This could get confusing people so bare with me !

For the last 3 years that BB has been running, i always get "THAT" feeling, you know that un-describle feeling that BB is here. This year however i haven't got that feeling yet, and that usually is a bad sign. Sometimes i am almost forcing myself to like this series, but i just can't.

Maybe its because of the lack of personalitys in that house, there is no one apart from Jon that i feel the need to care about or hate to a point of wanting to kill them, though maybe Federico fits that bill but i just think he is lost.

I feel a bit unease about the whole boy and girl divide in that house, it spoils the whole dynamic of the relationship of the sexes that the other series had. But then again i think that all the producers fault, they picked a whole bunch of cheesy geezers and a whole bunch of "it" girls and expect the dynamics to come pouring in. But stupid geezers and it girls will never mix and they'll always go off in little corners and do nothing or just bitch.

I mean i don't mind that there hasn't been any major arguments at all, i mean just take a look at BB2. It had only lets say about 3 major arguments, but all in all they all got on pretty well yet BB2 is still regarded as one of the bestest BB's so far. I know each series need to be different to be intresting, but this series is niether different nor intresting to me at least. It just feels like i have seen everything before if you know what i mean.

Whether drinks will spice the series up a bit i dont know. I think the problem is that i dont believe in the characters enough to find them intresting, apart from Jon. The relationships, friendships and the bitching are just too fake to even believe them? If that again makes any sense.

Again its week 3 now and maybe in the next two weeks things might start to be a little bit genuine, but i doudt it. Big Brother needs to show them that this is not no holiday camp. Insted of BB getting tough, i think BB needs to get real. I mean not even the lack of food is doing anything to them apart from the odd bitching there and the odd mouning over there.

Anyways nagging over i hope i have put my opinions across, and i hope you all understood my opinion and agree & disagree with it.

Nah, still feels like BB... It's just not as good as last years. So far.

Justine being evicted was a fine moment though.

Justine being evicted was a real "real" moment for the group.

But it still doesn't feel like BB has started, i have hardly watched any live coverage today or yesterday for that matter.

It should also be noted, that it's always been a little false... you can't expect anything else. This lot are taking longer to explode, but then if you look at past shows, it's usually happened when there's been a party, and the booze has been flowing. They've had no real parties, and not that much alcohol. That party room is far too small for anyone to get so pissed that they'd start an argument.

You've been posting negative stuff about this series since day 2... We all know it hasn't kicked off like last years yet, but then it wasn't until this time 2 years ago that Amma and Stuart had their massive bust up. It could still happen..

Perhaps whoever the morons who slagged off last years excellent show, should reveal themselves again so we can blame them for the producers trying to find "nicer people" this year.

I'll second that, sadly enough I cheered when Davina said her name.

But I reckon BB is becoming more interesting now they're separating into their own little groups. The bitching is going to come to a head at some point and for me one of the best bits is anticipating who is gonna blow first. But if all you want to see is arguments you better tune into Rikki, or Trisha to get your fix, I think this lot are still too painfully aware of how they will be perceived by the public to have a full-fledged barney right now (they'll probably contradict me now and have a huge gang war tomorrow )

you have got it spot on lala
Big brother (although very,very,very X100 unlikely) Need to shake them up a little with a few suprises, like an unexpected eviction, removal of several (preferably Gos and Sissy) housemates for rule breaking to stop them turning BB into a joke which many people believe it is turning into.

Someone said in an earlier thread its as if they are in butlins this year they can do and say what they like. What next Tania walking out the door tomorrow because she fancies a night out in the west end. I bet they still wouldn't give her a strike (if they are still going)

I know in the past it has been a little false. But not like BB4.

Everybody seems too be a little too false, they seem to show its all smiles but then when they walk away they keep their true feelings inside. Apart from the odd bitching here and there, they all seem to be letting alot of stuff in. Very strong people in there lol , by now i would of burst.

I agree to some extent, but I put this down to the BB producers who have interfered with BB4too much. For the first week we got wall to wall Jon on the Ch4 show and BBLB, and the live streaming on E4 jumps about too erratically, i.e., the HMs can be sitting around the pool, go to ad break, return to find them all back in the house. Plus, there are too many sound dips.

I'm find it is hotting up and maybe a very slow burner. I'm not holding out too much for it though.

To me it most definitely does feel like BB but that's only happened within the last week. If I did not like BB one year I wouldn't completely dismiss it, moreover I'd wait to see what they could offer the next year.

i kind of had your feeling lala......until saturdays pass the parcel,where i was jumping up and down and beaming from ear to ear .....i know very childish but its definately started for me

Maybe its a far too slower burner for the nation to get all "wow" all over it

It's always felt like BB to me. Whatever people say about the housemates, I think it's a much better mix than BB3.

Justine's eviction was a *classic* moment and BB4 already has a memorable figure in Jon.

The interactions are very absorbing. With a couple of exceptions, they seem to be "playing the game" and are much more camera-savvy than before. Personalities are emerging but they appeal as an ensemble rather than dominant personaities instantly taking over.

It's a slow burner definitely and you basically need to pay attention to get the most out of it.

We are talking about the British viewing nation here!

And we have little or no attention at all when it comes down to entertainment, its either there or not lol i'm afraid

That's their problem.

The issue of ratings doesn't bother me at all.

BB is one of C4's flagship programmes and they've placed a lot of faith and money into it. If BB4 doesn't work commercially, then they'll go back and retool the format for next year.

Let's hope the rollercoaster ride is just around the corner.

Its still in construction i think

lol

I would be one of those morons, & I think that this series still has promise. The housemates I all loved from day 1 until the first task then some of my opinions started to change. This is in contrast to series 3, where by & large my opinions remained constant throughout the series.

I agree about the parties, the housemates need to succeed at one of the tasks, hopefully the forth one as I don't see them getting number three right.

I think whoever came into the house will have been cowed by BB3, both the reception Adele got, & the media frenzy unleashed on Jade. noone will want ot be on the recieving end of either.

I think we just need to wait, the hunger will induce more stress, & when they finally do get to party hopefully sparks will fly.

Maybe its time to re-think the whole format of BB for next year.

BB needs to be new and exciting.........not going back to basics shite

I still maintain that BB3 was awful and I still think BB4 has promise. It's not as immediate as last year and the housemates are just playing their cards close to their chests.

You know that's what they'll do and they'll take us along for the ride.

Didn't they re-format this year saying that the rounded rooms etc would create a place of harmony for the prospective, subdued HMs. On the other hand though, the CH4 advert over the weekend was hinting at there being division in the group etc. All the negative things. Maybe BB doesn't know how to promote a runaway train..?

And Brookside never recovered from re-formatting.

Let's hope not to dig an early grave for BB. It's our show.

I agree with you lala - it is a VERY slow burner this year and a few people are still hanging on the "It'll get better" hope but basically the type of people they have chosen to be in the house are too smart and know how to play the game enough not to start the ol' Fireworks just cos of a secret room. Sissy was the only one who came close and she is the dumbest one in there. It seems to me BB have picked these type of people this year to purposely do a different kind of show but it isn't the type their audience actually wants.

I don't think it's enough to bring the show around to let these guys do what they want. Big Brother needs to do more dramatic twists, make the live task night more interesting and eventful and just be more exciting all round. Even Davina and Dermot don't look interested. They need 'shock and awe' in there, it's not gonna be any good if these slowburners keep burning slowly until week . They also need to get the public a lot more involved with the show - maybe a mini phone vote between the live task show and the midnight live show as to how the winners will be rewarded.

Overall though, yeah the characters just aren't strong enough to last 9 weeks - Steph, Gos, Ray and Justine are probably not strong enough for Big Brother at all. Tania, Jon and Fed are the only ones i think are really worthy, the others just about make the grade loosely.

GTG

I think it depends on what you watch it for, for me it's:

1.To make my first impressions and see if they were right

2.To spend hours mulling over people's behaviour and analysing what it was all about.

3. Deciding who i love and who i hate and getting these feelings ridiculously out of proportion considering i have never met these people.

4.Spending hours on this site reading people's views and again getting my own responses ridiculously out of proportion as i've never met any of you either.

5.It's staying up far later than normal just in case i miss that really exciting conversation (which never happens!)

6.It's spending a bloody fortune to make sure my chosen evictee is gone.

So for me this year is as good as all the others, different, but that stops it becoming tedious, but in the way it has become totally life consuming it definately feels like BB!!

Thats the problem

Sad to see that the ones who like the show are the minority in the British nation...........who all think its pretty wack.

Well thats the general feeling

Sorry, but I think all the "new and exciting" vibe is shite. BB1 was a novelty show, now BB is practically a TV institution. BB will never recapture the raw freshness of that first series and anyone expecting a "new, exciting" BB5 will probably be disappointed.

At least the producers have made the effort to make each BB series pretty distinctive in tone and outlook. I think you're forgetting that the vast majority of the content of each series was actually pretty dull when you really think about it. People have selective memories.

Well i disagree

The Divide last year was very new to us, probably just too new and even though the public didn't like it, it still drawed us into the programme out of curiosity.......hense the high ratings.

Thats why BB3 is the most controversal BB to date.

This year feels more like an old friend that came to visit that you do not want to see them again.

Its just like sooooo 2000