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Apple to announce UK iPhone, Sept 18th
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neo6776
18-09-2007
Tbh i dont think this is gonna do well here at all.

No 3g or anything like that, no subsidy and on o2 of all networks lol

I think there will be an initial rush of apple fans buying this but above that i still doubt that the average joe blogs will buy this.

It got absolutely nothing to offer apart from the name Apple.

However i will wait and see.
vaughny,
18-09-2007
Where in London did Steve Job announce the launch date? Is there a video of it?
Mr Cable
18-09-2007
EDGE?!?!? And only 30% of the UK covered? It's even worse than I guessed....
sva
18-09-2007
Originally Posted by neo6776:
“Tbh i dont think this is gonna do well here at all.

No 3g or anything like that, no subsidy and on o2 of all networks lol

I think there will be an initial rush of apple fans buying this but above that i still doubt that the average joe blogs will buy this.

It got absolutely nothing to offer apart from the name Apple.

However i will wait and see.”

I think even the most die hard apple fans will be "umming and arring" over this one.

I know I am.
Sananda Maitreya
18-09-2007
Originally Posted by sva:
“I think even the most die hard apple fans will be "umming and arring" over this one.

I know I am.”

i am too. it's not the lack of 3G or subsidy; i was expecting that and am ok with it. it's the tariffs. £35 for 200 mins! i thought there would be preferential rates as there are with at&t. for less money they have 450 mins peak and 5000 off peak.
jperiam
18-09-2007
Originally Posted by sva:
“I think even the most die hard apple fans will be "umming and arring" over this one.

I know I am.”

I agree, i buy everything Apple but i can decide, what gets me more than anything else is the fact Steve Jobs admitted they're working on Rev 2 id be pretty pissed if i got an iPhone then come Jan/Feb they announce a 16GB version with 3G.

This makes the iPod Touch look very appealing to me.

Decisions Decisions
sva
18-09-2007
Originally Posted by jperiam:
“I agree, i buy everything Apple but i can decide, what gets me more than anything else is the fact Steve Jobs admitted they're working on Rev 2 id be pretty pissed if i got an iPhone then come Jan/Feb they announce a 16GB version with 3G.

This makes the iPod Touch look very appealing to me.

Decisions Decisions”

I've been tempted by the touch too, but I'd rather the convenience of having a phone and iPod in once device. I hate having to carry to much stuff around with me.
BT@home
18-09-2007
Get an iTouch and a small basic phone. The phone/sms/mms features of the basic phone are better than the iPhone versions.
OCTreeHill
18-09-2007
Does the iPhone have the YouTube and Starbucks application like the Touch?
jammers
18-09-2007
Originally Posted by OCTreeHill:
“Does the iPhone have the YouTube and Starbucks application like the Touch?”

Exactly the same as the US except Starbucks but judginh what Steve said then the Starbucks thing is not far away.
Oops_Carole
18-09-2007
Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce:
“Good lord, I have just noticed the iPhone tariffs.
£35 p/m gets you 200 mins and £200 text. On Orange the same £35 p/m would get you 500 mins and unlimited texts.

WHAT A RIP-OFF!”

yeah but you won't get an phone on orange will you
redTshirt
18-09-2007
Originally Posted by Oops_Coops:
“yeah but you won't get an phone on orange will you”

true but at £260 extra for the phone - it makes for an expensive deal
peripheral
18-09-2007
Originally Posted by redTshirt:
“true but at £260 extra for the phone - it makes for an expensive deal”

get a US one, unlock it (hackintosh) and get whatever contract you want.

neo6776
18-09-2007
Originally Posted by supercool:
“What about UK laws regarding your right to unlock a phone? Too many unanswered questions.”

I don't think there is any law in the UK about this tbh.

But if you buy an unsubsidised phone then its your property to do with as you please i would assume.
Striplight
18-09-2007
I think the cost of the actual unit at £269 (inc) is about right.

Its the crappy tarriffs that are putting me off.
supercool
19-09-2007
Originally Posted by Sananda Maitreya:
“i'd say for the revenue sharing. and as a minor point, getting visual voicemail to work.”

I'm starting to feel that Apple would have done better to forget the visual voicemail feature and make it open to all networks.
supercool
19-09-2007
Originally Posted by Striplight:
“I think the cost of the actual unit at £269 (inc) is about right.

Its the crappy tarriffs that are putting me off.”

Same here but I'm starting to think that I'm going to get one anyway.
Sananda Maitreya
19-09-2007
Originally Posted by supercool:
“I'm starting to feel that Apple would have done better to forget the visual voicemail feature and make it open to all networks.”

i agree. even with a higher priced phone that the £269 to account for the 10% of revenue they would lose out on from the operators. then let people do what they want with the phones.
BT@home
19-09-2007
Originally Posted by supercool:
“I'm starting to feel that Apple would have done better to forget the visual voicemail feature and make it open to all networks.”

Or maybe forget visual voicemail and implement some useful features like "cut and paste", sms forwarding, mms, bluetooth features etc etc.
davisa
19-09-2007
The tariffs are excellent. Here's a comparison I've just done with T-Mobile, and this only gets you the seriously deficient Nokia N95.

Flext 20 + web'n'walk (18 months) £22.50 p/m
£219.99 for Nokia N95
£6.99 The Cloud WiFi
£199 iPod Touch 8Gb

£949.81 over 18 months.

I'll take the iPhone thanks.
supercool
19-09-2007
Originally Posted by Sananda Maitreya:
“i agree. even with a higher priced phone that the £269 to account for the 10% of revenue they would lose out on from the operators. then let people do what they want with the phones.”

Personally, I would be happy to pay up to £350 for the phone IF I could choose my network and not be tied to a long contract. Then you could just use somebody like T-Mobile who do a decent unlimited data plan for about £7.50 a month.

Like I said, I'm probably going to get one anyway, only because I'm already on a contract anyway and its only £5 extra a month on what I'm paying now. I just think the 18 month contract + paying full price for the phone takes a piss a bit.

I'd imagine that Apple had little or no control over the pricing of the tariffs though - the AT&T plans in the US are far better value (even though AT&T are meant to be generally shit).
supercool
19-09-2007
Originally Posted by BT@home:
“Or maybe forget visual voicemail and implement some useful features like "cut and paste", sms forwarding, mms, bluetooth features etc etc.”

I can't remember the last time I used SMS forward or MMS. In fact I think I've used MMS a handful of times ever. Its a pointless feature - just email the image from your phone!

Besides, most of these things that can all be added in future software updates. First release software is never perfect, anywhere ever.
BT@home
19-09-2007
Originally Posted by supercool:
“I can't remember the last time I used SMS forward or MMS.”

Sure but many people use these features many times a day, a simple operation like having a friend send you a phone number is complicated in iPhone by the fact that you can't forward that to anyone else, and can't even cut and paste it into your own contacts.

The ability to update software is certainly a plus (but nothing the other manufacturers don;t already have) but I find it hard to believe that they decided to work on things like visual voicemail instead of things that are simply more useful. The simple fact that they have email does not negate the fact that its lacking in basic operations to send/receive files/pics over Bluetooth.
peripheral
19-09-2007
everyone is complaining about the tariff situation...at the risk of repeating myself, what's wrong with unlocking it?!

Times Article

Buy from the US to save more money...
BT@home
19-09-2007
probably because each sw update could lock it again, and then you will have to wait for another unlock solution to appear. Which may not appear as quickly as you might hope, in which case you could be without your phone for a while.

Of course you could decide to not install the upgrades, but then you would be missing out on the new features that everyone is talking about.
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