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The Informant
11-09-2007
Originally Posted by Clarat:
“Didn't you hear him say shirt lifter then?”

I don't know where to start.

Lock him up then.

Read back your post for gods sake.
summerorange
11-09-2007
I don't know how anybody can bear to be around JD. I would have been sensitive to anything he said too. It is not so much the words people use but the intent of the words.
sallygill1961
11-09-2007
i support brian 100% no one has the right to make you feel like that and i think it was a deliberate effort on jims part even paul told barry jim systematically took brian apart because he was the most vocal personally i think paul was right not to interfere as brian held his own quite well he was just emotional which i get if im angry i think davidson knew then he didnt even have pauls support
tgandh
11-09-2007
Originally Posted by kittybelle:
“I thought that Brian acted disgustingly and was totally EMBARASSING!!! I don't agree with a lot of the stuff Jim says, well moreso HOW he says it But he was 200% right when he said about '...Brian always playing the Homophobic Card....' it's true! any situation he started up '...did you hear Jim say this or that?' Brian has done a great injustice to gay people everywhere! He acted like a TOTAL FREAK and I know a lot of gay people who say the same....ridiculous ”

Why are you using a girls name for your posting when you are obviously a "normal white heterosexual male" to use JD's term?
Rugby Rose
11-09-2007
Originally Posted by kittybelle:
“I thought that Brian acted disgustingly and was totally EMBARASSING!!! I don't agree with a lot of the stuff Jim says, well moreso HOW he says it But he was 200% right when he said about '...Brian always playing the Homophobic Card....' it's true! any situation he started up '...did you hear Jim say this or that?' Brian has done a great injustice to gay people everywhere! He acted like a TOTAL FREAK and I know a lot of gay people who say the same....ridiculous ”

Well, your post sums us perfectly the sort of person you are. Jim Davidson's daughter by any chance?
Clarat
11-09-2007
Originally Posted by The Informant:
“I don't know where to start.

Lock him up then.

Read back your post for gods sake.”

You are going to have to explain your point to me as I must be being thick.

You said he hadn't used homophobic language, I gave you an example of him using homophobic language, what is you point?
windstone
11-09-2007
Originally Posted by summerorange:
“I don't know how anybody can bear to be around JD. I would have been sensitive to anything he said too. It is not so much the words people use but the intent of the words.”



He is very nasty and I am sure if he could get away with it would have hit any woman who dared to cross him. To him women exist to obey men. Horrid dinosaur
Sylvia
11-09-2007
[quote=HelenG;17991746]I'm sure Brian was so upset through temper - I've been like that myself in the past. He was struggling to breathe properly never mind actually get his words out.QUOTE]
He was play-acting as he always does. Of course JD was wrong to say 'shirt-lifter' - that is a really offensive expression on par with the 'n' word I think, but he was playing into BD's hands by giving him an excuse to play for sympathy from the viewers and other contestants, and boy how he milks the situation!
Jilly
11-09-2007
[quote=Sylvia;17999605]
Originally Posted by HelenG:
“I'm sure Brian was so upset through temper - I've been like that myself in the past. He was struggling to breathe properly never mind actually get his words out.QUOTE]
He was play-acting as he always does. Of course JD was wrong to say 'shirt-lifter' - that is a really offensive expression on par with the 'n' word I think, but he was playing into BD's hands by giving him an excuse to play for sympathy from the viewers and other contestants, and boy how he milks the situation!”

I really don't think that was play acting.
Kenko2000
11-09-2007
[quote=Sylvia;17999605]
Originally Posted by HelenG:
“..
he was playing into BD's hands by giving him an excuse to play for sympathy from the viewers and other contestants, and boy how he milks the situation!
..”

I think there is a lot of truth in this..
I liked Brian at first, but his hysterionics grew old pretty fast..
When he was talking to the camera about how he was 'bewildered' that the public hadn't voted Jim voted out, after upsetting Brian, it was pretty obvious that he had been putting on a show, thinking he could manipulate enough suckers..
He probably still will.
FulhamRoadsw
11-09-2007
Have to be careful on what I say here but this whole topic in a nutshell Davidson V Dowling is exactly what is wrong with UK prime time TV today.Its has got to this state because one side of the coin is now too dominant & caters for its own side of the coin.
Now I must point out that I feel that both these two,messers Davidson & Dowling offer little to the whole world of TV entertainment,however playing them against each other is a typical tactic now that gets everyone moist who now produce TV shows.It may float their boat,however it does not float the boat of a whole lot of TV audience out there.
For example 'The Queen' drew in over 6m viewers,Hells Kitchen around 3 - 4m.Its about time the producers were culled that get all giddy about this cheap nasty nasty type TV thats rife in the UK today.Gives us Cracker,Morse,Minder, great TV thats worth watching & talking about instead of neandathol gossip camp rubbish.
In the meantime send Dowling back to being a Cabin Crew attendant & Davidson back to the front line to give the troops a chauckle,& let some tallent get back on prime time TV
euroboy
11-09-2007
What a charming thread So much intelligence there - really I'm totally underwhelmed.

I'm no BD fan as a rule but I was applauding him last night. How many of you who are slamming him were bullied in school? That's a whole lotta damage that most of us who went through it keep tucked away somewhere. Not a nice place to visit.

So imagine being in a situation as an adult where all those childhood insecurities and fears come flooding back to the fore due to someones behaviour and comments. No wonder Brian reacted the way he did.

And Jim's career is already dead and for good reason. Not only is he a homophobic narrow minded prat, he's also one of the most hated men in showbusiness. I know a LOT of people who have had the dubious honour of working with him and not one person had a word to say about him that didn't begin with C and end in T.

The mans toast as far as showbusiness is concerned.
Kenko2000
11-09-2007
Originally Posted by FulhamRoadsw:
“...Davidson & Dowling offer little to the whole world of TV entertainment,however playing them against each other is a typical tactic now that gets everyone moist who now produce TV shows.It may float their boat,however it does not float the boat of a whole lot of TV audience out there.”

Its happening with all reality TV shows..
The last Big Brother viewing figures were the worst ever also.
It seems like most normal people don't care anymore - everyone has caught on to how it's all fake drama edited to produce an acceptable winner.. All the vote rigging scandals don't help these type of shows either.
Jilly
11-09-2007
Originally Posted by FulhamRoadsw:
“Have to be careful on what I say here but this whole topic in a nutshell Davidson V Dowling is exactly what is wrong with UK prime time TV today.Its has got to this state because one side of the coin is now too dominant & caters for its own side of the coin.
Now I must point out that I feel that both these two,messers Davidson & Dowling offer little to the whole world of TV entertainment,however playing them against each other is a typical tactic now that gets everyone moist who now produce TV shows.It may float their boat,however it does not float the boat of a whole lot of TV audience out there.
For example 'The Queen' drew in over 6m viewers,Hells Kitchen around 3 - 4m.Its about time the producers were culled that get all giddy about this cheap nasty nasty type TV thats rife in the UK today.Gives us Cracker,Morse,Minder, great TV thats worth watching & talking about instead of neandathol gossip camp rubbish.
In the meantime send Dowling back to being a Cabin Crew attendant & Davidson back to the front line to give the troops a chauckle,& let some tallent get back on prime time TV”

No the mistake was putting Davidson in, if it had not have been Brian it would have been someone else because Davidson has to be obnoxious he thinks its his talent. Brian has not been cabin crew for 6 years so why should he go back to it.
Sylvia
11-09-2007
Originally Posted by FulhamRoadsw:
“...Give us Cracker,Morse,Minder, great TV thats worth watching & talking about instead of neandathol gossip camp rubbish.
In the meantime send Dowling back to being a Cabin Crew attendant & Davidson back to the front line to give the troops a chauckle,& let some tallent get back on prime time TV”

Great post. Dowling and Davidson are as bad as eachother. I'm getting sick of their nastiness - it's been spoiling the show for us and the other contestants.
Jilly
11-09-2007
Originally Posted by Sylvia:
“Great post. Dowling and Davidson are as bad as eachother. I'm getting sick of their nastiness - it's been spoiling the show for us and the other contestants.”

I missed the bit where Brian was nasty, what was it?
pjsteven
11-09-2007
Originally Posted by FulhamRoadsw:
“Have to be careful on what I say here but this whole topic in a nutshell Davidson V Dowling is exactly what is wrong with UK prime time TV today.Its has got to this state because one side of the coin is now too dominant & caters for its own side of the coin.
Now I must point out that I feel that both these two,messers Davidson & Dowling offer little to the whole world of TV entertainment,however playing them against each other is a typical tactic now that gets everyone moist who now produce TV shows.It may float their boat,however it does not float the boat of a whole lot of TV audience out there.
For example 'The Queen' drew in over 6m viewers,Hells Kitchen around 3 - 4m.Its about time the producers were culled that get all giddy about this cheap nasty nasty type TV thats rife in the UK today.Gives us Cracker,Morse,Minder, great TV thats worth watching & talking about instead of neandathol gossip camp rubbish.
In the meantime send Dowling back to being a Cabin Crew attendant & Davidson back to the front line to give the troops a chauckle,& let some tallent get back on prime time TV”

BD has been a reasonably successful TV presenter for about 6 years now - so the cabin crew statement is a farce
kittybelle
11-09-2007
Originally Posted by Rugby Rose:
“Well, your post sums us perfectly the sort of person you are. Jim Davidson's daughter by any chance?”

No, but someone with an opinion that perhaps doesn't mirror everyone elses but it's my opinion and that's all it is but when people like you start saying we can't express one if it doesn't conform or it's going to offend we're going down a dangerous route.

It seems some people agree, whether right or wrong does it matter? and as I said in my original post there is a lot about JD that I actually don't like and yes even find offensive and parts of his personal life (yes I am aquainted with a close relative of his) that I totally detest and would not defend on any score.

Yes, I'll agree his constant digs must have chipped away at Brian until he blew but it was totally OTT I agree with an earlier post - how much of it was an act???

If I've offended anyone by my opinions just remember that's all they are
SecretLifeoBees
11-09-2007
Jim was wrong with some of his comments true. The good as you comment reminded me of the "pretty intelligent girl (pig)" comment people used to say years ago. I'm not sure he was intending to be offensive.

Brian has gone down in my estimation after seeing how he seemed to crow because he'd managed to get rid of Jim. I was never much of a fan of his anyway but I hated seeing the smug gloating look on his face and the big ripping up the note gesture (what if some of the others wanted to read it ) At points it felt like Brian thought he was back in the Big Brother house again.
The Informant
11-09-2007
Brian has proved tonight what an arrogant smug tosser he really is.

Oh and I'd expect a lot of Brian fans because of the DS:BB connection here, but if you look at any threads on the topi c (not just the one posted above), most people are saying Brian is an annoying show off and totally false.

Poor old Jim.
Jilly
11-09-2007
I think the show tonight proved Jim was a damper on the show, they all came out of themselves and Marco recognised it too.
Sylvia
11-09-2007
Originally Posted by Jilly:
“I think the show tonight proved Jim was a damper on the show, they all came out of themselves and Marco recognised it too.”

True, but what's the betting that Brian will find some other 'issue' to draw attention to himself again? It's the Brian show, didn't you know.
Last edited by Sylvia : 11-09-2007 at 22:59
calais
11-09-2007
Brian proved how manipulative he had been in his conversations with Davidson by his obvious glee that he had forced Davidson's departure.
Even in his glee he was petulant.
I don't give a fcuk that he is gay, Brian is just a very, very nasty human being.
Send him back to obscurity.
Clarat
11-09-2007
Originally Posted by calais:
“Brian proved how manipulative he had been in his conversations with Davidson by his obvious glee that he had forced Davidson's departure.
Even in his glee he was petulant.
I don't give a fcuk that he is gay, Brian is just a very, very nasty human being.
Send him back to obscurity.”

of course he was happy, his bully had just left and he wasn't going to be tormented any longer, why wouldn't he be gleeful! Brian has never been able to hide his emotion, it is one of the reasons people connect with him.
The Informant
12-09-2007
Originally Posted by Clarat:
“of course he was happy, his bully had just left and he wasn't going to be tormented any longer, why wouldn't he be gleeful! Brian has never been able to hide his emotion, it is one of the reasons people connect with him.”

what rot. defend til the bitter end eh?

He was disgusting tonight. A horrible horrible person.
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