcasm from actual comments!

I really do believe that the sort of complaining they are doing about having to nominate is, in some cases not all, a front so that they can fool the people in the house into believing they aren't going to be "personal" in their own nominations. For Sissy I think it will backfire because she is overplaying it far too much and maybe she actually is stressing about making a choice but I think everybody in the house is beginning to get fed up with her talking about it (not to mention a few people on the outside!).

There are some who would be overly pessimistic and assume that Nush has a dark side because she is being nice, but I really do think that she is geniunely a nice person, maybe its because she's to simple to find offense with anybody, but I think she is just one of those people who is that nice. Problem is, people can feel threatened by that kind of attitude and it may end up getting her a few enemies and nominations.

I don't see any evidence at all that Steph fancies Fed, or that any of them are genuinely attracted to each other. There's a difference between mild flirting and really fancying someone.

I think a girls/boys divide won't actually be explicit. It will only manifest itself on nomination day.

Steph fancies Fed - you're havin a laff intcha!!!

I don't think Nush has a 'dark side' cos she's too 'nice' personally. What has she actually DONE that is NICE? She just stands there looking miserable ALL THE TIME. Watch her face when she's not in a conversation... I've never seen such negative vibes radiating from a Big brother housemate EVER.

On the other hand I feel that people have decided that Nush is 'nice' because they want her to be the gorgeous NICE blonde... I think it's the opposite to what you said.

And even then I don't think they'll know that there's a divide themselves cos obviously they only know who they voted for.

If this week sees one girl nominated and one boy nominated, the divide will become stronger still...

As to whether Nush is nice or not - she seems very inoffensive. The female version of Ray perhaps...

Excellent observation,couldn't agree more.I suspect the BB producers,too, will be concerned at this.

And what a girl !! Tara !! Clara Bow was the original IT girl back in the 20s.

Whether wannabe or is-already, Tania does have the aura of an IT girl. Dare I say that Posh Spice,too,comes under this category. Not coz of her name Posh but something one knows not why.

Oh no... Mrs. Beckham is very modern-day nouveau riche...
Tania's nice on the whole but very arriviste at the same time.

What a great thread this is !! My favourite,too, of BB4Let's keep it going some.

I'll throw in an attraction and mark this space.

Fed and Sissy...very big time if Fed survives long enough.

Crimpo said
'Core - Anoushka, Fed, Ray, Scott, Sissy, Tania

I don't think Tania is in there though, I don't think she is liked by Scott, Fed or Ray.