All the BBs were different in their own way.

BB1 - novelty
BB2 - Had its characters (Brian and Helen) and romance.
BB3 - The "divide", and arguments
BB4 - Boy/Girl divide

They always seems to be something new that separates the BBs from each other.

We might compare, but group dynamics seem to change with each series, and with that, the entertainment value changes as to the way people see the group changes.

yep! Well said.

The divide was there simply as part of the producers' plans to ensure tension and hardship. Frankly, it was crude, cruel and contrived. It was a gimmick not an innovation, and the ensuing conflicts and nastiness nearly saw the whole thing blowing up in the producers' faces.

The reward room has a much more subtle effect on the group dynamic, just like BB4 overall. If they are going to introduce new twists to the BB formula, I'd prefer them to come up with something with a little more sophisticated and imaginative.

I got that vibe/feeling right up until they showed the housemates...then I just thought - is that it

I haven't been able to watch the streaming for more than a few mins at a time

BB usually is the summer, it becomes the thing to talk about at the office or school whatever...but this year just isn't like that - I think most people think it is the big bore we all worry about every year but then are proved wrong by now!!!

Oh please who wants to watch a bunch of hippies running around saying i love you then have a little moun in the corner.

Fantastic TV that would make huh?

Actually Ive kinda not got the feeling yet either. Im kinda waiting for something to happen and then you think well 2 evictions have happened already.

I've had bursts of BB feeling when it's coming up to the task, or the nominations results etc. However, I do think I like this series better than lasts, fair enough, it's boring every1 sitting around being nicey nicey but so are constant arguements for me. I'd rather things simmer then really erupt rather than just suddenly come out of nowhere e.g. am i mingin? have i got a verucca?

I have the patience that something will happen, at the minute theres many things that could erupt, feds task failings, the food issue, the boy/girl divide but I think generally the public dont have the patience mainly due to BB itself, there was the Stuart/Penny thing in the first/second week of BB2 and the Lynne/PJ toilet incident, Sandy/Alex food moaning in week 1 (i think) of BB3.

Apparently a lot of key moments from Saturday night were not shown on the Channel 4 broadcast tonight!

I missed it because I was at the movies.
Is it possible that the BB production is just to slick this year?

Let me explain.

Their preparations may also include prepared scripts that anticipate each BBHM responses in certain situations to develop a plot or strand vital to the next task, eviction, etc.
If the programme is script driven, then a lot of the spontaneous stuff will need to be edited out.

The producers know what is in store for the BBHM over the next few weeks, we don't.

I wish we could get back the humour of BB2 which is still the best BB ever

Erm.... pardon??

For a start, the secret reward room is more visually pleasing than those tacky plastic bars running right across the BB3 house, particularly if it changes decor and theme each week.

Oh so that what makes something entertaining? Something thats easier on the eye?

Cough okay then.............

Anyways FA2 is starting soon , oh sorry i shouldn't mention that here lol

I hated the bars but at least they provided entertainment...all BB is doing so far is turning them into a bunch of tree huggers...its total crap

Well it helps. Basically, if you don't find BB4 entertaining you don't have to watch it but the fact you are still contributing to this forum means that you are still interested.

Sorry mate but BB has now become a summer habit that is hard to just brush of without feeling left out

I used to watch BB out of enjoyment

But now its out of habit, how sad

thats the usual shitty response...yawn yawn...

I'm just here in hope that I missed something interesting...

Yes if people want that then go back on a time machine to the 60's and groove on there

at least they had drugs in the 60's to make the tree hugging more interesting

True

The fact of the matter is that if BB4 doesn't appeal to people that's down to them. Personally, BB is always pretty samey, oddly familiar TV each year and BB4 is closer to the spirit of the original run than BB3.

It's not the fault of the producers or the housemates if it doesn't do it for some people. You have the choice. You can switch the TV off.

At the end of the day, that's what it boils down to.

The bars of BB3 made the show look ugly and artificial. Visuals do add to a TV programme. BB2 had the best designed house, IMO.

Oh my how arrogant!

I come here to talk and laugh with some of my close net friends!

Cause they are the best

Oh like i paid much attention to the decore in BB2

Please, the characters make the show not the house! This series has no strong characters and thats that, apart from Jon of course and loser Fed

Exactly Ben. I have to say that I wonder why some of the most vocal people against BB are still watching and posting here, when they really don't seem to like the show.

I'm enjoying it this year, more so than last year, and that's probably because of the mix of people in there. Last year was probably more instant entertainment, this year is more, dare I say it, intellectually interesting - you need to think a little about what you're watching - see them playing off against each other etc.

Of course, some people here have been negative about the show since day 1 - if you start off disliking something, and with it in your mind to dislike it, then how are you ever going to like it? Lala - how do you know that the majority of the British public dislike BB, especially if you're only seeing the views on here.

As has been said before there is something different about each series of BB, each has it's plus and negative points.

The visuals do make a difference to the observant.

The decor of each house does in its own way contribute to the feel of the show. The contestants react to their surroundings as much as each other.

Spot on, Cerberus. BB1 was stimulating in this respect. So is BB4. BB2 achieved a great balance in "instant entertainment" and stimulating interaction and is probably my favourite.

Of course the characters are important, but the decor of the house is also a factor. Last year it was a huge space, with not particularly 'friendly' decor.

What would be interesting to do, but also impossible at this point, would be to see what your responses were on first viewing of each house.

Quite simply because we are part of the show; without the viewing public it is nothing but an empty film cannister.

BB is now a part of the British summer, just like a kebab is the orderly thing to get after a night out!

As for it being more intellectually stimulating, that is total rubbish. The only intellectually stimulating part is the geekdom inhabited by Jon, the rest of them fade into total insignificance. As you can see from this forum Jon is very popular, also his saviour from eviction goes to prove that. So suggesting that people just don't get it is tripe.

If you want the views of teh public or the views of the BB team, look at dermot apologising constantly for the lack of content - the dire attempts to make up the lost revenue from lack of votes. The great British public have not warmed to these people.

I still continue to watch it and read this forum in spite of all of this, because I am hoping that it will change. I want the BB back that I know and love. I am quite prepared to sit and listen to some intellectual conversation - there isn't any thats the point! There is no in your face enetertainment there are no great debates. You haev a house of people who agree with each other and bond far too well to make it interesting.