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Old 23-09-2007, 22:30
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Does anyine work for the archives of any of the main channels?

Imagine how much time you'd spend going through all the programmes you wanted to see again!

and where are the archives!!??
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Old 24-09-2007, 15:39
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The BBC's is in a little house somewhere (seriously!)
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Old 24-09-2007, 17:52
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The BBC's is in a little house somewhere (seriously!)
If you mean Windmill Road, Brentford, it's not a `little house`
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Old 24-09-2007, 22:38
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It's not the BBCs archives I'm worried about. The BBC will keep on running. Problem is the high-class productions from the ITV companies, who is going to look after them?

Talented stuff recorded in the 80s and 90s, and I'm not talking about the odd episode of The Professionals, but stuff from the smaller ITV companies, like Border for instance.
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Old 25-09-2007, 00:11
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I think they all keep hold of them, its just a case of where!

i'd love to see all the stuf that HASNT been shown, that must be kept on a separate shelf
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Old 25-09-2007, 00:16
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like Border for instance.
Well, Border is a part of ITV plc, so they'll have hold of their archives. Of course though, we could question what might happen to programming made by the smaller independents, especially if they go out of business.
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Old 25-09-2007, 06:20
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Do they have back-ups of the archives? For instance, if there's a fire or something?
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Old 25-09-2007, 07:53
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Would anyone care if the Border archive went up in flames? The destruction of the entire transmission output of Mr & Mrs wouldnt be much of a loss
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Old 25-09-2007, 20:54
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Well, Border is a part of ITV plc, so they'll have hold of their archives. Of course though, we could question what might happen to programming made by the smaller independents, especially if they go out of business.
I'll agree actually. But I can better that.... Ulster TV. Now what the hell did they but back into the ITV system? I remember being young and never having seen the Ulster ident on any programme, until TV-ARK came along of course.
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Old 25-09-2007, 21:11
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I'll agree actually. But I can better that.... Ulster TV. Now what the hell did they but back into the ITV system? I remember being young and never having seen the Ulster ident on any programme, until TV-ARK came along of course.
But with the big 5, the smaller companies hardly ever got a look in. Southern and Anglia, yes because they served the Home Counties and had some clout. TWW? Only when Harlech came along with the backing of Richard Burton and other acting names did the Harlech/HTV name get on screen. Scottish/Tyne Tees: a series or two per year at max. Grampian, Border, Channel, Westward - one programme a year at most. With the notable exception of Border's series of Mr and Mrs!! Ulster/UTV has always had a huge presence in the province, and even now, is the only "ITV" channel that opts out of the network at peak times.
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Old 27-09-2007, 20:36
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The itv/Granada and channel 4 archives are maintained by ITN Source, not sure if they are responsible for stv, Utv or channel
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Old 27-09-2007, 20:52
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The itv/Granada and channel 4 archives are maintained by ITN Source, not sure if they are responsible for stv, Utv or channel
The ITV plc archive is physically held by Yorkshire TV, somewhere in Leeds.
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Old 27-09-2007, 22:37
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Is there such a thing as the "Channel 4" archives? Seeing as all their programmes are made by independent producers rather than by themselves, wouldn't they be responsible for the archiving rather than Channel 4?
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Old 27-09-2007, 22:48
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The National Film & Television Archive in London stock archive footage of important programmes from all channels, and I think have all TV footage from BBC1, BBC2, ITV, C4 and C5 since the late-1990's. It is available to view for 'research purposes'. The fee was about 28 when I went in 1999, and I didn't even have to say which 'research purposes' it was for (there were none! Apart from my interest in TV and broadcasting).
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Old 27-09-2007, 22:50
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http://www.bfi.org.uk/nftva/access/
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Old 27-09-2007, 22:57
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The itv/Granada and channel 4 archives are maintained by ITN Source, not sure if they are responsible for stv, Utv or channel
ITN Source is only responsible for marketing the ITV archive.
The bulk of ITV's archive is in Leeds, though there is a small amount in London, and some older stuff is held by the BFI.

However a lot of old stuff was destroyed by the losing franchisees in 92.
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Old 28-09-2007, 00:11
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ITN Source is only responsible for marketing the ITV archive.
The bulk of ITV's archive is in Leeds, though there is a small amount in London, and some older stuff is held by the BFI.

However a lot of old stuff was destroyed by the losing franchisees in 92.
A bit simplistic and inaccurate

ITN Source only deal with clip sales, they sell library footage from many sources including Channel 4, Granada/ITV Plc and Fox News.

Granada International sell ITV PLC programmes to other broadcasters. This doesn't include programmes from non ITV PLC companies (STV, Channel, UTV), Rediffusion, Southern, TVS, TSW, Westward, TVAM, Thames. Although the local news archives of Southern/TVS were sold on to Meridian and therefore are now part of ITV Plc.

Southern's archive is owned by a company called Southern Star,

Thames is owned by Freemantle Media.

Rediffusion's archive is held at the National TV Archive, but is owned by a company called Archbuild (you have to go through them to use footage)

TVS's archive ended up in the ownership of Disney and is apparently stored in Maidstone, but in the changes of ownership most of the paperwork has gone, that twinned with the fact that it's part of a big company like DIsney means that it's mostly inaccesible

TSW and Westward's archive was transferred into a charity: the South West Film and Television Archive.

TV-am's archive is owned by Moving Image Ltd and stored in Maidstone


ATV is a bit complicated, Their local and educational programmes went over to Central, but their programme archive was owned by Polygram for a while, then Carlton bought that part of Polygram's archive which reunited everything still exsisting from ATV and therefore part of ITV PLC (this includes the ATV logo/name)

Carlton also purchased lots of films including the Rank film library - this means that Granada/ITV own all the Carry On Films

Some more about this sort of thing here
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Old 28-09-2007, 00:21
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Do they have back-ups of the archives? For instance, if there's a fire or something?
No archive would have a totally seperate back up of everything, there just wouldn't be the room or money to do so.

In many cases where the archive is live and being maintained and hasn't been down-sized or sold there will often be more than one copy of some material. These will either be 2 different tape formats or 2 diffrent versions of the same programme
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Old 28-09-2007, 10:20
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Who owns 1990/91 TV series "chimera"?

i'd love to see that again
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Old 28-09-2007, 10:29
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Who owns 1990/91 TV series "chimera"?

i'd love to see that again
That was made by Anglia, so it is owned by ITV plc, and stored in Leeds.
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Old 28-09-2007, 10:33
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A bit simplistic and inaccurate

Although the local news archives of Southern/TVS were sold on to Meridian and therefore are now part of ITV Plc.
In theory TVS' news archive was sold to Meridian - but only the bits which were still there when Meridian took over.

When they lost the franchise, TVS apparently stopped buying new tapes (understandable given the price of tape in the early 90s) and reused tapes from the news archive.

TVS's archive ended up in the ownership of Disney and is apparently stored in Maidstone, but in the changes of ownership most of the paperwork has gone, that twinned with the fact that it's part of a big company like DIsney means that it's mostly inaccesible
Last time I went to Maidstone Studios I found some of TVS' programme archive. It was mostly in a skip.
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