No one has info at the moment; when or if there's news, the best place to find it will be from the horse's mouth, so to speak, at www.toppy.org.uk/news.php
TF5810 - Not much for the extra 10
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remind me not to bother reading Topfield threads initiated by ianmoticon - he seems to be totally against Topfield - has he got Humax shares?
Nosing around the Western Digital web site to get the specs for the reported AV hard drive to be used in the 5810, I ound another page of DVR expanders from WD, http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=334. These are 500Gb e-sata external hard drives that plug into some US cable boxes. A quick google search suggests some Linux flavours can cope with e-sata. Imagine Topfield branded 500Gb external boxes.
Originally Posted by 1620martyr:
“Nosing around the Western Digital web site to get the specs for the reported AV hard drive to be used in the 5810, I ound another page of DVR expanders from WD, http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=334. These are 500Gb e-sata external hard drives that plug into some US cable boxes. A quick google search suggests some Linux flavours can cope with e-sata. Imagine Topfield branded 500Gb external boxes.”
“Nosing around the Western Digital web site to get the specs for the reported AV hard drive to be used in the 5810, I ound another page of DVR expanders from WD, http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=334. These are 500Gb e-sata external hard drives that plug into some US cable boxes. A quick google search suggests some Linux flavours can cope with e-sata. Imagine Topfield branded 500Gb external boxes.”
Who sen that too soon? To continue Imagine...plugging into the back of e-sata enabled 5810's.
I was considering the TF5810 but was disappointed to see that the user interface looks much the same as the old TF5800.
Even though there may be TAPs available for it, I think it's a disgrace that a PVR is launched with such a bad look to the interface in 2007. OK, so it does things differently, but the look is rubbish.
Even though there may be TAPs available for it, I think it's a disgrace that a PVR is launched with such a bad look to the interface in 2007. OK, so it does things differently, but the look is rubbish.
Originally Posted by charlesaitken:
“Even though there may be TAPs available for it, I think it's a disgrace that a PVR is launched with such a bad look to the interface in 2007.”
“Even though there may be TAPs available for it, I think it's a disgrace that a PVR is launched with such a bad look to the interface in 2007.”
A "form over function" type of guy? Maybe you should get an iPhone instead.
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“A "form over function" type of guy? Maybe you should get an iPhone instead.”
“A "form over function" type of guy? Maybe you should get an iPhone instead.
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Not at all. I don't mind the form usually. However, something that looks 15 years out-of-date is pushing it in anybody's books
Which UI do you think is better? I personally think the Toppy is better than the Humax, Pace, Pioneer and Panasonic boxes I own / have owned and better than Digifusion and Sky+ boxes I have played with in the shops and at friend's.
My only real bugbear with the Toppy native UI is getting access to the timer list and the way that list is displayed (no programme name and listed in order they are set rather than the order they are due to fire).
My only real bugbear with the Toppy native UI is getting access to the timer list and the way that list is displayed (no programme name and listed in order they are set rather than the order they are due to fire).
Originally Posted by charlesaitken:
“I was considering the TF5810 but was disappointed to see that the user interface looks much the same as the old TF5800.
Even though there may be TAPs available for it, I think it's a disgrace that a PVR is launched with such a bad look to the interface in 2007. OK, so it does things differently, but the look is rubbish.”
“I was considering the TF5810 but was disappointed to see that the user interface looks much the same as the old TF5800.
Even though there may be TAPs available for it, I think it's a disgrace that a PVR is launched with such a bad look to the interface in 2007. OK, so it does things differently, but the look is rubbish.”
Yes, the look is rubbish, which is why they're changing it. See the news article from October. Rumour has it that it'll be launched with a user interface more akin to the 7700 range (OSX Aqua style greys and blues). No readily available screenshots, but you can download the manual. BTW, where did you see screenshots of the user interface? Has Mr Motionsickness been up to his old tricks again?
The reason I'd be avoiding the 5810 for the time being is the potential for the Freeview Playback enhanced firmware to be buggy. Topfield have already quietly released a Freeview Playback firmware for the 5800, and then withdrawn it because it was so unreliable. Once it's proved reliable and the price dips below £250, I'll be considering it.
Originally Posted by charlesaitken:
“I was considering the TF5810 but was disappointed to see that the user interface looks much the same as the old TF5800.”
“I was considering the TF5810 but was disappointed to see that the user interface looks much the same as the old TF5800.”
A) You haven't seen the interface, so you're just making that up to troll for arguments.
B) If you actually read the news items about it, you'd know that it's having a new interface.
So, a brand new poster, making up rubbish about Topfield. Any particular reason why?
Originally Posted by simoncapewell:
“Yes, the look is rubbish, which is why they're changing it. See the news article from October. Rumour has it that it'll be launched with a user interface more akin to the 7700 range (OSX Aqua style greys and blues). No readily available screenshots, but you can download the manual. BTW, where did you see screenshots of the user interface? Has Mr Motionsickness been up to his old tricks again?
The reason I'd be avoiding the 5810 for the time being is the potential for the Freeview Playback enhanced firmware to be buggy. Topfield have already quietly released a Freeview Playback firmware for the 5800, and then withdrawn it because it was so unreliable. Once it's proved reliable and the price dips below £250, I'll be considering it.”
“Yes, the look is rubbish, which is why they're changing it. See the news article from October. Rumour has it that it'll be launched with a user interface more akin to the 7700 range (OSX Aqua style greys and blues). No readily available screenshots, but you can download the manual. BTW, where did you see screenshots of the user interface? Has Mr Motionsickness been up to his old tricks again?
The reason I'd be avoiding the 5810 for the time being is the potential for the Freeview Playback enhanced firmware to be buggy. Topfield have already quietly released a Freeview Playback firmware for the 5800, and then withdrawn it because it was so unreliable. Once it's proved reliable and the price dips below £250, I'll be considering it.”
OK, OK that's a fair point. I was looking at http://www.toppy.org.uk/static/fwfirstlook.shtml for the look of the interface. Although new items have been added, the look of it seems the same, in my opinion. If that's changing then all well and good.
Everything on that page says it's for the 5800, not the 5810. Changes to the 5800 interface are a tidying up of language. The 5810 gets a completely new GUI, as mentioned in one of the other news stories.
Aha! You must've searched for TF5810, which is mentioned in passing at the bottom, and been too horrified by the cyan screenshots to read the text
Originally Posted by simoncapewell:
“Aha! You must've searched for TF5810, which is mentioned in passing at the bottom, and been too horrified by the cyan screenshots to read the text”
“Aha! You must've searched for TF5810, which is mentioned in passing at the bottom, and been too horrified by the cyan screenshots to read the text
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Ah well -all's well that ends well
I don't think there's any difference on the analogue outputs, side by side (hardly surprising - the main board is pretty similar).
Personally, I think the HDMI from the 5810 has a slight edge over the component from the 5800 - sharper, brighter, a nice crisp look, especially on decent material like BBC stuff.
Of course, no amount of upscaling can really improve the soupy mess of some lower bitrate channels.
Personally, I think the HDMI from the 5810 has a slight edge over the component from the 5800 - sharper, brighter, a nice crisp look, especially on decent material like BBC stuff.
Of course, no amount of upscaling can really improve the soupy mess of some lower bitrate channels.
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