yeah I understand Lala. He has handled the pressure better than any of them. Hes been nommed twice.

I suppose it was just the first week and a half he was so hard to understand yet he was very happy. Now hes integrating and getting involved in house politics but hes still the star of the show but I suppose he is becoming more human now which is good for him in the house but maybe not so good for us viewers. We will see.

Hes still got no malice in him (apart from the odd Justine & food jibe)

So Jon's to blame for everyone being an asrehole towards him? Poor sod... He can't win.

He's helped people with the task, and got it thrown back in his face. He's just tried to help with the food situation and it's been thrown back in his face, by the very same people who asked him to have a word.

No wonder he goes off to read his Shakespeare.

No i blame the rest of the housemates IQ

1 lol

was bb3's iq below the scale then?

Well comparing Jade IQ to Fed no.

AT least Jade could past some tasks and do things. Fed is all talk no action

i wonder if he will read all tha abuse he is gettin on this forum next week? thats only assuming hes not kiked out before then!

Oh i hope he does because i am going to give him a right mouthful............trust me i do like to tell people what i think about them at the front of their face, its just priceless

cost of cheap hair gel- £0.50
cost of keeping task failure a secret- possible eviction
cost of reading half of this forum- priceless!

it was mainly the lack of self respect he showed that saddened me. He was probably being logical thinking he was going but it set up the scene for Sissy to talk in front of him. He said "nuts" when he heard the eviction.

it might be nothing though. He doesnt seem like someone who would back off if he felt his self-respect was under real strain or whatever.

hes talking to Sissy just now. Some sort of theory about the number of girls to meet the right partner ratio (similar to last week). This is a fun convo and Sissy is participating nice.

Of course he has flaws, I would be seriously worried if he didn't. Quite frankly I feel his behaviour is excellent considering that the majority of hms are down right rude to him. It's their behaviour imo that is seriously flawed.

BTW Cameron's accent seems to be getting stronger day by day,or is it just me?

I wonder if he'll ever say 'I'VE BEEN NOMINATED THREE FOOKIN TIMES!!!!!!!!!'

? Hmmmmmm

Not according to that top American producer who is now working with her. He said that he was very impressed with how much effort she'd put into her business plan, when she came to see him.

Maybe Cam was taking the trouble to modify his accent so the rest could understand hiim......can be very difficult to the 'untrained' ear. Now that he's been there a while he's getting comfy and expecting them to understand his accent without his making an effort.

Goodfella,

I'm inclined to agree that the unnaturalness of the BB house is starting to affect Jon now. His difficulty in compromising on the bell-ringing learning method was classic petulance at not getting his own way. The fact that he (and Cameron) were right means nothing if the others don't want to follow his lead. He really should have accepted this with good grace.

BBG

yeah, but given the monumental dimness of the other housemates, and that their failure to understand the right way to do the task was likely to result in another week with no food, you can see why Jon might be feeling a liitle miffed...not to mention the fact that they have been quite nasty to him in all sorts of ways.

I think that overall, Jon has been remarkably restrained, given what he has had to put up with from the other HMs

I would have been searching the garden for poisonous plants with which to flavour their s*dding porridge, long before now...

I feel he weighed up the situation wrong. He knew he was right, and he also knew that Cam knew he was right. He expected backing from Cam, and I think it hit him hard when the backing wasn't there. so he got stoppy. he probably thought.. " ok 10 mins then they will get it and all will be forgiven"
But they didn't want to know, so that didn't work. He made a human error, expecting them to give it a go.
I think his abrupt reaction was more shock at the realisation of how the HM's all percieve him..
When you can see people are doing thing's the hard way and given a chance you can make the task easier. It is difficult to step down with good grace. For his own sake he should have really.. but he was frustrated by then.

I'd be sleeping with the chicken's by now feeling very sorry for myself. Jon has grit !

..........but apparently Jon's method was given a try later on and they didn't like it.

I remember when Jon first entered the house and he said,'Well as soon as I am nominated I know I will be out - I'm prepared for that'. I think Jon must be feeling quite shocked that he is still in the house, and especially as he must know that the majority of the HM want him out, yet the public do not.......

With all that animosity around him do you think that he could ever walk? Or perhaphs he is thinking that the public are making fun of him - after all no other HM have once said congratulations to him (for staying) or even discussed why he is still in.......

I would guess that Jon is just really confused and that is probably why is has become quieter and has stopped with the 'Jonish' quibs etc......

I watched them " trying" on E4...
They tried it for all of 2 min's and messed about throughout. Giggling and not concentrating. They were determined it wasn't going to work.
They deserve to fail this time around.

Not immediately but while the girls were in the bedroom with Justine, all the boys came up to Jon, congratulated him and shook his hand.

I was only going by what Iain said on R:SE this morning, I didn't know they only spent 2 minutes trying.

But they agreed to try with very bad grace.........it seemed to me as if they were deliberately trying to make his method look silly. None of them like being told how to do things, they don't like to have flaws pointed out to them (well, who does?). It would probably make the pea-brains feel a lot better if they could say "well we tried it your way Jon and it's not working, see, see, nyah nyah!".

I do think Jon was right about the way to do this, but he went about explaining it in the wrong way. That's not necessarily his fault, he simply didn't think about how to present his theory without it sounding condescending.

I think he said 'nuts' not through lack of respect, and although it sounds stupid, I think it was out of respect for justine, to make her feel better to think that he, Jon, thought she would win the vote, wheather he thought it or not.

I also think anyone would lose a bit of respect for themselves if they were being treated the way Jon has been in that house, no matter how strong a character they have.

If you are going off Jon, fair enough, Goodfella, no-one says you should support him, but it's your reasons that don't seem to hold much water. If Jon is not doing anything daft to hold your attention, then say so, don't say he doesn't have enough respect for himself, it's not a very good reason. I do enjoy your posts, but have to say your latest post about Jon makes no sense.

Jon may seem like he talks down to people, and maybe he does at times, but I see that more as lack of social skills, and the other HM's are doing Jon no favours, by blocking him rather than helping him and pointing things out. I feel some of the HM's could do with a few lessons in social skills themselves.

Have you ever thought Jon may have toned down his behaviour because of the treatment of him by said HM's. You can cut that atmosphere with a knife.

Like Jonny last year, who thought he would be everybody's friend but was nominated three times and Alex who was confident of his people skills but was an outcast after a week, Jon is realising that living in the BB house isn't such a pushover as he thought it would be. He thought he could flick switches in his brain to suit any eventuality but fuses are starting to blow.