Apple to announce UK iPhone, Sept 18th

TheSoulBrother · 13-09-2007, 11:54

http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/ne...one-deal.phtml

http://www.macformat.co.uk/page/macf..._no_longer_the

Media event at the Apple Store on Regent Street on September 18th.

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russellelly · 13-09-2007, 14:12

Of course it's not confirmed that the announcement will be re iPhone, but I'm expecting it will be too. 16GB and/or 3G will make me seriously consider it, otherwise it's N73+iPod Touch for me.

Sananda Maitreya · 13-09-2007, 14:36

i think this comes very quickly after the announcement of the price drops in america which they said were for the holiday season. which makes me think we're going to get an EDGE phone (i also hear O2 have been adding EDGE recently). the american customers got so cheesed off about the quick price drop and they won't be happy if we get 3G before them. and apple knows this. so my guess is EDGE. which is rubbish.

supercool · 13-09-2007, 14:50

Without an unlimited data plan the whole EDGE vs 3G debate is a moot one. I'll be getting an iPhone regardless of whether its 3G or not.

Sananda Maitreya · 13-09-2007, 16:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by supercool

Without an unlimited data plan the whole EDGE vs 3G debate is a moot one. I'll be getting an iPhone regardless of whether its 3G or not.

i think i'll probably end up getting one either way.

13-09-2007, 16:57

I've been saying that I'll only get it if it has 3G, seems pointless otherwise as I don't have any wi-fi hotspots near me.

What is EDGE anyway?

russellelly · 13-09-2007, 17:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by sva

I've been saying that I'll only get it if it has 3G, seems pointless otherwise as I don't have any wi-fi hotspots near me.

What is EDGE anyway?

EDGE is a technology somewhere between GPRS and 3G for speed. It means you'll get the internet in almost any location, but at a lower speed than 3G.

And there's no way Apple wouldn't insist on an unlimited data plan. No way.

Mr Cable · 13-09-2007, 18:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by sva

What is EDGE anyway?

As russel said, it's like Happy Shopper 3G. It's an easy-ish way to offer faster-than-2G to the whole GSM network. In theory - at present - you could get up to 200-250k.

While this may be enough for some people, it is a big drop from the 1.8Mb, 2.8Mb, 3.6Mb & 7.2Mb speeds being offered on 'real' 3G. Not that that'll bother some people.

It would me, mind. No 3G, no point (IMHO).

13-09-2007, 18:22

Hmm, I don't think it would bother me as such as long as it's quickish I'm not that fussed.

Is EDGE supported by all networks then, or will it just be O2?

I don't fancy having to cancel my Vodafone contract just for the iphone.

Sananda Maitreya · 13-09-2007, 18:48

orange have EDGE.

supercool · 13-09-2007, 19:04

But its probably going to be O2 anyway (and it will likely be an exclusive deal similar to what AT&T have). So be prepared to change networks if you want an iPhone (why is this a big deal anyway? I've been on most networks and they are all mcuh of a muchness as far as I'm concerned).

intheknow · 13-09-2007, 19:25

O2 is the rumoured party !

BT@home · 13-09-2007, 20:03

Support for EDGE on Orange is targetted for non-3g areas, and is far from complete.

Redcoat · 13-09-2007, 20:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by BT@home

Support for EDGE on Orange is targetted for non-3g areas, and is far from complete.

Indeed, I only know of a couple of base stations in Northern Ireland which Orange have EDGE enabled.

tdenson · 14-09-2007, 10:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sananda Maitreya

i so my guess is EDGE. which is rubbish.

I have an iPhone running on Orange Edge and I am very happy with it. OK it's nothing like as fast as WiFi but when out and about it's heaps better than nothing. I was on a train yesterday and urgently need a map of Birmingham, was able to access it via Edge and Google maps, no real performance problem. Bottom line is I would much rather have the awesome iPhone user interface on a slow network than any other phone I have seen on a faster network.

Sananda Maitreya · 14-09-2007, 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdenson

I have an iPhone running on Orange Edge and I am very happy with it. OK it's nothing like as fast as WiFi but when out and about it's heaps better than nothing. I was on a train yesterday and urgently need a map of Birmingham, was able to access it via Edge and Google maps, no real performance problem. Bottom line is I would much rather have the awesome iPhone user interface on a slow network than any other phone I have seen on a faster network.

someone was saying above that the orange EDGE coverage isn't enormously extensive. how do you find it?

14-09-2007, 11:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sananda Maitreya

someone was saying above that the orange EDGE coverage isn't enormously extensive. how do you find it?

Its just random. I have a M3100, with has an icon that changes from G (GPRS) E (EDGE) 3G (3G) OR H (HSPDA 3G)

E is fairly rare, but does appear from time to time. Its not much better than GPRS though I find.

Btw, why does everyone want an iPhone? I'm not an apple basher... but it just looks annoying and hard to use.

You'll look cool for 5 mins, then it'll either get nicked, or will look dated very quickly.

Really missing something here guys...

Sananda Maitreya · 14-09-2007, 13:00

for me the reason i like iphone is the multitouch gestures and the way they work with internet browsing and coverflow. i also think it looks nice. plus i use macs so using it will be second nature to me.

14-09-2007, 13:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sananda Maitreya

for me the reason i like iphone is the multitouch gestures and the way they work with internet browsing and coverflow. i also think it looks nice. plus i use macs so using it will be second nature to me.

i understand that... but texting with me awful without the tactile feel of proper keys.

I do like some parts of the iPhone don't get me wrong... theres just a few key things that make it a none-starter.

Sananda Maitreya · 14-09-2007, 13:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Informant

i understand that... but texting with me awful without the tactile feel of proper keys.

I do like some parts of the iPhone don't get me wrong... theres just a few key things that make it a none-starter.

from the reading the mac forums, most people who thought they were going to miss proper keys have found that they like typing on iphone.

but as you say there things missing. i understand that they felt EDGE was the right decision for america but i don't understand why it hasn't got ichat or picture messaging (not that i've ever done that but i think its very popular).

TheUnholySinner · 14-09-2007, 13:48

I dont know how you people can afford all this EDGE or 3G.. my last bill was £70 (line rental only £35) and it was all on internet usage apparently. I had downloaded 8MB, 8MB!!! and got charged like over £30 for this and all i was doing was checking my emails and i think i downloaded the Transformers game demo and 2 wallpapers from it.

I soon deleted the connection settings out of my phone!!

14-09-2007, 14:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by supercool

Without an unlimited data plan the whole EDGE vs 3G debate is a moot one.

What a load of crap. Thats like saying we may as well stay with dialup since its all unlimited anyway.

The lack of 3G is possibly one of the worst decisions apple has ever made.

jammers · 14-09-2007, 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Informant

What a load of crap. Thats like saying we may as well stay with dialup since its all unlimited anyway.

The lack of 3G is possibly one of the worst decisions apple has ever made.

Not for the US market where they have sold a million in 74 days.

Would make more of a difference here but it depends on your usage. I think unlimited data will be more important.

I have 3G and it makes little difference to me.

Sananda Maitreya · 14-09-2007, 19:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by jammers

Not for the US market where they have sold a million in 74 days.

Would make more of a difference here but it depends on your usage. I think unlimited data will be more important.

I have 3G and it makes little difference to me.

are you going to get an iphone?

14-09-2007, 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by jammers

Not for the US market where they have sold a million in 74 days.

Would make more of a difference here but it depends on your usage. I think unlimited data will be more important.

I have 3G and it makes little difference to me.

sorry I simply cannot get my head around this?

You are seriously saying you can't tell a discernible difference between EDGE/GPRS and 3G?

I can only go on what I know here - I live in a bad area, and 3G is here some days and not others, but there is an absolutely massive difference in speeds between the two.

13-09-2007, 11:54	#1
TheSoulBrother Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,940	Apple to announce UK iPhone, Sept 18th http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/ne...one-deal.phtml http://www.macformat.co.uk/page/macf..._no_longer_the Media event at the Apple Store on Regent Street on September 18th. http://www.macformat.co.uk/resources...the%20word.png

13-09-2007, 14:12	#2
russellelly Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Scotland Posts: 10,720	Of course it's not confirmed that the announcement will be re iPhone, but I'm expecting it will be too. 16GB and/or 3G will make me seriously consider it, otherwise it's N73+iPod Touch for me.

13-09-2007, 14:36	#3
Sananda Maitreya Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,687	i think this comes very quickly after the announcement of the price drops in america which they said were for the holiday season. which makes me think we're going to get an EDGE phone (i also hear O2 have been adding EDGE recently). the american customers got so cheesed off about the quick price drop and they won't be happy if we get 3G before them. and apple knows this. so my guess is EDGE. which is rubbish.

13-09-2007, 14:50	#4
supercool Banned User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,110	Without an unlimited data plan the whole EDGE vs 3G debate is a moot one. I'll be getting an iPhone regardless of whether its 3G or not.

13-09-2007, 16:20	#5
Sananda Maitreya Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,687	Quote: Originally Posted by supercool Without an unlimited data plan the whole EDGE vs 3G debate is a moot one. I'll be getting an iPhone regardless of whether its 3G or not. i think i'll probably end up getting one either way.

13-09-2007, 16:57	#6
sva Posts: n/a	I've been saying that I'll only get it if it has 3G, seems pointless otherwise as I don't have any wi-fi hotspots near me. What is EDGE anyway?

13-09-2007, 17:46	#7
russellelly Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Scotland Posts: 10,720	Quote: Originally Posted by sva I've been saying that I'll only get it if it has 3G, seems pointless otherwise as I don't have any wi-fi hotspots near me. What is EDGE anyway? EDGE is a technology somewhere between GPRS and 3G for speed. It means you'll get the internet in almost any location, but at a lower speed than 3G. And there's no way Apple wouldn't insist on an unlimited data plan. No way.

13-09-2007, 18:07	#8
Mr Cable Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,868	Quote: Originally Posted by sva What is EDGE anyway? As russel said, it's like Happy Shopper 3G. It's an easy-ish way to offer faster-than-2G to the whole GSM network. In theory - at present - you could get up to 200-250k. While this may be enough for some people, it is a big drop from the 1.8Mb, 2.8Mb, 3.6Mb & 7.2Mb speeds being offered on 'real' 3G. Not that that'll bother some people. It would me, mind. No 3G, no point (IMHO).

13-09-2007, 18:22	#9
sva Posts: n/a	Hmm, I don't think it would bother me as such as long as it's quickish I'm not that fussed. Is EDGE supported by all networks then, or will it just be O2? I don't fancy having to cancel my Vodafone contract just for the iphone.

13-09-2007, 18:48	#10
Sananda Maitreya Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,687	orange have EDGE.

13-09-2007, 19:04	#11
supercool Banned User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,110	But its probably going to be O2 anyway (and it will likely be an exclusive deal similar to what AT&T have). So be prepared to change networks if you want an iPhone (why is this a big deal anyway? I've been on most networks and they are all mcuh of a muchness as far as I'm concerned).

13-09-2007, 19:25	#12
intheknow Banned User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bristol Posts: 4,837	O2 is the rumoured party !

13-09-2007, 20:03	#13
BT@home Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,911	Support for EDGE on Orange is targetted for non-3g areas, and is far from complete.

13-09-2007, 20:18	#14
Redcoat Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The wilds of West Tyrone Posts: 2,122	Quote: Originally Posted by BT@home Support for EDGE on Orange is targetted for non-3g areas, and is far from complete. Indeed, I only know of a couple of base stations in Northern Ireland which Orange have EDGE enabled.

14-09-2007, 10:22	#15
tdenson Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,214	Quote: Originally Posted by Sananda Maitreya i so my guess is EDGE. which is rubbish. I have an iPhone running on Orange Edge and I am very happy with it. OK it's nothing like as fast as WiFi but when out and about it's heaps better than nothing. I was on a train yesterday and urgently need a map of Birmingham, was able to access it via Edge and Google maps, no real performance problem. Bottom line is I would much rather have the awesome iPhone user interface on a slow network than any other phone I have seen on a faster network.

14-09-2007, 11:14	#16
Sananda Maitreya Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,687	Quote: Originally Posted by tdenson I have an iPhone running on Orange Edge and I am very happy with it. OK it's nothing like as fast as WiFi but when out and about it's heaps better than nothing. I was on a train yesterday and urgently need a map of Birmingham, was able to access it via Edge and Google maps, no real performance problem. Bottom line is I would much rather have the awesome iPhone user interface on a slow network than any other phone I have seen on a faster network. someone was saying above that the orange EDGE coverage isn't enormously extensive. how do you find it?

14-09-2007, 11:17	#17
The Informant Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by Sananda Maitreya someone was saying above that the orange EDGE coverage isn't enormously extensive. how do you find it? Its just random. I have a M3100, with has an icon that changes from G (GPRS) E (EDGE) 3G (3G) OR H (HSPDA 3G) E is fairly rare, but does appear from time to time. Its not much better than GPRS though I find. Btw, why does everyone want an iPhone? I'm not an apple basher... but it just looks annoying and hard to use. You'll look cool for 5 mins, then it'll either get nicked, or will look dated very quickly. Really missing something here guys...

14-09-2007, 13:00	#18
Sananda Maitreya Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,687	for me the reason i like iphone is the multitouch gestures and the way they work with internet browsing and coverflow. i also think it looks nice. plus i use macs so using it will be second nature to me.

14-09-2007, 13:17	#19
The Informant Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by Sananda Maitreya for me the reason i like iphone is the multitouch gestures and the way they work with internet browsing and coverflow. i also think it looks nice. plus i use macs so using it will be second nature to me. i understand that... but texting with me awful without the tactile feel of proper keys. I do like some parts of the iPhone don't get me wrong... theres just a few key things that make it a none-starter.

14-09-2007, 13:22	#20
Sananda Maitreya Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,687	Quote: Originally Posted by The Informant i understand that... but texting with me awful without the tactile feel of proper keys. I do like some parts of the iPhone don't get me wrong... theres just a few key things that make it a none-starter. from the reading the mac forums, most people who thought they were going to miss proper keys have found that they like typing on iphone. but as you say there things missing. i understand that they felt EDGE was the right decision for america but i don't understand why it hasn't got ichat or picture messaging (not that i've ever done that but i think its very popular).

14-09-2007, 13:48	#21
TheUnholySinner Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Newport, Wales ♂ Posts: 2,309	I dont know how you people can afford all this EDGE or 3G.. my last bill was £70 (line rental only £35) and it was all on internet usage apparently. I had downloaded 8MB, 8MB!!! and got charged like over £30 for this and all i was doing was checking my emails and i think i downloaded the Transformers game demo and 2 wallpapers from it. I soon deleted the connection settings out of my phone!!

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14-09-2007, 14:08	#22
The Informant Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by supercool Without an unlimited data plan the whole EDGE vs 3G debate is a moot one. What a load of crap. Thats like saying we may as well stay with dialup since its all unlimited anyway. The lack of 3G is possibly one of the worst decisions apple has ever made.

14-09-2007, 18:40	#23
jammers Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: London Posts: 4,223	Quote: Originally Posted by The Informant What a load of crap. Thats like saying we may as well stay with dialup since its all unlimited anyway. The lack of 3G is possibly one of the worst decisions apple has ever made. Not for the US market where they have sold a million in 74 days. Would make more of a difference here but it depends on your usage. I think unlimited data will be more important. I have 3G and it makes little difference to me.

14-09-2007, 19:15	#24
Sananda Maitreya Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,687	Quote: Originally Posted by jammers Not for the US market where they have sold a million in 74 days. Would make more of a difference here but it depends on your usage. I think unlimited data will be more important. I have 3G and it makes little difference to me. are you going to get an iphone?

14-09-2007, 20:48	#25
The Informant Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by jammers Not for the US market where they have sold a million in 74 days. Would make more of a difference here but it depends on your usage. I think unlimited data will be more important. I have 3G and it makes little difference to me. sorry I simply cannot get my head around this? You are seriously saying you can't tell a discernible difference between EDGE/GPRS and 3G? I can only go on what I know here - I live in a bad area, and 3G is here some days and not others, but there is an absolutely massive difference in speeds between the two.