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Are We Getting C4+1???
marcouk76
15-08-2007
On Freeview from Monday... are we getting it too? Does anyone know?
jimmy22
15-08-2007
yes it will be available on cable from Monday
tv watcher
15-08-2007
did i miss something but tiscali isnt cable!

as for c4+1 proberly not as it dosent have anyother +1 channels,

but you never know dont hold your breath on it
Nikhil
16-08-2007
Don't expect anything at launch, maybe we'll see it in "end-september" when all the new changes are apparently happening.
crane grove
16-08-2007
are the changes rumoured to be happening at the end of september or is that cast in iron?
Peter We
16-08-2007
Do we really need any +1 channels as we have replay??
tv watcher
16-08-2007
changes? what new changes
M_at
16-08-2007
New box, HD + PVR, Sky channels I guess.
Peter We
17-08-2007
And Nationwide launch.
Nikhil
18-08-2007
we do have replay, but its not for everything, whereas the +1 channels have everything obviously. plus, if freeview can get it why shouldn't tiscali tv have it!!

The end-september date was given to me by a customer services operator which she read from a memo, don't hold your breath tho, it was supposed to be july and it keeps getting pushed back. There will be big things and new packages tho. I just hope we get Hi def and not get charged for the new boxes!!
EmsLdn78
20-08-2007
In answer to the "will we get C4+1?" question, the answer is a "resounding no... umm I'm not sure" from Tiscali TV.
I called to ask, I was put on hold, then the customer service guy came back and said yes, it'll be taking over the slot that more 4+1 had...
I had to tell him that Tiscali customers don't get more 4+1. He said, "ooh, you do if you've got freeview."
I said, how lovely for freeview recipients.
So, after speaking to his manager who supplied him with that nugget of pure gold, I asked about the rollout of the new box (I asked because I read a post today from someone saying they'd had a new box installed) and I was initially told "End of August"
"07? As in the end of next week?" I asked
"Err... well there is an ongoing trial and until that is complete we wont know when the new boxes will be rolled out"
So in conclusion... they know about as much as we do.
In some cases, less!
marcouk76
20-08-2007
What A Shame!

No Tmf, E4+1, Ch4+1, The Hits, Ftn, Sky Two, Sky News, Sky Sports News, ...
jon_ellacott
20-08-2007
Originally Posted by marcouk76:
“What A Shame!

No Tmf, E4+1, Ch4+1, The Hits, Ftn, Sky Two, Sky News, Sky Sports News, ...”

To be honest I couldn't care less about the +1 channels, as to me they are a waste of time anyway plus if I want to watch them I have a Freeview box and Freeview boxes are cheap to pick up now. The Hits and TMF aren't worth bothering about, as you can get most of the music video's on VMX, and on demand when you want to watch them,and TMF shows stuff that is on MTV One and VH1 anyway. The only ones I want on Tiscali are the Sky Channels, and as they are coming to the Tiscali platform I don't mind waiting. FTN (soon to be Virgin One) is the only channel I hope Virgin Media give to Tiscali as I do like watching Most Haunted and Bullseye, but again I have my Freeview box.

Also, with regards to customer services, they are no worse than Virgin Media/ Former Telewest. They were useless!!!
marcouk76
20-08-2007
Originally Posted by jon_ellacott:
“To be honest I couldn't care less about the +1 channels, as to me they are a waste of time anyway plus if I want to watch them I have a Freeview box and Freeview boxes are cheap to pick up now. The Hits and TMF aren't worth bothering about, as you can get most of the music video's on VMX, and on demand when you want to watch them,and TMF shows stuff that is on MTV One and VH1 anyway. The only ones I want on Tiscali are the Sky Channels, and as they are coming to the Tiscali platform I don't mind waiting. FTN (soon to be Virgin One) is the only channel I hope Virgin Media give to Tiscali as I do like watching Most Haunted and Bullseye, but again I have my Freeview box.

Also, with regards to customer services, they are no worse than Virgin Media/ Former Telewest. They were useless!!!”

Well... I don't have a freeview box. Not because I don't want to spend another £30 odd, but because I don't want yet another box which will gather dust, needs to be plugged, etc.
TMF and The Hits. For you aren't worth bothering about, I like them if that's ok with you! To get VMX, MTV 1 etc you need to fork out another £16 on top of your basic subscription which I honestly don't feel like doing.
The +1 channels might not be of your interest, but I'd quite like to have them. If Freeview users get them for nothing, why should we not when we are paying a monthly subs?!??
Nikhil
20-08-2007
gotta say i agree with marco, with tiscali we should at least be getting what the ppl with freeview get. (tho arguably i now have freeview with my lcd tv, so have the best of both worlds!)
stevenalis
20-08-2007
Pretty certain Telwest users will have C4+1. I'm sure I saw it on my "freeview" cable box last night although I could have sworn it was showing a film four programme which is why I thought I had misread the channel name.

Just realised after posting that I'm in the Tiscali section!! Sorry Guys
marcouk76
21-08-2007
Originally Posted by stevenalis:
“Pretty certain Telwest users will have C4+1. I'm sure I saw it on my "freeview" cable box last night although I could have sworn it was showing a film four programme which is why I thought I had misread the channel name.

Just realised after posting that I'm in the Tiscali section!! Sorry Guys”

jon_ellacott
21-08-2007
Originally Posted by marcouk76:
“Well... I don't have a freeview box. Not because I don't want to spend another £30 odd, but because I don't want yet another box which will gather dust, needs to be plugged, etc.
TMF and The Hits. For you aren't worth bothering about, I like them if that's ok with you! To get VMX, MTV 1 etc you need to fork out another £16 on top of your basic subscription which I honestly don't feel like doing.
The +1 channels might not be of your interest, but I'd quite like to have them. If Freeview users get them for nothing, why should we not when we are paying a monthly subs?!??”

I don't know where you go to buy a Freeview box but you can pick them up quite cheaply for around £14 (Look in Poundstrechers, Tesco, Cash Converters etc.) , so if you did that you would be saving money anyway if you didn't want to buy the Music Pack on Tiscali!!! Personally for me I have pretty much everything, Music and Kids packs and it is certainly good value anyway, plus I have 3 freeview boxes in the house.
I don't see why people moan so much about Tiscali, seriously I was with Telewest for 3 years and they were far more useless than Tiscali TV are (my parents have also been with Telewest/ Virgin Media for 20 years as they had it when cable first started in Croydon in the 80's and they are thinking changing over services to Tiscali or Sky).

Also when you have the option of BBC Replay and 4OD I don't still see the need for the +1 channels.
If you want them I also don't see the problem of buying a freeview box if you desperately want them so much as these channels really are a waste of space and could be used for better programming.
Rufus Londinii
21-08-2007
Bear in mind the new box will reportedly be DTT (Freeview) capable as well but the question is whether they will continue to send these channels down the line.
marcouk76
22-08-2007
Originally Posted by jon_ellacott:
“I don't know where you go to buy a Freeview box but you can pick them up quite cheaply for around £14 (Look in Poundstrechers, Tesco, Cash Converters etc.) , so if you did that you would be saving money anyway if you didn't want to buy the Music Pack on Tiscali!!! Personally for me I have pretty much everything, Music and Kids packs and it is certainly good value anyway, plus I have 3 freeview boxes in the house.
I don't see why people moan so much about Tiscali, seriously I was with Telewest for 3 years and they were far more useless than Tiscali TV are (my parents have also been with Telewest/ Virgin Media for 20 years as they had it when cable first started in Croydon in the 80's and they are thinking changing over services to Tiscali or Sky).

Also when you have the option of BBC Replay and 4OD I don't still see the need for the +1 channels.
If you want them I also don't see the problem of buying a freeview box if you desperately want them so much as these channels really are a waste of space and could be used for better programming.”

But it just don't! So your whole argument is flawed...!

Also, I have already told you that I am not interested in having another piece of electronic junk sitting in my living room gathering dust and wasting electricity.

It wouldn't cost Tiscali anything to just pipe through the Freeview channels and, considering we are paying -at least- £14.99 per month, we should at least be guaranteed to receive ALL the Freeview channels.
jon_ellacott
22-08-2007
Originally Posted by marcouk76:
“But it just don't! So your whole argument is flawed...!

Also, I have already told you that I am not interested in having another piece of electronic junk sitting in my living room gathering dust and wasting electricity.

It wouldn't cost Tiscali anything to just pipe through the Freeview channels and, considering we are paying -at least- £14.99 per month, we should at least be guaranteed to receive ALL the Freeview channels.”

But that isn't the case, as I am sure that Tiscali would still have to ask the relevant broadcasters if these channels could be shown on there platform. Tiscali and Freeview are two completely seperate entities!!

I am sure some people just moan for the sake of moaning!!
marcouk76
24-08-2007
Originally Posted by jon_ellacott:
“But that isn't the case, as I am sure that Tiscali would still have to ask the relevant broadcasters if these channels could be shown on there platform. Tiscali and Freeview are two completely seperate entities!!

I am sure some people just moan for the sake of moaning!!”

Yes, you convinced me with your very valid arguments...
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