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Old 24-09-2007, 17:05
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Why Big Brother 9 is going to be a smash hit ratings success

There is one reason why BB8 failed in the ratings. It isn’t increased competition from satellite tv programming, or fatigue with the BB format. The reason it failed was Brian Belo.

Every production team on all reality tv shows have agendas. Post-the OFCOM row, and post-Shilpa, the appetite from the BB team for a politically correct non-white winner was a mouthwatering prospect if they could achieve it. Seven previous BB’s have been dominated by white male winners, and with fresh helmanship for the 8th instalment of BB, the desire to set number 8 apart from its 7 forerunners was huge. A black winner was always going to be gold dust in PR terms, and a huge achievement on Rebecca de Young's CV.

BB6 was supposed to be Makosi’s year. Its no accident that she got secret task after secret task. Her first week task was actually to get as many nominations as possible – the viewing public would then actually sympathise with her if she behaved like a total arsch in an attempt to stay in the house, or would like her if she didn’t behave like an arsch (and in that case she would have been up, but would have been very unlikely to have been evicted).

Science failed because he was too ghetto/rapper to appeal to middle England. Makosi failed because she was bonkers. Vanessa failed because she was attached to an intravenous sedative drip. Derek was evicted because more people disliked him than disliked Eugene. Kemal failed despite electorally significant support from the sizeable Turkish cross-dressing community. BB6 was set up for a non-white winner, but as the competition dropped like fireflies, a clash of the titans between Ant “can a plant do a donkey hop?” Hutton, and Eu-dit-da-da-da-dit-gene emerged for an, erm, mouthwatering dream (Elm Street style) finale.

The lesson had to be learnt – to get a black winner you had to have someone to appeal to middle England. Men are more likely to win than women, and Shilpa had been an Asian female winner, so the fantasy BB sticker set would look better with a black male winner in the champions enclosure than a black female. In amongst the thousands who queued up, you were looking for a young black male with coconut properties. Zimbabwean Makosi was from an alien culture to the electorate, we just didn’t understand what on earth was going on (“Who is the real Makosi?”). We never really found out. Another Russell Brand conquest who went on to alternate hotel bedrooms with Faria Alam’s hourly charges? Science and Victor’s ghetto/gangster aspersions both isolated them from mass appeal. For BB8 to get a black winner, someone was needed from within the UK. Textbook was an Essex boy whose ideal hangout is Lakeside instead of d.a. g.h.e.t.t.o.

Big Brother queues of auditionees are dominated by the great unwashed. Auditions held on weekdays when people who can hold a job cannot come are always going to be UB40 heavy. X-Factor you actually (in theory) need a skill to get far. Same with almost any other audition. BB aren’t looking for Shayne Ward’s or Leona’s, they’re looking for Shahbaz’s and biggest-tats-in-uddezfeeld-Lesluh’s. You can make £8m from BB with a big gob and a dislike of minging verrucas. Nearly all auditionees are white. Nearly all are useless, and have nothing distinctive to offer at all.

In amongst the thousands who queued, was there one young black male, with a heart of gold, youthful innocence? Its always ideal to be a bit dim to appeal to the public, who will take to the Helens and Jades far more readily with affection than the cerebrally superior. Even if he wasn’t actually thick, maybe he would realise, maybe he would be advised, to play it dumb. Are there chickens in chickpeas? Is East Angular abroad? Did Sherlock Holmes use Mr Heinztein as an escape goat? Do women poo? At least we found out that, yes, indeed, women do poo. And we also found out that Politics Is Showbusiness For Ugly People. (© Gore Vidal).

Gerry had a perplexed look with Brian on the live feed. “Everyone else was in hiding for two weeks, but you were hiding for four?”. It didn’t add up to Gerry. What was it about Brian that had seen him in hiding for twice the length of time of the others, what was his importance, his significance, what marked out the young black male Essex boy in the immediate post-Shilpa fallout era from the rest of his housemates?

Derek/Kemal/Makosi/Vanessa/Science were all squad players, like having Berbatov/Defoe/Bent/Robbie Keane/Barcham as your striking power. BB8 learned the lesson of BB6, don’t bother with a few good’uns, make sure you sign a Shearer as your strikeforce. Jason Wilcox, Stuart Ripley, Mike Newell weren’t in the class of any of Spuds current crop of forwards, but they had to support Shearer, and they won the league. Brian was the heavyweight – absolutely text book, you could not have asked for a much stronger black contestant to appeal sufficiently to Middle Britain. If Brian couldn’t win BB, honestly, who on earth could? If not Brian, I don’t think it could ever have been done (barring having 24 black housemates).

The paramount aim was a black winner. There was the assumption, wrongly, that ratings would take care of themselves. Amongst the thousands of dreamers, one turned up who cut the mustard, with none of the ghetto, none of the rapping, an Essex boy with a fetish for Hollyoaks. If his mum was proud of him, maybe we could all be too.

I’ve put up on two other posts on here that BB8 was like Basic Instinct 2. White males, preferably with a regional vote (ideally scouse or Geordie) will win most reality tv shows. Leona had chasmically more talent than the incredibly limited Ray Quinn, but it took a Herculean effort to get her over the line against a default white male scouse pretty boy. Constant gushing comments, “best reality tv performance ever”, huge help with the draws towards the end of the shows, helpful vt’s, damaging comments given to her rivals (in particular nikitta), the help for Leona was in a similar vein to the transparent BBLB rabid support for Brian. Sharon Stone was an international sex siren for Basic Instinct, 16 years later she was a post-menopausal prune. Without Michael Douglas, Stone was the star of the show, the whole film was the Sharon Stone project. A once stunning 32 year old will look very plain at 48 against even modest-looking present day 32 year-olds. The solution was to pack the cast with a mix of even more ancient women (Charlotte Rampling) or unattractive women, and a male lead more Jimmy Nail than James Dean (David Morrissey).

Brian was the reason why so many electorally unfriendly housemates were chosen. Its incredibly difficult for a non-white contestant to have mass appeal, but not only do they have to have mass appeal, you CANNOT put them in with a Ray Quinn (young default scouser), a Steve Brookstein (mass housewife appeal, struggling for a better life for himself and his girlfriend), a Matt Willis, a Phil Tufnell, a Joe Pasquale, a Mark Owen, a Jack Dee. Anyone Caucasian heterosexual and male will appeal to the housewives, the grannies, the voting electorate. You can’t even have a Brian Dowling – every box ticked bar the heterosexual one, so you have to put in a limp Gerry as BB8’s pink housemate.

Every housemate was picked with Brian in mind. The Carole’s, Tracey’s, Laura’s, Nicky’s, Billi’s, none of them were ever going to have mass appeal. Even Charley was handled with sensitivity, saved from eviction despite receiving enough nominations to be up through “punishment” for discussing nominations. Each week she magically escaped somehow, to disbelief, even when she had enough nominations to be up, and when she couldn’t avoid being nominated, the “fake” eviction took place. There was only one line she could cross, one line where she would become surplus to requirements, and that line was if she ever kicked off with Brian. Supporting Emily over the ****** incident, then provoking Brian on the night she was dressed as a clown, she crossed the line, and was up and out at the next time of asking.

The dream for BB8 was the first ever black winner, complemented by the big big big sizzling summer showmance. Step forward Brian, then Chanelle, then Elimidate’s finest Zach Lig-man. Then sprinkle in a supporting cast without any other potential winners. The white male heterosexual contestants restricted to just 2 out of a cast of 24, with both Liam and Ziggy brutalised in the edit. Every negative thing Liam said was shown, his focussed, concise dignified destruction of Charley, on a par with anything Craig threw at Nasty Nick, received a few seconds of cursory footage in the highlights. Ziggy – “every year they make someone out to look like a d***, and this year its me”. Yep. For Brian to win, you could not put in any potential winners to rival him. In the end his closest challenge came from the non-descript pairing of the twins, who did almost nothing in the entire time in the house. If Brian had been caucasian, and the twins afro-caribbean, would it have been such a close battle in the final week? You might think that, I could not possibly comment.

There is a reason why Sky Sports News has presenters like Georgie Thompson, Alex Quinn, Millie Clode, Vicky Gomarsall, et al. Yes it’s the news in the erm sports world, but if you put BB8 Tracey as the main presenter, half the viewers would switch off.

Big Brother is a massive franchise. But you cannot avoid the golden rules. A show with a cast who looked like Georgie, Alex, Millie, Vicky et al will be infinitely more attractive to viewers than a show with Tracey, Carole, Shanessa and Kara-Louise. The BB production team forgot to give the public what they want, and a lot of what the public want is extremely good-looking people. If BB’s 1 to 7 had never happened, the importance of a black winner to complement the set would never have been anything like as weighty. Instead of being petrified of putting in a group of watchable, good-looking 20somethings, who might actually prove to be popular (and give you a repeat of BB3’s Kate v Jonny v Alex v Jade in the BB8 final), only Liam and Ziggy made it through, and both received lacerating edits.

The monkey is off BB’s back now. It has been done. Project Brian reached fruition, in a final fortnight whimper, voted on by the 2.8 million viewers left. Brian is a fantastic guy, but he was never short of grey matter, and was a credit to himself and the show. The problem was never Brian, it was the other 23 around him, selected to nurture him. That was the reason BB8 flopped. BB doesn’t live in its own bubble, if Bravo or VH1 launched a reality tv series starring Carole, Jonty, Tracey and Kara-Louise, would they have got any viewers at all? No.

In the tea leaves, BB isn’t dead, its slumbering. The production was often slick this year, but its totally wasted giving a silk purse of high production levels to the sow’s ear of housemates. We just didn’t care how Tracey or Carole reacted.

The key to BB9 getting back the 5.5 million viewers, which I think it can (and will) do, is to decide to forget every single previous series of BB. Pack it full of potential winners, people we care about. Make BBLB a level playing field, we don’t really want a “here’s a funny clip of Brian” section each show. Handle housemates with sensitivity, we can see past the one dimensional characters presented to us. That should have been obvious with Aisleyne’s popularity, which wildly outstripped the brutal edits she received, reminiscent of Bez’s invisibility in the second half of CBB, before winning anyway. Don’t decide to make Basic Instinct 2, make Basic Instinct. If we get another default white male heterosexual scouse or Geordie winner, sure its not ideal, but the chances are that 5.5 million people will have tuned in, not 2.8 million. No more Tracey’s, Jonty’s, Kara-Louise’s, Carole’s, BB fans would not tune into VH1 to watch these damp squib housemates, and viewing figures halved because they didn’t really want to watch them in BB either.

The ingredients are still all there, and I think BB9 will be a massive success, because I think they will realise that nurturing Brian was the reason why BB8 failed. Handpicking the winner cost millions of viewers, because other attractive housemates were deliberately edited out of the line-up to focus the show on to Brian. If they drop the editorial bias, and pick loads of attractive 24 to 26 year old hm’s, the public will watch. It’s the key, it always has been the key.

Good luck.


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Old 24-09-2007, 17:45
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There are a couple of holes in your argument as I see it:

- They DID put in a white male with a regional vote: Liam. If Liam had really stepped up, or got involved in a romance, Brian would have been out-alpha-ed and would have faced a serious challenge from Liam
- Why did the producers join the Twins as one housemate, a move that propelled them to favourites to win the show?

Brian was far from the chosen one a la Nadia/Pete: it was an upset when he won and he did that simply because he was the best housemate. I do agree though that the choice of HMs was the reason BB8 failed, and that CBB5 is probably to blame. Endemol, in their own words, played safe. I too am looking for a return to form with BB9, where the pressure will be more on ratings and less from Ofcom.
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Old 24-09-2007, 17:47
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Wait WTF has BB8 failing got to do with Brian, it's the lazy/ill-planned producers! It was getting boring even before Billi, Brian, Jonathan and Liam came.
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Old 24-09-2007, 17:55
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chris_sw,

I've said they conceded the absolute bare minimum of two defaults, with Liam having the regional vote as well. Liam was given appalling edits, every nasty thing he said was shown, whilst his big positive - standing up to charley - wasn't.

Brian wasn't an alpha-male at any stage. He got on with everyone and fitted in, rather than led.

I think they assumed that Brian was going to romp to an unassailable victory - he was a shorter priced favourite than Pete, and the entire Elstree audience were shouting "Bri-an, Bri-an, Bri-an" into the house on the friday before they joined the twins.

They had to do something with the twins, and combining them meant that you wouldn't have identical Davina interviews, causing viewers to switch off the 2nd one, plus bring a contender into the frame to seemingly challenge Brian. I think they underestimated how weak the support was for Brian, and if they had known it would have seen the twins look like they were going to win, I don't think they would ever have done it. I think it was a miscalculation, same as having Shanessa win the box task that saw her gain housemate status and seemingly put Liam up for eviction with Amy, Ziggy and Jonty.

Brian was the most chosen one of all time. I don't think Nadia was ever a chosen one, her popularity took everyone by surprise. I think its ridiculous to think that a Portuguese transexual was in any way a predictable winner.

I think in order of being "chosen ones", Brian tops the list, with honourable mentions to Makosi, Shilpa, and Brigitte Nielsen. They paid big money for Shilpa and Brigitte and both were hoped to be nurtured towards starring roles if not the actual winners line.
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Old 24-09-2007, 18:29
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What utter nonsense to blame Brian for the failure of bb8.
It was total pants even before he went into the house, and was doomed to fail from the moment some brain donor decided on an all female opening night.

BB didn't help bb8, just as it didn't help bb7, but bb7 had strong enough characters to get very good viewing figures, where as BB8 had the laziest, whingiest, most tedious bunch of hm's in the 8 years of bb. It never stood a chance! With or without Brian.
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Old 24-09-2007, 18:37
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What utter nonsense to blame Brian for the failure of bb8.
It was total pants even before he went into the house, and was doomed to fail from the moment some brain donor decided on an all female opening night.

BB didn't help bb8, just as it didn't help bb7, but bb7 had strong enough characters to get very good viewing figures, where as BB8 had the laziest, whingiest, most tedious bunch of hm's in the 8 years of bb. It never stood a chance! With or without Brian.
you need to read the post before you shout something down as nonsense. you are saying it was "pants" before he went in, which agrees with the points I have made.

" where as BB8 had the laziest, whingiest, most tedious bunch of hm's in the 8 years of bb."


exactly! that agrees with my post, not contradicts it.
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Old 24-09-2007, 18:40
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I disagree with almost everything except BB9. You're making it look like that BB deliberately got tedious white people, when thats simply not the case. The reason why people voted for Brian was because of entertainment value. He made me laugh, and brightened up a tedious series.
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Old 24-09-2007, 18:45
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I have and I disagree with almost everything except BB9. You're making it look like that BB deliberately got tedious white people, when thats simply not the case. The reason why people voted for Brian was because of entertainment value. He made me laugh, and brightened up a tedious series.
i really need to keep posts to simple short sentences, people aren't taking the care to read the original post before replying to it.

brian would probably have lost bb8 if he had been up against 15 to 20 of the most popular hm's from previous series.

you describe the series as tedious, but you say its not the case that the white people that bb put in the house were tedious. if they were interesting then, why was the series in your words tedious?
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Old 24-09-2007, 18:49
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you describe the series as tedious, but you say its not the case that the white people that bb put in the house were tedious. if they were interesting then, why was the series in your words tedious?
Tedious = Boring

Simple As

Thats the impression you gave to me in your OP.
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Old 24-09-2007, 18:51
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Wait WTF has BB8 failing got to do with Brian, it's the lazy/ill-planned producers! It was getting boring even before Billi, Brian, Jonathan and Liam came.
exactly.

it was getting 'boring' because the group that were already in there weren't very watchable. i think the reason they weren't watchable was because any strong candidates to win were omitted from the line-up to leave the way clear for brian to win.

to put it another way, if brian hadn't auditioned, and there had been no likeable young afro-caribbean lads auditioning, i think getting a non-white winner would have been impossible, so they would have put in some strong caucasian candidates instead. therefore, the first week would have been much more watchable with people in there we liked to watch, of either gender.
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Old 24-09-2007, 18:53
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you need to read the post before you shout something down as nonsense. you are saying it was "pants" before he went in, which agrees with the points I have made.
Sorry, sunset, i plead guilty to not reading the entire post before replying. Only online for a few mins this evening so i didn't bother reading the entire post.
I'll take a proper look next time and give a more considered reply.

Agree that bb9 is sure to comeback with a bang next year.
For some reason, i always love the odd number bb's and hate the even ones.
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Old 24-09-2007, 18:57
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Sorry, sunset, i plead guilty to not reading the entire post before replying. Only online for a few mins this evening so i didn't bother reading the entire post..
grrrrr, i'll get you next time gadget

i can sum up the op in a short version.

brian was a wicked potential hm. a black winner would have been wicked for endemol after all the shilpa stuff. they really wanted him to win, so they put in loads of housemates that were very unlikely to win, and left out the kate's/alex's/jonny's/helen's etcetera. this is not a good idea if you want to get ratings, hence ratings dived to 2.8m. they got the winner they wanted, but paid too heavy a price. they took the viewing figures for granted. brian was a great housemate, but in a determination to help him to win, they deliberately put in a very mediocre set of 23 rivals. so he won, but the series wasn't good. and he was a great housemate, but because he was in the mix, it was his fault in trying so hard to help him win that so many other poor hm's were chosen.

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Old 01-10-2007, 15:41
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Why Big Brother 9 is going to be a smash hit ratings success

There is one reason why BB8 failed in the ratings. It isn’t increased competition from satellite tv programming, or fatigue with the BB format. The reason it failed was Brian Belo.

Every production team on all reality tv shows have agendas. Post-the OFCOM row, and post-Shilpa, the appetite from the BB team for a politically correct non-white winner was a mouthwatering prospect if they could achieve it. Seven previous BB’s have been dominated by white male winners, and with fresh helmanship for the 8th instalment of BB, the desire to set number 8 apart from its 7 forerunners was huge. A black winner was always going to be gold dust in PR terms, and a huge achievement on Rebecca de Young's CV.

BB6 was supposed to be Makosi’s year. Its no accident that she got secret task after secret task. Her first week task was actually to get as many nominations as possible – the viewing public would then actually sympathise with her if she behaved like a total arsch in an attempt to stay in the house, or would like her if she didn’t behave like an arsch (and in that case she would have been up, but would have been very unlikely to have been evicted).

Science failed because he was too ghetto/rapper to appeal to middle England. Makosi failed because she was bonkers. Vanessa failed because she was attached to an intravenous sedative drip. Derek was evicted because more people disliked him than disliked Eugene. Kemal failed despite electorally significant support from the sizeable Turkish cross-dressing community. BB6 was set up for a non-white winner, but as the competition dropped like fireflies, a clash of the titans between Ant “can a plant do a donkey hop?” Hutton, and Eu-dit-da-da-da-dit-gene emerged for an, erm, mouthwatering dream (Elm Street style) finale.

The lesson had to be learnt – to get a black winner you had to have someone to appeal to middle England. Men are more likely to win than women, and Shilpa had been an Asian female winner, so the fantasy BB sticker set would look better with a black male winner in the champions enclosure than a black female. In amongst the thousands who queued up, you were looking for a young black male with coconut properties. Zimbabwean Makosi was from an alien culture to the electorate, we just didn’t understand what on earth was going on (“Who is the real Makosi?”). We never really found out. Another Russell Brand conquest who went on to alternate hotel bedrooms with Faria Alam’s hourly charges? Science and Victor’s ghetto/gangster aspersions both isolated them from mass appeal. For BB8 to get a black winner, someone was needed from within the UK. Textbook was an Essex boy whose ideal hangout is Lakeside instead of d.a. g.h.e.t.t.o.

Big Brother queues of auditionees are dominated by the great unwashed. Auditions held on weekdays when people who can hold a job cannot come are always going to be UB40 heavy. X-Factor you actually (in theory) need a skill to get far. Same with almost any other audition. BB aren’t looking for Shayne Ward’s or Leona’s, they’re looking for Shahbaz’s and biggest-tats-in-uddezfeeld-Lesluh’s. You can make £8m from BB with a big gob and a dislike of minging verrucas. Nearly all auditionees are white. Nearly all are useless, and have nothing distinctive to offer at all.

In amongst the thousands who queued, was there one young black male, with a heart of gold, youthful innocence? Its always ideal to be a bit dim to appeal to the public, who will take to the Helens and Jades far more readily with affection than the cerebrally superior. Even if he wasn’t actually thick, maybe he would realise, maybe he would be advised, to play it dumb. Are there chickens in chickpeas? Is East Angular abroad? Did Sherlock Holmes use Mr Heinztein as an escape goat? Do women poo? At least we found out that, yes, indeed, women do poo. And we also found out that Politics Is Showbusiness For Ugly People. (© Gore Vidal).

Gerry had a perplexed look with Brian on the live feed. “Everyone else was in hiding for two weeks, but you were hiding for four?”. It didn’t add up to Gerry. What was it about Brian that had seen him in hiding for twice the length of time of the others, what was his importance, his significance, what marked out the young black male Essex boy in the immediate post-Shilpa fallout era from the rest of his housemates?

Derek/Kemal/Makosi/Vanessa/Science were all squad players, like having Berbatov/Defoe/Bent/Robbie Keane/Barcham as your striking power. BB8 learned the lesson of BB6, don’t bother with a few good’uns, make sure you sign a Shearer as your strikeforce. Jason Wilcox, Stuart Ripley, Mike Newell weren’t in the class of any of Spuds current crop of forwards, but they had to support Shearer, and they won the league. Brian was the heavyweight – absolutely text book, you could not have asked for a much stronger black contestant to appeal sufficiently to Middle Britain. If Brian couldn’t win BB, honestly, who on earth could? If not Brian, I don’t think it could ever have been done (barring having 24 black housemates).

The paramount aim was a black winner. There was the assumption, wrongly, that ratings would take care of themselves. Amongst the thousands of dreamers, one turned up who cut the mustard, with none of the ghetto, none of the rapping, an Essex boy with a fetish for Hollyoaks. If his mum was proud of him, maybe we could all be too.

I’ve put up on two other posts on here that BB8 was like Basic Instinct 2. White males, preferably with a regional vote (ideally scouse or Geordie) will win most reality tv shows. Leona had chasmically more talent than the incredibly limited Ray Quinn, but it took a Herculean effort to get her over the line against a default white male scouse pretty boy. Constant gushing comments, “best reality tv performance ever”, huge help with the draws towards the end of the shows, helpful vt’s, damaging comments given to her rivals (in particular nikitta), the help for Leona was in a similar vein to the transparent BBLB rabid support for Brian. Sharon Stone was an international sex siren for Basic Instinct, 16 years later she was a post-menopausal prune. Without Michael Douglas, Stone was the star of the show, the whole film was the Sharon Stone project. A once stunning 32 year old will look very plain at 48 against even modest-looking present day 32 year-olds. The solution was to pack the cast with a mix of even more ancient women (Charlotte Rampling) or unattractive women, and a male lead more Jimmy Nail than James Dean (David Morrissey).

Brian was the reason why so many electorally unfriendly housemates were chosen. Its incredibly difficult for a non-white contestant to have mass appeal, but not only do they have to have mass appeal, you CANNOT put them in with a Ray Quinn (young default scouser), a Steve Brookstein (mass housewife appeal, struggling for a better life for himself and his girlfriend), a Matt Willis, a Phil Tufnell, a Joe Pasquale, a Mark Owen, a Jack Dee. Anyone Caucasian heterosexual and male will appeal to the housewives, the grannies, the voting electorate. You can’t even have a Brian Dowling – every box ticked bar the heterosexual one, so you have to put in a limp Gerry as BB8’s pink housemate.

Every housemate was picked with Brian in mind. The Carole’s, Tracey’s, Laura’s, Nicky’s, Billi’s, none of them were ever going to have mass appeal. Even Charley was handled with sensitivity, saved from eviction despite receiving enough nominations to be up through “punishment” for discussing nominations. Each week she magically escaped somehow, to disbelief, even when she had enough nominations to be up, and when she couldn’t avoid being nominated, the “fake” eviction took place. There was only one line she could cross, one line where she would become surplus to requirements, and that line was if she ever kicked off with Brian. Supporting Emily over the ****** incident, then provoking Brian on the night she was dressed as a clown, she crossed the line, and was up and out at the next time of asking.

The dream for BB8 was the first ever black winner, complemented by the big big big sizzling summer showmance. Step forward Brian, then Chanelle, then Elimidate’s finest Zach Lig-man. Then sprinkle in a supporting cast without any other potential winners. The white male heterosexual contestants restricted to just 2 out of a cast of 24, with both Liam and Ziggy brutalised in the edit. Every negative thing Liam said was shown, his focussed, concise dignified destruction of Charley, on a par with anything Craig threw at Nasty Nick, received a few seconds of cursory footage in the highlights. Ziggy – “every year they make someone out to look like a d***, and this year its me”. Yep. For Brian to win, you could not put in any potential winners to rival him. In the end his closest challenge came from the non-descript pairing of the twins, who did almost nothing in the entire time in the house. If Brian had been caucasian, and the twins afro-caribbean, would it have been such a close battle in the final week? You might think that, I could not possibly comment.

There is a reason why Sky Sports News has presenters like Georgie Thompson, Alex Quinn, Millie Clode, Vicky Gomarsall, et al. Yes it’s the news in the erm sports world, but if you put BB8 Tracey as the main presenter, half the viewers would switch off.

Big Brother is a massive franchise. But you cannot avoid the golden rules. A show with a cast who looked like Georgie, Alex, Millie, Vicky et al will be infinitely more attractive to viewers than a show with Tracey, Carole, Shanessa and Kara-Louise. The BB production team forgot to give the public what they want, and a lot of what the public want is extremely good-looking people. If BB’s 1 to 7 had never happened, the importance of a black winner to complement the set would never have been anything like as weighty. Instead of being petrified of putting in a group of watchable, good-looking 20somethings, who might actually prove to be popular (and give you a repeat of BB3’s Kate v Jonny v Alex v Jade in the BB8 final), only Liam and Ziggy made it through, and both received lacerating edits.

The monkey is off BB’s back now. It has been done. Project Brian reached fruition, in a final fortnight whimper, voted on by the 2.8 million viewers left. Brian is a fantastic guy, but he was never short of grey matter, and was a credit to himself and the show. The problem was never Brian, it was the other 23 around him, selected to nurture him. That was the reason BB8 flopped. BB doesn’t live in its own bubble, if Bravo or VH1 launched a reality tv series starring Carole, Jonty, Tracey and Kara-Louise, would they have got any viewers at all? No.

In the tea leaves, BB isn’t dead, its slumbering. The production was often slick this year, but its totally wasted giving a silk purse of high production levels to the sow’s ear of housemates. We just didn’t care how Tracey or Carole reacted.

The key to BB9 getting back the 5.5 million viewers, which I think it can (and will) do, is to decide to forget every single previous series of BB. Pack it full of potential winners, people we care about. Make BBLB a level playing field, we don’t really want a “here’s a funny clip of Brian” section each show. Handle housemates with sensitivity, we can see past the one dimensional characters presented to us. That should have been obvious with Aisleyne’s popularity, which wildly outstripped the brutal edits she received, reminiscent of Bez’s invisibility in the second half of CBB, before winning anyway. Don’t decide to make Basic Instinct 2, make Basic Instinct. If we get another default white male heterosexual scouse or Geordie winner, sure its not ideal, but the chances are that 5.5 million people will have tuned in, not 2.8 million. No more Tracey’s, Jonty’s, Kara-Louise’s, Carole’s, BB fans would not tune into VH1 to watch these damp squib housemates, and viewing figures halved because they didn’t really want to watch them in BB either.

The ingredients are still all there, and I think BB9 will be a massive success, because I think they will realise that nurturing Brian was the reason why BB8 failed. Handpicking the winner cost millions of viewers, because other attractive housemates were deliberately edited out of the line-up to focus the show on to Brian. If they drop the editorial bias, and pick loads of attractive 24 to 26 year old hm’s, the public will watch. It’s the key, it always has been the key.

Good luck.


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Dude, this is not BBAus or BBUs, loads of attractive 24 to 26 year olds with no diversity is what makes them stand in the shadows of BBUK (at least IMO).
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DJ Sunset having read all of your post, I agree fully with everything you've said. It is the biased nature that is BB's downfall and I do think Brian is partly to blame for this dull series.

We need every housemate for BB9 to have a potential. Its true someone like Billi or Shanessa would never have a chance to win and really are just filler. Its all too engineered.
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DJ Sunset having read all of your post, I agree fully with everything you've said. It is the biased nature that is BB's downfall and I do think Brian is partly to blame for this dull series.

We need every housemate for BB9 to have a potential. Its true someone like Billi or Shanessa would never have a chance to win and really are just filler. Its all too engineered.
Simon Cowell is largely responsible for picking who wins X-Factor each year. They were desperate not to have a 3rd white male winner in a row, and didn't really care if it was a girl or one of the groups. The I'm a Celebrity team gave Matt Willis most of the final night highlights show, depicting him eating crocodile penis and kangaroo anus, and passing a disgusting task with flying colours. Myleene's singing in the shower task was an after thought. The result was that 150 to 1 shot 24 hours earlier Matt, actually managed to win the show.

Billi and Shanessa are classic examples of hm's who are picked because they posed no threat to Brian's chances of winning. Involvement with a female does massively damage a man's chances of winning. Chicken Stu without Michelle would have been a contender, but with her all the women voters looked elsewhere. Preston limped badly finishing behind Maggot and Barrymore, whereas without Chantelle he'd have beaten both of them.

If they put a love interest in for Brian into the HWH it would have damaged his popularity. We saw on here the links to that hispanic girl from Wood Green who mysteriously didn't make it into the house. However, look at Liam - Amy WAS picked, and did make moves on Liam. If he had got involved with her it would damage his chances of winning, and the last thing they wanted was another Hutton winning, just for being white, heterosexual and northern. Hence a love interest for Liam was put in, and a love interest for Brian (before the Amanda thing did spark up) wasn't.

Ironically it was the Amanda thing which did damage Brian, and almost cost him victory.

The HWH was so obviously designed around Brian - no real contenders - a brash ropey stripper, a bald fetish party spanker, kara-louise (enough said), a glamour model with big breasts, and a bisexual rather peculiar but actually quite dull scottish bloke.

The ingredients are all still there to make BB9 absolutely glorious, but if they pre-pick the winner, and put in deliberately ropey housemates to help the winner shine by comparison, they are going to get sub 3m in the ratings again, possibly sub 2 million or evern lower.

BB8 was often sensational, but totally wasted on the appalling housemate line-up. It actually upset me to see so much hard work and effort spoilt. . So much of it was innovative and ground-breaking, but we just. did. not. care. how . tracey. and. co. reacted.

I want to see a genuine race, make it the greatest BB ever, choose 9 or 10 potential winners, and lets get the ratings back to the 5.5m mark at least. Stop the party political broadcasts for Glyn and Brian, we loved BBLB as it was, and it was just shameful how brash the steering towards the non-white winner was.
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BB8 contestants chances of winning/appeal to the public, in an unbiased, clean edit.

Ziggy - high
Liam - high

Chanelle - moderate
Sam/Amanda - moderate

Brian - low
Emily - low

Gerry - very low
Seany - very low

Jonty - zero
Tracey - zero
Carole - zero
Lesley - zero
Jonathan - zero
Shabnam - zero
Charley - zero
Shanessa - zero
David - zero
Laura - zero
Nicky - zero
Kara-Louise - zero
Amy - zero


Compare this with BB3


Alex - very high
Jonny - very high
Spencer - very high

Kate - high

Jade - moderate

PJ - low
Sophie - low
Alison - low
Adele - low
Tim - low

Lynne - zero
Sandy - zero
Sunita - zero
Lee - zero


BB8 was top heavy with dud housemates, deliberately put in to ensure a clear path for Brian.
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Why Big Brother 9 is going to be a smash hit ratings success

There is one reason why BB8 failed in the ratings. It isn’t increased competition from satellite tv programming, or fatigue with the BB format. The reason it failed was Brian Belo.

Every production team on all reality tv shows have agendas. Post-the OFCOM row, and post-Shilpa, the appetite from the BB team for a politically correct non-white winner was a mouthwatering prospect if they could achieve it. Seven previous BB’s have been dominated by white male winners, and with fresh helmanship for the 8th instalment of BB, the desire to set number 8 apart from its 7 forerunners was huge. A black winner was always going to be gold dust in PR terms, and a huge achievement on Rebecca de Young's CV.

BB6 was supposed to be Makosi’s year. Its no accident that she got secret task after secret task. Her first week task was actually to get as many nominations as possible – the viewing public would then actually sympathise with her if she behaved like a total arsch in an attempt to stay in the house, or would like her if she didn’t behave like an arsch (and in that case she would have been up, but would have been very unlikely to have been evicted).

Science failed because he was too ghetto/rapper to appeal to middle England. Makosi failed because she was bonkers. Vanessa failed because she was attached to an intravenous sedative drip. Derek was evicted because more people disliked him than disliked Eugene. Kemal failed despite electorally significant support from the sizeable Turkish cross-dressing community. BB6 was set up for a non-white winner, but as the competition dropped like fireflies, a clash of the titans between Ant “can a plant do a donkey hop?” Hutton, and Eu-dit-da-da-da-dit-gene emerged for an, erm, mouthwatering dream (Elm Street style) finale.

The lesson had to be learnt – to get a black winner you had to have someone to appeal to middle England. Men are more likely to win than women, and Shilpa had been an Asian female winner, so the fantasy BB sticker set would look better with a black male winner in the champions enclosure than a black female. In amongst the thousands who queued up, you were looking for a young black male with coconut properties. Zimbabwean Makosi was from an alien culture to the electorate, we just didn’t understand what on earth was going on (“Who is the real Makosi?”). We never really found out. Another Russell Brand conquest who went on to alternate hotel bedrooms with Faria Alam’s hourly charges? Science and Victor’s ghetto/gangster aspersions both isolated them from mass appeal. For BB8 to get a black winner, someone was needed from within the UK. Textbook was an Essex boy whose ideal hangout is Lakeside instead of d.a. g.h.e.t.t.o.

Big Brother queues of auditionees are dominated by the great unwashed. Auditions held on weekdays when people who can hold a job cannot come are always going to be UB40 heavy. X-Factor you actually (in theory) need a skill to get far. Same with almost any other audition. BB aren’t looking for Shayne Ward’s or Leona’s, they’re looking for Shahbaz’s and biggest-tats-in-uddezfeeld-Lesluh’s. You can make £8m from BB with a big gob and a dislike of minging verrucas. Nearly all auditionees are white. Nearly all are useless, and have nothing distinctive to offer at all.

In amongst the thousands who queued, was there one young black male, with a heart of gold, youthful innocence? Its always ideal to be a bit dim to appeal to the public, who will take to the Helens and Jades far more readily with affection than the cerebrally superior. Even if he wasn’t actually thick, maybe he would realise, maybe he would be advised, to play it dumb. Are there chickens in chickpeas? Is East Angular abroad? Did Sherlock Holmes use Mr Heinztein as an escape goat? Do women poo? At least we found out that, yes, indeed, women do poo. And we also found out that Politics Is Showbusiness For Ugly People. (© Gore Vidal).

Gerry had a perplexed look with Brian on the live feed. “Everyone else was in hiding for two weeks, but you were hiding for four?”. It didn’t add up to Gerry. What was it about Brian that had seen him in hiding for twice the length of time of the others, what was his importance, his significance, what marked out the young black male Essex boy in the immediate post-Shilpa fallout era from the rest of his housemates?

Derek/Kemal/Makosi/Vanessa/Science were all squad players, like having Berbatov/Defoe/Bent/Robbie Keane/Barcham as your striking power. BB8 learned the lesson of BB6, don’t bother with a few good’uns, make sure you sign a Shearer as your strikeforce. Jason Wilcox, Stuart Ripley, Mike Newell weren’t in the class of any of Spuds current crop of forwards, but they had to support Shearer, and they won the league. Brian was the heavyweight – absolutely text book, you could not have asked for a much stronger black contestant to appeal sufficiently to Middle Britain. If Brian couldn’t win BB, honestly, who on earth could? If not Brian, I don’t think it could ever have been done (barring having 24 black housemates).

The paramount aim was a black winner. There was the assumption, wrongly, that ratings would take care of themselves. Amongst the thousands of dreamers, one turned up who cut the mustard, with none of the ghetto, none of the rapping, an Essex boy with a fetish for Hollyoaks. If his mum was proud of him, maybe we could all be too.

I’ve put up on two other posts on here that BB8 was like Basic Instinct 2. White males, preferably with a regional vote (ideally scouse or Geordie) will win most reality tv shows. Leona had chasmically more talent than the incredibly limited Ray Quinn, but it took a Herculean effort to get her over the line against a default white male scouse pretty boy. Constant gushing comments, “best reality tv performance ever”, huge help with the draws towards the end of the shows, helpful vt’s, damaging comments given to her rivals (in particular nikitta), the help for Leona was in a similar vein to the transparent BBLB rabid support for Brian. Sharon Stone was an international sex siren for Basic Instinct, 16 years later she was a post-menopausal prune. Without Michael Douglas, Stone was the star of the show, the whole film was the Sharon Stone project. A once stunning 32 year old will look very plain at 48 against even modest-looking present day 32 year-olds. The solution was to pack the cast with a mix of even more ancient women (Charlotte Rampling) or unattractive women, and a male lead more Jimmy Nail than James Dean (David Morrissey).

Brian was the reason why so many electorally unfriendly housemates were chosen. Its incredibly difficult for a non-white contestant to have mass appeal, but not only do they have to have mass appeal, you CANNOT put them in with a Ray Quinn (young default scouser), a Steve Brookstein (mass housewife appeal, struggling for a better life for himself and his girlfriend), a Matt Willis, a Phil Tufnell, a Joe Pasquale, a Mark Owen, a Jack Dee. Anyone Caucasian heterosexual and male will appeal to the housewives, the grannies, the voting electorate. You can’t even have a Brian Dowling – every box ticked bar the heterosexual one, so you have to put in a limp Gerry as BB8’s pink housemate.

Every housemate was picked with Brian in mind. The Carole’s, Tracey’s, Laura’s, Nicky’s, Billi’s, none of them were ever going to have mass appeal. Even Charley was handled with sensitivity, saved from eviction despite receiving enough nominations to be up through “punishment” for discussing nominations. Each week she magically escaped somehow, to disbelief, even when she had enough nominations to be up, and when she couldn’t avoid being nominated, the “fake” eviction took place. There was only one line she could cross, one line where she would become surplus to requirements, and that line was if she ever kicked off with Brian. Supporting Emily over the ****** incident, then provoking Brian on the night she was dressed as a clown, she crossed the line, and was up and out at the next time of asking.

The dream for BB8 was the first ever black winner, complemented by the big big big sizzling summer showmance. Step forward Brian, then Chanelle, then Elimidate’s finest Zach Lig-man. Then sprinkle in a supporting cast without any other potential winners. The white male heterosexual contestants restricted to just 2 out of a cast of 24, with both Liam and Ziggy brutalised in the edit. Every negative thing Liam said was shown, his focussed, concise dignified destruction of Charley, on a par with anything Craig threw at Nasty Nick, received a few seconds of cursory footage in the highlights. Ziggy – “every year they make someone out to look like a d***, and this year its me”. Yep. For Brian to win, you could not put in any potential winners to rival him. In the end his closest challenge came from the non-descript pairing of the twins, who did almost nothing in the entire time in the house. If Brian had been caucasian, and the twins afro-caribbean, would it have been such a close battle in the final week? You might think that, I could not possibly comment.

There is a reason why Sky Sports News has presenters like Georgie Thompson, Alex Quinn, Millie Clode, Vicky Gomarsall, et al. Yes it’s the news in the erm sports world, but if you put BB8 Tracey as the main presenter, half the viewers would switch off.

Big Brother is a massive franchise. But you cannot avoid the golden rules. A show with a cast who looked like Georgie, Alex, Millie, Vicky et al will be infinitely more attractive to viewers than a show with Tracey, Carole, Shanessa and Kara-Louise. The BB production team forgot to give the public what they want, and a lot of what the public want is extremely good-looking people. If BB’s 1 to 7 had never happened, the importance of a black winner to complement the set would never have been anything like as weighty. Instead of being petrified of putting in a group of watchable, good-looking 20somethings, who might actually prove to be popular (and give you a repeat of BB3’s Kate v Jonny v Alex v Jade in the BB8 final), only Liam and Ziggy made it through, and both received lacerating edits.

The monkey is off BB’s back now. It has been done. Project Brian reached fruition, in a final fortnight whimper, voted on by the 2.8 million viewers left. Brian is a fantastic guy, but he was never short of grey matter, and was a credit to himself and the show. The problem was never Brian, it was the other 23 around him, selected to nurture him. That was the reason BB8 flopped. BB doesn’t live in its own bubble, if Bravo or VH1 launched a reality tv series starring Carole, Jonty, Tracey and Kara-Louise, would they have got any viewers at all? No.

In the tea leaves, BB isn’t dead, its slumbering. The production was often slick this year, but its totally wasted giving a silk purse of high production levels to the sow’s ear of housemates. We just didn’t care how Tracey or Carole reacted.

The key to BB9 getting back the 5.5 million viewers, which I think it can (and will) do, is to decide to forget every single previous series of BB. Pack it full of potential winners, people we care about. Make BBLB a level playing field, we don’t really want a “here’s a funny clip of Brian” section each show. Handle housemates with sensitivity, we can see past the one dimensional characters presented to us. That should have been obvious with Aisleyne’s popularity, which wildly outstripped the brutal edits she received, reminiscent of Bez’s invisibility in the second half of CBB, before winning anyway. Don’t decide to make Basic Instinct 2, make Basic Instinct. If we get another default white male heterosexual scouse or Geordie winner, sure its not ideal, but the chances are that 5.5 million people will have tuned in, not 2.8 million. No more Tracey’s, Jonty’s, Kara-Louise’s, Carole’s, BB fans would not tune into VH1 to watch these damp squib housemates, and viewing figures halved because they didn’t really want to watch them in BB either.

The ingredients are still all there, and I think BB9 will be a massive success, because I think they will realise that nurturing Brian was the reason why BB8 failed. Handpicking the winner cost millions of viewers, because other attractive housemates were deliberately edited out of the line-up to focus the show on to Brian. If they drop the editorial bias, and pick loads of attractive 24 to 26 year old hm’s, the public will watch. It’s the key, it always has been the key.

Good luck.


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Do you still feel BB9 will be a smash it ratings success?
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Great read as ever DJ, and I agree with what you say.
If we are going to have dud housemates, at least make them easy on the eyes...if a housemate doesnt have a personality, then looks will make up for it to the casual viewer.
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Great read as ever DJ, and I agree with what you say.
If we are going to have dud housemates, at least make them easy on the eyes...if a housemate doesnt have a personality, then looks will make up for it to the casual viewer.
lol, any beauties they put in should also have brains.
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lol, any beauties they put in should also have brains.
in an ideal world yes, but if they are going to have rubbish filler housemates, at least make em easy on the eye
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Do you still feel BB9 will be a smash it ratings success?
if they put in a large number of housemates that they are happy with any of them winning then yes. if they have narrowed it down to one pre-determined winner (brian bb8) and one reserve (chanelle bb8) then it will fail.

i've said it before, but you looked at the rich side/poor side, and as a viewer, you really gave a s*** about alex, kate and jonny all feelling totally miserable or on highs. the fact is nobody gives a s*** what carole, kara, jonty, billi, nicky (bb8) think or feel. harsh, but that's tv, and which series got the ratings?

when the panel are picking the hm's, they should go for the "do we give a **** about this person" test. not the "we need one asian, one afro-carribbean, one scottish, one irish, one homosexual, one,..." etcetera routine. if there are three excellent asian girls, then stick them all in. if there are no good asian girls, and the best one is another nicky bb8, then don't think you have to put that girl in because she's the best of a bad bunch, just don't pick her at all.

most reality tv contests are going to be win by david sneddon's/leon jackson's/steve brookstein's/shayne ward's/mark owen's/anthony hutton's/craig phillips's etcetera. the viewing public LIKE good-looking white male housemates, more than they like housemates who aren't.

if they gerrymander the result and make bb9 a bblb-dermot-style ramp-fest for chosen housemates, then they won't get the ratings, because there is no doubt that the chosen housemates won't be goodlooking young white males.

the 'perfect' bb9 winner is a 22/23 year old white welsh female, probably a brunette. if they let go of the determination to get chosen ones over the line (chantelle/brian belo) then bb9 will be a big hit. no idea if any of the production team would agree with me or not, but its up to them, and there's no guarantee i'm right, but i think i probably am.
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Old 21-03-2008, 02:54
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the one thing that would be a disaster would be this

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/30122

BB SHOCK PLAN WILL SAVE SHOW

"Amazing twist to make new series most outrageous EVER


BIG Brother bosses have come up with a bizarre plan to save the show.

In a bid to make this summer’s BB9 the wackiest yet, they are turning to some unexpected faces from the show’s past.

Bosses plan to use Golden Ticket winners from 2006 in this year’s show after weeks of dull auditions.

Applicants for this summer’s series have been so disappointing that desperate producers have had to beg the BB7 wannabes to reapply.

One ticket holder said: “They were beating down my door. I couldn’t believe it.”

Golden Tickets were given away in special packs of KitKats two years ago in a bid to find a random member of the public to enter the house.

The twist saw housewife Susie Verrico, 44, selected in a live lottery.

Now, nearly two years later, several of the other 34 ticket holders have been approached by producers.

They were beating down my door. I couldn’t believe it One ticket holder


A BB source said: “It’s a sign of how bad it’s got.

“There was a list of people drawn up at the end of the Golden Ticket promotion that producers put to one side for a rainy day.

“People suspected they would be used in BB8 – but that was too soon.

“But this year the auditions were the quietest we can remember so the list has come back into play.

“It’s a desperate last throw of the dice.

“This summer’s series has to be good and the bosses couldn’t risk only using the people who applied.”

Some Golden Ticket hopefuls were even contacted before the auditions started so producers could find candidates to “spark off them”, the source said.

He added: “For instance, if they had in mind someone who hates fat, smelly people, bosses would try to find the fattest, smelliest applicant to go in alongside them.”

Yesterday one Golden Ticket holder revealed: “They contacted me out of the blue before Christmas.

“I went down and had an interview – I still don’t know if I’ve been selected or not.

“It came as a shock to be approached. I always thought the housemates had to apply themselves.”

Show sources said several Golden Ticket holders have already made it onto the shortlist.

The 24 men and 11 women who found Golden Tickets included 26-year-old model Danielle James, from Liverpool, and professional gambler Ed Murray, 30, from London. BB9 has been hit by tiny turnouts at auditions after E4’s Big Brother: Celebrity Hijack flopped.

Last month we told how only 20 people queued for an audition in Newcastle and interviews in Scotland were branded “the quietest ever”.

This is not the first time former applicants have been used to pep up the show.

Chantelle Houghton, 24, won her place in Celebrity Big Brother after applying for BB6 while 27-year-old Sezer Yurtseven and Imogen Thomas, 25, had appeared as guinea pigs for previous series before they were selected for BB7.

Last night a BB spokeswoman said: “Big Brother is always about looking forward and getting the best contestants for the show.”




they definitely should NOT do this. that gambler sounds like a right dodgy sort, and shouldn't be let anywhere near the house.
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Old 21-03-2008, 06:17
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the one thing that would be a disaster would be this

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/30122

BB SHOCK PLAN WILL SAVE SHOW

"Amazing twist to make new series most outrageous EVER


BIG Brother bosses have come up with a bizarre plan to save the show.

In a bid to make this summer’s BB9 the wackiest yet, they are turning to some unexpected faces from the show’s past.

Bosses plan to use Golden Ticket winners from 2006 in this year’s show after weeks of dull auditions.

Applicants for this summer’s series have been so disappointing that desperate producers have had to beg the BB7 wannabes to reapply.

One ticket holder said: “They were beating down my door. I couldn’t believe it.”

Golden Tickets were given away in special packs of KitKats two years ago in a bid to find a random member of the public to enter the house.

The twist saw housewife Susie Verrico, 44, selected in a live lottery.

Now, nearly two years later, several of the other 34 ticket holders have been approached by producers.

They were beating down my door. I couldn’t believe it One ticket holder


A BB source said: “It’s a sign of how bad it’s got.

“There was a list of people drawn up at the end of the Golden Ticket promotion that producers put to one side for a rainy day.

“People suspected they would be used in BB8 – but that was too soon.

“But this year the auditions were the quietest we can remember so the list has come back into play.

“It’s a desperate last throw of the dice.

“This summer’s series has to be good and the bosses couldn’t risk only using the people who applied.”

Some Golden Ticket hopefuls were even contacted before the auditions started so producers could find candidates to “spark off them”, the source said.

He added: “For instance, if they had in mind someone who hates fat, smelly people, bosses would try to find the fattest, smelliest applicant to go in alongside them.”

Yesterday one Golden Ticket holder revealed: “They contacted me out of the blue before Christmas.

“I went down and had an interview – I still don’t know if I’ve been selected or not.

“It came as a shock to be approached. I always thought the housemates had to apply themselves.”

Show sources said several Golden Ticket holders have already made it onto the shortlist.

The 24 men and 11 women who found Golden Tickets included 26-year-old model Danielle James, from Liverpool, and professional gambler Ed Murray, 30, from London. BB9 has been hit by tiny turnouts at auditions after E4’s Big Brother: Celebrity Hijack flopped.

Last month we told how only 20 people queued for an audition in Newcastle and interviews in Scotland were branded “the quietest ever”.

This is not the first time former applicants have been used to pep up the show.

Chantelle Houghton, 24, won her place in Celebrity Big Brother after applying for BB6 while 27-year-old Sezer Yurtseven and Imogen Thomas, 25, had appeared as guinea pigs for previous series before they were selected for BB7.

Last night a BB spokeswoman said: “Big Brother is always about looking forward and getting the best contestants for the show.”




they definitely should NOT do this. that gambler sounds like a right dodgy sort, and shouldn't be let anywhere near the house.
Heehee!!
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Old 21-03-2008, 09:42
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http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/30122

BB SHOCK PLAN WILL SAVE SHOW

"Amazing twist to make new series most outrageous EVER


BIG Brother bosses have come up with a bizarre plan to save the show.

In a bid to make this summer’s BB9 the wackiest yet, they are turning to some unexpected faces from the show’s past.

Bosses plan to use Golden Ticket winners from 2006 in this year’s show after weeks of dull auditions.

Applicants for this summer’s series have been so disappointing that desperate producers have had to beg the BB7 wannabes to reapply.

One ticket holder said: “They were beating down my door. I couldn’t believe it.”

Golden Tickets were given away in special packs of KitKats two years ago in a bid to find a random member of the public to enter the house.

The twist saw housewife Susie Verrico, 44, selected in a live lottery.

Now, nearly two years later, several of the other 34 ticket holders have been approached by producers.

They were beating down my door. I couldn’t believe it One ticket holder


A BB source said: “It’s a sign of how bad it’s got.

“There was a list of people drawn up at the end of the Golden Ticket promotion that producers put to one side for a rainy day.

“People suspected they would be used in BB8 – but that was too soon.

“But this year the auditions were the quietest we can remember so the list has come back into play.

“It’s a desperate last throw of the dice.

“This summer’s series has to be good and the bosses couldn’t risk only using the people who applied.”

Some Golden Ticket hopefuls were even contacted before the auditions started so producers could find candidates to “spark off them”, the source said.

He added: “For instance, if they had in mind someone who hates fat, smelly people, bosses would try to find the fattest, smelliest applicant to go in alongside them.”

Yesterday one Golden Ticket holder revealed: “They contacted me out of the blue before Christmas.

“I went down and had an interview – I still don’t know if I’ve been selected or not.

“It came as a shock to be approached. I always thought the housemates had to apply themselves.”

Show sources said several Golden Ticket holders have already made it onto the shortlist.

The 24 men and 11 women who found Golden Tickets included 26-year-old model Danielle James, from Liverpool, and professional gambler Ed Murray, 30, from London. BB9 has been hit by tiny turnouts at auditions after E4’s Big Brother: Celebrity Hijack flopped.

Last month we told how only 20 people queued for an audition in Newcastle and interviews in Scotland were branded “the quietest ever”.

This is not the first time former applicants have been used to pep up the show.

Chantelle Houghton, 24, won her place in Celebrity Big Brother after applying for BB6 while 27-year-old Sezer Yurtseven and Imogen Thomas, 25, had appeared as guinea pigs for previous series before they were selected for BB7.

Last night a BB spokeswoman said: “Big Brother is always about looking forward and getting the best contestants for the show.”




they definitely should NOT do this. that gambler sounds like a right dodgy sort, and shouldn't be let anywhere near the house.
It would indeed be quite poo

But that's an article from the Daily Star. Enough said right there
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The reason it failed is not because of Brian. Brian was one of the most entertaining in there last year. A worthy winner? Probably not.

IMO, the reason it failed was because of the all female launch. Ratings only usually shed 1-2m from the first night, but ratings for BB8 halved overnight and they never recovered until Emily's ejection, fake week and Charley's eviction. 4 shows out of 93 days got over 4m.

It was destined to be a flop from the word go, even from when the opening credits rolled because they too were awful to match the series.

Then the series got a bit boring. All women being drip fed men. People don't like new entries at the best of times, let alone when the launch night lasts 21 days.

In addition to this, production was sloppy and the housemates were rubbish with the exception of about 5. All of the housemates were too aware of Big Brother.

For BB9, I feel they have to go back to controversy. Its what they do best. With one of the producers taking on board our comments on the C4 Forums, I think BB9 is going to be a good surprise and remind us all why we love Big Brother!
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